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Hi all, remember me from last fall? Been away for professional and personal reasons - but back trying to resolve my issue.

 

Issue: When viewing a completed project via DVD player - motion of objects seem to "ghost" or "trail" behind leading edge of object. Like the image smears across the screen. It's not that the camera moved. When viewing the raw tape (camcorder plugged directly into TV or record camcorder directly to VHS then view VHS) - all is crystal clear - as I would expect.

 

I've been following what you all have recommended in the past - spyware/virus check, updated firmware, disconnect from 'net, defrag, use Videowave to build project, use DVD Builder to burn to ISO, then Disk Copy to final DVD (using DVD-RW till this is sorted out). Checked DMA settings.

 

Camcorder - Sony Handycam Digital 8 DCR-TRV320 NTSC

Disks - FujiFilm DVD-RW or Sony DVD-R 1x-8x

Computer - Sony VIAO Pentium 4 CPU 2.66 GHZ, 512 MB RAM PCV-RZ24G

Drive Sony DVD RW DW-U12A

Product EMC 7.1.1.189 ENU

 

I'm still having the issue.

 

I have successfully built projects in the past (prior to maybe Aug '05) and all was well. Since then, I've noticed two things: 1) when burning an "asterick" appears next to the Burn Header status. FOr my successful projects that asterik never appears during the burn process. and 2.) When I render via Videowave clips that were Captured through EMC 7 the first 3-4 seconds of the clip are displayed in that rendering window, then reverts to a gray screen with MPG in the lower corner. When I rendered a clip NOT captured with EMC 7 the "rendering window" shows the entire clip (no gray screen) AND no asterik.....

 

What's the asterick mean? and am I barking up the wrong tree? Is my issue derived from Capture and not DVD Builder Burning/encoding???????

 

About the only thing I haven't done is to remove all software from my system, re-install the factory software/drivers, etc. then re-install and update.............

 

Apologies if you remember my fall posts and need to reiterate yourselves...seems these boards have changed since then and I can't find my original thread.

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Note to all....I've been capturing/editing/burning like a mad man since my last post - using all the suggestions you fine folks have supplied.

 

To date - knock on wood - all projects have been satisfactory! I do note that some movement "shimmers" but after further examination - heck, when the subject runs by the camera field, you should expect some distortion!

 

8 projects complete - 10 more to go before I'm caught up with the last year's worth of family adventures....then off to move my VHS family adventures to DVD (actually have some 8mm from when I was a kid to work on!)

 

For all the "newbies" out there - keep reading the boards even though your issue is solved or if you have no issue.

 

I've been finding little gems of information all over the place, that have further advanced the quality/look/feel/appeal/skill level of my projects.

 

Again-thanks to all

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Your absolutely right Momuffin, I have learned more from others questions and answers then I have from my own. I have lerned so many tricks of the trade, so to speak. Glad to hear someone post this same thought. :):huh::D:D

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I don't think I can help you here.

Just to let you know the old boards are gone. A new and improved board have replaced the old boards. Unfortunately, the old information on the old boards are gone, as well. I do understand that sometimes information from the old boards do come up in a google search

 

I hope you can find a solution to your problem.

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Hi all, remember me from last fall? Been away for professional and personal reasons - but back trying to resolve my issue.

 

Issue: When viewing a completed project via DVD player - motion of objects seem to "ghost" or "trail" behind leading edge of object. Like the image smears across the screen. It's not that the camera moved. When viewing the raw tape (camcorder plugged directly into TV or record camcorder directly to VHS then view VHS) - all is crystal clear - as I would expect.

 

I've been following what you all have recommended in the past - spyware/virus check, updated firmware, disconnect from 'net, defrag, use Videowave to build project, use DVD Builder to burn to ISO, then Disk Copy to final DVD (using DVD-RW till this is sorted out). Checked DMA settings.

 

Camcorder - Sony Handycam Digital 8 DCR-TRV320 NTSC

Disks - FujiFilm DVD-RW or Sony DVD-R 1x-8x

Computer - Sony VIAO Pentium 4 CPU 2.66 GHZ, 512 MB RAM PCV-RZ24G

Drive Sony DVD RW DW-U12A

Product EMC 7.1.1.189 ENU

 

I'm still having the issue.

 

I have successfully built projects in the past (prior to maybe Aug '05) and all was well. Since then, I've noticed two things: 1) when burning an "asterick" appears next to the Burn Header status. FOr my successful projects that asterik never appears during the burn process. and 2.) When I render via Videowave clips that were Captured through EMC 7 the first 3-4 seconds of the clip are displayed in that rendering window, then reverts to a gray screen with MPG in the lower corner. When I rendered a clip NOT captured with EMC 7 the "rendering window" shows the entire clip (no gray screen) AND no asterik.....

