which video selection is best for burning multiple movies?

[andyx181x]

Alright, i have the software needed to extract Video_TS folders, and convert them into a very decent mp4 H.264 encoded movie file for TV. however seeing that its just the video itself, the file is not much bigger then a Gig so I would like to fit multiple movies onto one DVD-DL. im confused as to wheter use Super Video or Divx Video to do this. I heard Divx videos may not work on a ordinary dvd player, and hence that is not what i want to do; and isn't super video pretty much a VCD? please someone be kind to tell me what is the best setting to achieve my goals. Note i already tired DVD Video but it will spread the one movie onto the entire disc meaning it will only take one movie in that format

[tsantee]

H.264 is an excellent format for playing video on a computer or AppleTV. It doesn't play on DVD players. If you are wanting to store these videos on a DVD media then use Toast's Data window.

 

If you want to play your videos on a video DVD player then they must be authored in a VIDEO_TS folder and burned in UDF format. In other words you want to start with the video in your VIDEO_TS folders before you encoded them to H.264.

 

Roxio's new Popcorn 3 has an easy way to select videos from multiple VIDEO_TS folders for burning to one DVD (either single-layer or dual-layer). With Toast 8 the process is a little more difficult. In either case you'll be working with MPEG 2 format which is not as highly compressed as H.264 or DivX so you won't get as much on a disc.

 

For background, VCD is poor quality video of up to 60 minutes that fits on a CD-R disc. Super VCD is reasonable quality video of about 30 minutes that fits on a CD-R disc. Neither are what you want.

 

DivX is more highly compressed then is H.264 and provides good quality. It typically is burned to CD-R media and fits an entire normal-length movie. Many newer DVD players (particularly lower-cost players) have DivX disc playback capability. Many also can play DivX videos burned to DVD media in ISO 9660 format.

 

I'm presuming you want to play the videos on your TV. What are you going to use to play them - a DVD player, DivX player, AppleTV, a Mac or PC, or something else? If I know that I can tell you what you'll need to do.

[andyx181x]

H.264 is an excellent format for playing video on a computer or AppleTV. It doesn't play on DVD players. If you are wanting to store these videos on a DVD media then use Toast's Data window.

 

If you want to play your videos on a video DVD player then they must be authored in a VIDEO_TS folder and burned in UDF format. In other words you want to start with the video in your VIDEO_TS folders before you encoded them to H.264.

 

Roxio's new Popcorn 3 has an easy way to select videos from multiple VIDEO_TS folders for burning to one DVD (either single-layer or dual-layer). With Toast 8 the process is a little more difficult. In either case you'll be working with MPEG 2 format which is not as highly compressed as H.264 or DivX so you won't get as much on a disc.

 

For background, VCD is poor quality video of up to 60 minutes that fits on a CD-R disc. Super VCD is reasonable quality video of about 30 minutes that fits on a CD-R disc. Neither are what you want.

 

DivX is more highly compressed then is H.264 and provides good quality. It typically is burned to CD-R media and fits an entire normal-length movie. Many newer DVD players (particularly lower-cost players) have DivX disc playback capability. Many also can play DivX videos burned to DVD media in ISO 9660 format.

 

I'm presuming you want to play the videos on your TV. What are you going to use to play them - a DVD player, DivX player, AppleTV, a Mac or PC, or something else? If I know that I can tell you what you'll need to do.

 

 

alright heres the deal, im using mac the ripper to extract the video ts folder, however the quality of the movie itself is lost about 15-20% when i burn it as is with roxio. so i decided to use handbrake and isquint to finalize the the folder into a very decent mp4 h.264 file, i got two versions. one for TV's and one for my ipod video. now that i just have this movie file thats a little over a gig, i figure instead of wasting one entire DVD-DL disc for one movie, i want to put as many movies as i can onto one disc. i plan to play these discs on DVD players, i keep the master copys on the hard drive. so which burning format do you recommend? i already checked the divx format and i can fill a DVD-DL with about 5-7 movies, if i use just use DVD-Video it will only hold one movie.

