Problems with old OpenDVD dvd

[durdenwasright]

Hey im sorry this is the wrong area to post this but i couldn't find any section that pertained to OpenDVD dvds. A few years ago my buddy burned a short film onto a OpenDVD dvd and I really want to do two things.

 

1. Burn the film onto another dvd

 

2. Transfer it to a form that I can upload onto youtube

 

I can't figure out how to watch it on anything but my dvd player. I tried transferring all the files onto my computer and then burning that onto a cd and it didn't work. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Thanks

[james_hardin]

Never seen an OpenDVD...

 

Assuming there is a VIDEO_TS folder with xxxx.vob files in there, all you would need to do is copy the vob's to your HD and rename them mpg.

 

Is that something you have tried?

[The Webfairy]

Never seen an OpenDVD...

 

Assuming there is a VIDEO_TS folder with xxxx.vob files in there, all you would need to do is copy the vob's to your HD and rename them mpg.

 

Is that something you have tried?

 

The OpenDVD folder is for an amazing application I'm trying to figure out how to use.

http://patches.sonic.com/pdf/white-papers/...per_9_13-02.pdf

Dynamic DVD, almost half way down the page

http://digitalcontentproducer.com/integrat...worlds_collide/

 

I bought RealPlayer 11 Beta that has the amazing ability to download Youtube videos and burn them to DVD.

It uses this OpenDVD system.

MYDVD is supposed to be a compatible program for opening the DVD's menu for editing.

It is a great feature to have the source files for the menu right there on the disk.

Windows Media Center Edition burns DVDs with an OPENDVD folder as well.

 

I love the disks I've created with RealPlayer 11 Beta except the font is too big on the buttons.

With the OpenDVD system I can correct this, once I figure out how to use the feature.

 

 

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/permalink...read.aspx#36763

Dondi, I am burning the DVD from within the media center environment, not transferring a dvr-ms file to the DVD.

 

But then when I couldn't overwrite an existing program from within the media center environment, I figured I would try to go to Windows Explorer and see if there were files I could delete and make the DVD "clean" for the media center to use again. That's when I got the "files are read only" and cannot be deleted message.

 

There are two folders on the DVD. One is named "OpenDVD" and the other is named "Video_TS".

 

There are three files in the OpenDVD folder: Clickme.htm, OpenDVD.pvm, and Untitled.dvd.

 

There are eight files in the Video_TS folder: Video_TS.BUP, Video_TS.IFO, Video_TS.VOB, VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_0.IFO,VTS_01_0.VOB,VTS_01_1.VOB,VTS_01_2.VOB

 

None of these folders or files can be deleted using Windows Explorer. And the disc cannot be overwritten in the media center.

 

NOW GET THIS> MAYBE THIS IS A CLUE. I opened the "clickme.htm" file and here's what it said:

 

"This OpenDVD-enabled DVD was created using Symphony with AuthorScript® by Sonic Solutions. OpenDVD-compliant DVDs (http://www.opendvd.com/) include unique technology that provides exceptional value.

 

With OpenDVD, you can revise the content at any time, re-edit video, and replace any element -- video, menus, buttons, text or navigation -- quickly and easily with something new, with the minimal amount of copying of content between your hard disk and the DVD. Or archive your DVD projects as a DVD with all of the content you need in a single, convenient location.

 

OpenDVD DVDs contain all the information you need to open and re-author this title with a licensed OpenDVD-compatible authoring application. They are compatible with the broadest range of set-top and PC-based DVD-Video players, so you can view the content almost anywhere you can play a DVD.

 

© Copyright 2005 Sonic Solutions.

[mikiem]

To be perfectly honest I'd suggest just re-authoring the DVD... Using EMC9's Copy you can get the title video to your hard drive as an mpg file that you can import into MyDVD, and there you can do whatever you'd like (re) creating the menu. You can also use the Copy program I believe, or Videowave to re-encode your video to one of the formats YouTube accepts. The YouTube site has recommendations on size and format, plus there are several videos uploaded giving tips on what formats work better than others.