 

What's the asterick mean? and am I barking up the wrong tree? Is my issue derived from Capture and not DVD Builder Burning/encoding???????

 

About the only thing I haven't done is to remove all software from my system, re-install the factory software/drivers, etc. then re-install and update.............

 

Apologies if you remember my fall posts and need to reiterate yourselves...seems these boards have changed since then and I can't find my original thread.

 

motion of objects seem to "ghost" or "trail" behind leading edge of object.

 

Does it appear this way on both the computer and the TV? I get the same effect when viewed on my computer with an LCD monitor, but it looks OK on the TV. From what I have read, some LCD monitors (and LCD TVs) have trouble displaying fast motion.

 

When I render via Videowave clips that were Captured through EMC 7 the first 3-4 seconds of the clip are displayed in that rendering window, then reverts to a gray screen with MPG in the lower corner.

 

The grey screen means the clip is already DVD compliant and does not need re-rendered. If you noticed, the indicated time clicked by much faster than when the video is diplayed. That grey screen is by design and nothing is wrong.

 

an "asterick" appears next to the Burn Header status.

 

I remember discussions in the old forums about the *, but cannot remember what it indicated. Maybe someone else will post with that information.

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Sony has no direct relation to Roxio. Roxio is a division of Sonic. Big difference.

 

 

Thanks again Larry....I did capture in DV format and burned to DVD - just haven't viewed it yet...need to catch up on the work I blew off today!

 

One additional question - When rendering "Output to: Purpose" I selected DV Output - as I read the resulting files remained as DV-AVI....

 

I had been using DV Authoring - resulting files as MPEG-2.

 

Understanding the eventual ISO file will be MPEG-2, does my above selection really matter at this point? I'm editing in VideoWave with the captured files as DV-AVI. These final rendered files are just brought into DVD Builder where menus and titles, music, background pics are added...no edit to the actual rendered files.

 

Would it then be best to Output to DVD Authoring or still best as DV Output? I'm after the best possible files brought into DVD Builder.

 

Thanks

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You don't have to output the video at all. As long as you keep your original files on the hard drive, all you have to do is hit DVD and DVD Builder will open with your movie on a menu (which you can change)

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You don't have to output the video at all. As long as you keep your original files on the hard drive, all you have to do is hit DVD and DVD Builder will open with your movie on a menu (which you can change)

 

 

So, no need to go through the rendering process? Just save the Production?

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So, no need to go through the rendering process? Just save the Production?

 

Yup. Just don't delete any of the files that you used in the production until you've burned the DVD. DVD Builder will render your productions before it burns a DVD or 'image file.'

 

Rendering using File\ Output production to... is good if you've got large files that you've cut down to small ones and aren't going to use the new movies til later. For example, you've got a one hour video that you're only using 10 minutes of and you're running out of hard disk space. Then I'd render it for DVD Authoring\ Best if you're not going to want to edit it again. If you want to edit it further, output it as DV AVI.

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motion of objects seem to "ghost" or "trail" behind leading edge of object.

 

Does it appear this way on both the computer and the TV? I get the same effect when viewed on my computer with an LCD monitor, but it looks OK on the TV. From what I have read, some LCD monitors (and LCD TVs) have trouble displaying fast motion.

 

When I render via Videowave clips that were Captured through EMC 7 the first 3-4 seconds of the clip are displayed in that rendering window, then reverts to a gray screen with MPG in the lower corner.

 

The grey screen means the clip is already DVD compliant and does not need re-rendered. If you noticed, the indicated time clicked by much faster than when the video is diplayed. That grey screen is by design and nothing is wrong.

 

an "asterick" appears next to the Burn Header status.

 

I remember discussions in the old forums about the *, but cannot remember what it indicated. Maybe someone else will post with that information.

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an "asterick" appears next to the Burn Header status.

 

I remember discussions in the old forums about the *, but cannot remember what it indicated. Maybe someone else will post with that information.

The * (asterick) in the header indicates that dvd builder is not re-encoding the video file.

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Yup. Just don't delete any of the files that you used in the production until you've burned the DVD. DVD Builder will render your productions before it burns a DVD or 'image file.'

 

Rendering using File\ Output production to... is good if you've got large files that you've cut down to small ones and aren't going to use the new movies til later. For example, you've got a one hour video that you're only using 10 minutes of and you're running out of hard disk space. Then I'd render it for DVD Authoring\ Best if you're not going to want to edit it again. If you want to edit it further, output it as DV AVI.