[tsantee]

alright heres the deal, im using mac the ripper to extract the video ts folder, however the quality of the movie itself is lost about 15-20% when i burn it as is with roxio. so i decided to use handbrake and isquint to finalize the the folder into a very decent mp4 h.264 file, i got two versions. one for TV's and one for my ipod video. now that i just have this movie file thats a little over a gig, i figure instead of wasting one entire DVD-DL disc for one movie, i want to put as many movies as i can onto one disc. i plan to play these discs on DVD players, i keep the master copys on the hard drive. so which burning format do you recommend? i already checked the divx format and i can fill a DVD-DL with about 5-7 movies, if i use just use DVD-Video it will only hold one movie.

Toast will burn the content of an existing VIDEO_TS folder with no loss of quality unless you choose Fit-to-DVD and have a dual-layer sized VIDEO_TS folder. In that case there is some loss of quality in order to "requantize" the bit rate to fit the smaller media.

 

Your situation is that you want the video to play using a DVD player but you want multiple titles to fit the dual-layer DVD. This isn't possible because the DVD player requires MPEG 2 format video which is what the source VIDEO_TS has. All that can be done is requantize it with Fit-to-DVD or re-encode it to a lower bit rate which will be even worse in quality.

 

I'm thinking you should consider the AppleTV and forget about trying to play discs. If you went with DivX instead you might consider and Al Tech MediaGate which also is a hard drive and network player connected to your home entertainment system.

 

If you insist on having multiple movies fit on DVD media then your only other option is to get a DivX-capable DVD player, encode your video to DivX and put several of those movies on the DVD. I don't know if these players can read multiple DivX movies on DL media. The spec is for them to be on CD-R so the player may not read DVDs or may not read the second layer of DVD+R DL discs. You'll need to find this out from someone who has tried it. Maybe someone at videohelp.com has done this.

 

My advice: forget about discs and go with AppleTV.

[andyx181x]

Toast will burn the content of an existing VIDEO_TS folder with no loss of quality unless you choose Fit-to-DVD and have a dual-layer sized VIDEO_TS folder. In that case there is some loss of quality in order to "requantize" the bit rate to fit the smaller media.

 

Your situation is that you want the video to play using a DVD player but you want multiple titles to fit the dual-layer DVD. This isn't possible because the DVD player requires MPEG 2 format video which is what the source VIDEO_TS has. All that can be done is requantize it with Fit-to-DVD or re-encode it to a lower bit rate which will be even worse in quality.

 

I'm thinking you should consider the AppleTV and forget about trying to play discs. If you went with DivX instead you might consider and Al Tech MediaGate which also is a hard drive and network player connected to your home entertainment system.

 

If you insist on having multiple movies fit on DVD media then your only other option is to get a DivX-capable DVD player, encode your video to DivX and put several of those movies on the DVD. I don't know if these players can read multiple DivX movies on DL media. The spec is for them to be on CD-R so the player may not read DVDs or may not read the second layer of DVD+R DL discs. You'll need to find this out from someone who has tried it. Maybe someone at videohelp.com has done this.

 

 

My advice: forget about discs and go with AppleTV.

 

alright you have enticed me with the idea of apple tv, if that is the case i think just to be safe and not lose all of my space on my hard drive. i could at least just burn the videos into a data cd, and import them when i want onto the mac and play them threw apple tv right?

 

oh btw since mac the ripper is losing some quality when extracting the video ts folder, do you know another program that does it better? because handbrake does it but like i said it converts the folder automatically into mp4; im going to go ahead and burn one of my videos to see if it will work on the dvd player just for curiosities sake. because i am sure it can play an mp4

[lakewoodlawnman]

oh btw since mac the ripper is losing some quality when extracting the video ts folder

 

You don't loose quality when ripping with MTR. That is such a false statement. It is just pulling the files from the disc. It is not changing any thing so quality is the same.

[andyx181x]

You don't loose quality when ripping with MTR. That is such a false statement. It is just pulling the files from the disc. It is not changing any thing so quality is the same.

 

 

i beg to differ, it just doesn't look as sharp as the original dvd, i compared the two running on my mac and i can see a visual difference