 

If you decide to go a different route... The VIDEO_TS folder is what a DVD player looks for... Inside the folder the "Video_TS.IFO" file contains directions for any DVD player regarding the entire DVD. "Video_TS.VOB" contains menu video. "VTS_01_0.IFO" holds player directions for the title set. "VTS_01_0.VOB" holds menu video. "VTS_01_1.VOB,VTS_01_2.VOB" hold title video. The Open DVD folder has whatever PC content.

[Webfairy]

If you decide to go a different route... The VIDEO_TS folder is what a DVD player looks for... Inside the folder the "Video_TS.IFO" file contains directions for any DVD player regarding the entire DVD. "Video_TS.VOB" contains menu video. "VTS_01_0.IFO" holds player directions for the title set. "VTS_01_0.VOB" holds menu video. "VTS_01_1.VOB,VTS_01_2.VOB" hold title video. The Open DVD folder has whatever PC content.

 

OPENDVD is a standard.

IT has nothing to do with the video.ts file.

IT has it's own directory that has all the project files used to generate the dvd.

 

It was a brilliant system, apparently dumped before it could reach it's prime.

There does not appear to be OPENDVD support in MYDVD 9.

This is a shame.

It looks like I am going to have to upgrade to MYDVD 4.

http://www.netcomdirect.com/opsomyvforwi.html

 

OpenDVD support -- MyDVD version 4 creates OpenDVD-compliant discs, DVD titles which can be opened, changed and edited, making it possible to directly capture video to DVD, watch the DVD on a TV or PC, and then put the disc back into a DVD writer to add more video clips, rename chapters, change menu graphics, or delete unwanted scenes.

Edit-on-DVD -- Sonic MyDVD uses unique technology that allows changes made to OpenDVD-compliant discs to be virtually instantaneous without having to reload the original content to hard disc.

 

If I can spend 5 minutes tweaking an already finished disk, or spend 2 hours reauthoring the thing, I know which I choose.

 

OpenDVD seens to be a feature ahead of it's time.

I guess it came at a time the different companies were merging.

That an OPENDVD editable folder exists on every disk burned with Windows XP Media Center Edition.

And now it's offered on the new Realplayer 11 Pro, but a current application that supports OPENDVD in the Sonic product line appears to be DVDit, and that one's too expensive and full featured when I just want to tweak a font size.

 

Maybe RealPlayer will come out with their own OPENDVD compliant application.

This was a fabulous feature that came too early. Being able to keep the album art and the file menu source file right there on the dvd itself is such a great idea I'm surprised it got lost or buried.

Lots of people have these files on their disks, but they don't know what they are or mean. At first when I noticed it, I was a bit alarmed, but then I read through and if this system actually did what it said it did it would be a blessing to my life.

 

If I can tweak instead of having to reauthor I can think of lots of things to do with the saved time.

 

I hope someone with Roxio reads this and brings back OPENDVD support so that I don't have to upgrade to MYDVD 4/ If your company grabs a clue and makes a little companion to RealPlayer 11 to tweak the menus with OPENDVD compliant MYDVD4, they ought to pay me for doing the research for a great new product: RealPlayer/Microsoft Media Center OpenDVD compliant add on for tweaking dvd menus that is really a freshly rebranded MYDVD4.

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20030807014027/...ic.com/opendvd/

The Power to Create Dynamic DVDs

 

The new OpenDVD specification defines a standard for creating DVD titles that include all of the necessary information that allows them to be re-edited, revised, and changed over time. It does so by including the project and navigation information, and necessary menu graphics, backgrounds, button art and more, in a special file on the DVD in the DVD-ROM zone. The term refers either to an attribute of the finished disc, or to a compatibility attribute of an application.

 

With OpenDVD™ everything you need is on your disc!

- Archive your original high resolution digital photos while authoring your DVDs

- Archive your movies while authoring your DVDs

 

 

OpenDVD compliance is a feature of my new RealPlayer 11 Beta which downloads my youtube videos and burns them to dvd with a menu that would be fine if the font size was smaller.

[Larry]

MyDVD 9 supports opening those discs. It's under File -> Edit DVD Disc. The discs needs to be in the drive first.

[Webfairy]

MyDVD 9 supports opening those discs. It's under File -> Edit DVD Disc. The discs needs to be in the drive first.

 

Freshly burned disk.