 

 

Thanks - great education picked up on these boards!

 

Once I view my recent attempt (fingers crossed) and all works well (double fingers crossed) I'll try it...I now want to add an Intro to my projects (after reading some other posts).

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motion of objects seem to "ghost" or "trail" behind leading edge of object.

 

Does it appear this way on both the computer and the TV? I get the same effect when viewed on my computer with an LCD monitor, but it looks OK on the TV. From what I have read, some LCD monitors (and LCD TVs) have trouble displaying fast motion.

 

When I render via Videowave clips that were Captured through EMC 7 the first 3-4 seconds of the clip are displayed in that rendering window, then reverts to a gray screen with MPG in the lower corner.

 

The grey screen means the clip is already DVD compliant and does not need re-rendered. If you noticed, the indicated time clicked by much faster than when the video is diplayed. That grey screen is by design and nothing is wrong.

 

an "asterick" appears next to the Burn Header status.

 

I remember discussions in the old forums about the *, but cannot remember what it indicated. Maybe someone else will post with that information.

 

 

 

Just on the TV - an "older" (purchased about 7 years ago) CRT. Been unsatisfied with any attempt to view on the computer....usually the preview screens, etc are too small for me to notice and when I play the DVD with my computer DVD player, again, small screen can't really notice and when I revert to full screen, it's too grainy anyway.

 

In fact some burns won't display properly on my computer...but work fine on the TV.

 

Tonight I played with a "known" affending clip and a DVD-RW - after all the prep tasks I captured as DV format NOT MPEG, created in VW the went straight to DVD Builder - no asterick during the burn steps - burn steps took longer. DVD would not play on DVD player (Samsung - progressive scan, upconverter). Test 2 capture was same, created in VW, rendered, opened DVD Builder, created, burned - resulting DVD would play on the DVD player but on computer lower 2/3 of screen was a jumble of lines, colors, etc...top 1/3 was clear as day.

 

Appeared to NOT have my troubling effect...fingers crossed, so....

 

Tomorrow will try creating my whole project, capturing as DV not MPEG.......which is better to capture to? And/or which is better to output to? DV or MPEG???

 

Thanks for the education.

 

The * (asterick) in the header indicates that dvd builder is not re-encoding the video file.

 

 

Thanks Larry - that rings a bell from last fall....and if I also remember not re-encoding is not a bad thing. Correct?

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Just on the TV - an "older" (purchased about 7 years ago) CRT. Been unsatisfied with any attempt to view on the computer....usually the preview screens, etc are too small for me to notice and when I play the DVD with my computer DVD player, again, small screen can't really notice and when I revert to full screen, it's too grainy anyway.

 

In fact some burns won't display properly on my computer...but work fine on the TV.

 

Tonight I played with a "known" affending clip and a DVD-RW - after all the prep tasks I captured as DV format NOT MPEG, created in VW the went straight to DVD Builder - no asterick during the burn steps - burn steps took longer. DVD would not play on DVD player (Samsung - progressive scan, upconverter). Test 2 capture was same, created in VW, rendered, opened DVD Builder, created, burned - resulting DVD would play on the DVD player but on computer lower 2/3 of screen was a jumble of lines, colors, etc...top 1/3 was clear as day.

 

Appeared to NOT have my troubling effect...fingers crossed, so....

 

Tomorrow will try creating my whole project, capturing as DV not MPEG.......which is better to capture to? And/or which is better to output to? DV or MPEG???

 

Thanks for the education.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Larry - that rings a bell from last fall....and if I also remember not re-encoding is not a bad thing. Correct?

It all depends. In the end, the video has to end up as mpeg to meet the standards for a DVD.

 

So, basically, if you are going to do any editing of captured video, it's best to capture as DV if you can, as that is a non-compressed format, so it has the best quality. Then when it is burned to dvd using dvd builder, it is re-encoded to mpeg, which is a compressed format and has some loss to it, to meet the dvd standard.

 

 

 

If you are not going to do any editing, then capturing as mpeg is usually ok to do, as it's not going to get re-encoded when burned to a dvd, so there would be no additional quality loss from it's original capture quality.

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Hey it seems like you use sony a lot :) ! It's a great company... I never had a problem with any of their stuff. Isn't roxio in some wild way a trademark of sony? Or a trademark of a division of sony? I don't know... but it would be nice to know....

Sony has no direct relation to Roxio. Roxio is a division of Sonic. Big difference.

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