Plays just fine, but when I open MyDVD and Click "Edit DVD Disk" IT SAYS No editable disk was found.

The disk is in the drive.

 

The Realplayer 11 software is beta so maybe the problem is on their end.

Is there a way I can continue to troubleshoot this?

[mikiem]

@Webfairy

Sorry -- My original thoughts were in the time it took to look all this stuff up and post it, could have easily done a new DVD.

 

Not to dampen your enthusiasm, there are other software solutions for basically the same thing that have been available for some time, so it's possible it's an idea that hasn't yet appealed to the market in general. That's said only in the hope of moderating your criticism of Roxio.

 

As far as any potential time savings go, the time to encode mpg2, &/or transcode flv (YouTube) remain no matter the method, and they take up most of the time spent creating a simple DVD. Time savings are more or less limited to whatever time is spent writing the data to disk -- you pay for that by not being able to edit the content itself, which for some folks is a big concern. The convenience of having in effect a saved MyDVD project file on the DVD itself can be accomplished by just saving project files. On disc editing of the DVD's instructions to the player is convenient, but the price, like when using a DVDR, is a somewhat less compatibility. Ease of use is accomplished by eliminating some choices. Again I don't wish to reduce your enthusiasm, but want to offer realistic comments RE: your Open DVD sales pitch.

 

Larry posted that you can edit these discs which is great! Hopefully you can do what you want. Otherwise you might want to post in or check out the Real &/or Helix (real opensource) communities. Real/Helix Producer encodes files based on XML templates -- Perhaps it works the same way for your DVDs, and if so, you might be able to change the font size there and not edit at all.

[Webfairy]

@Webfairy

Sorry -- My original thoughts were in the time it took to look all this stuff up and post it, could have easily done a new DVD.

 

Not to dampen your enthusiasm, there are other software solutions for basically the same thing that have been available for some time, so it's possible it's an idea that hasn't yet appealed to the market in general. That's said only in the hope of moderating your criticism of Roxio.

 

As far as any potential time savings go, the time to encode mpg2, &/or transcode flv (YouTube) remain no matter the method, and they take up most of the time spent creating a simple DVD. Time savings are more or less limited to whatever time is spent writing the data to disk -- you pay for that by not being able to edit the content itself, which for some folks is a big concern. The convenience of having in effect a saved MyDVD project file on the DVD itself can be accomplished by just saving project files. On disc editing of the DVD's instructions to the player is convenient, but the price, like when using a DVDR, is a somewhat less compatibility. Ease of use is accomplished by eliminating some choices. Again I don't wish to reduce your enthusiasm, but want to offer realistic comments RE: your Open DVD sales pitch.

 

Larry posted that you can edit these discs which is great! Hopefully you can do what you want. Otherwise you might want to post in or check out the Real &/or Helix (real opensource) communities. Real/Helix Producer encodes files based on XML templates -- Perhaps it works the same way for your DVDs, and if so, you might be able to change the font size there and not edit at all.

 

I see it as an idea who's time has come.

I've been asking at the Real forum too, and the glitch is on their end.

http://real.lithium.com/real/board/message...ump=true#M17277

 

Being able to archive YouTube videos to DVD so that friends who only believe (or have access to) what they see on television can see it on TV.

 

Or perhaps what you are trying to tell me is that disks compiled this way are less TVsetbox DVD compatible.

I plan to burn the final copy without the opendvd directory included.

 

Just about the only way we can bring attention to September Clues, 911 Octopus and 911 Flatline is by burning them ourselves.

 

I think YouTube collecting will be a hobby like stamp collecting now that a program that can make albums for them is coming out. I think that when the OPENDVD standard first came out, people were still overwhelmed by the process and not interested in tweaking menus.

But times have changed and the projects I share with my friends have pretty decent production values, and that includes being able to tweak the fonts.

 

If there is any collaboration to get this feature up and running in RealPlayer 11 Beta, I would love to be involved. If there is an opportunity to be a cheerleader, I am seriously enthusiastic about the opendvd standard allowing tweaks to an already completed disk.

20th century grandmothers knit booties. 21st century grandmothers knit YouTube videos into DVDs.

It fulfills the same urge.