johnomg Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 G'day All I have searched the Forum and Googled my heart out to the extent that I'm pretty sure I'm up a Creek without a Paddle...but as you know, I just have to ask to be sure Needed Information: - Adpatec Easy CD Creator Version 4.02d S20 (I think my problem is with DirectCD and as far as I can get is the Wizard Screen for a Version) - Adaptec DirectCD Wizard 3.01d S20 - Windows ME (stop laughing) - Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-111D - Changes: The old Drive went belly up and I installed a Pioneer Drive (few years back now) Feel free to correct any misconceptions I have or anything I have been misled about. I'll start by saying that I do realise that ECDC 4 will not work with my Pioneer Drive as it's too new and there appear to be no Updates for it. When I got the Pioneer Drive I also got Nero and everything was and still is working fine for me using that. I uninstalled ECDC 4 at the time, which was a Freebie with my PC. My problem began when I tried to access some Disks that I had created using DirectCD and the old Drive. I don't have details for the Old Drive, it came with my Compaq and is now probably at the bottom of a land fill somewhere. When I put a Disk into the Pioneer Drive and try to access it through "My Computer", all I got was a message saying "Please insert a disk into drive E:" (all the disks created using DirectCD gave that message). After some searching I realised that the Pioneer Drive could not recognise the Disks, why exactly I'm not 100% sure as I have given friends Disks with Photos on them in the past (saved as Data) and they had no problems accessing the Disk (even if they didn't have Adaptec). So I figure the Pioneer Drive should at least be able to read them??? I decided to Re-Install ECDC 4 and DirectCD to see if that made a difference, if I try to access the Disk through "My Computer" all it opens is a Blank Window with "Used: 0 bytes" and "Free: 648MB" (I know the Disks are not empty). If I try to run DirectCD it stalls during the Wizard telling me "No Supported CD-R/CD-RW drive!". That's fair enough as I know the Pioneer Drive is not supported. My questions are this (without ECDC 4 installed): - Should I not be able to at least access the Disks with my Pioneer Drive??? - Is there a Tool or Procedure that I can use to recover the Data and move it to my Hard Drive??? EDIT: I was told that if I left them as Multi-Session Disks then that might be my problem. I can't remember, but I probably did. Thanks in advance. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 G'day All I have searched the Forum and Googled my heart out to the extent that I'm pretty sure I'm up a Creek without a Paddle...but as you know, I just have to ask to be sure Needed Information: - Adpatec Easy CD Creator Version 4.02d S20 (I think my problem is with DirectCD and as far as I can get is the Wizard Screen for a Version) - Adaptec DirectCD Wizard 3.01d S20 - Windows ME (stop laughing) - Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-111D - Changes: The old Drive went belly up and I installed a Pioneer Drive (few years back now) Feel free to correct any misconceptions I have or anything I have been misled about. I'll start by saying that I do realise that ECDC 4 will not work with my Pioneer Drive as it's too new and there appear to be no Updates for it. When I got the Pioneer Drive I also got Nero and everything was and still is working fine for me using that. I uninstalled ECDC 4 at the time, which was a Freebie with my PC. My problem began when I tried to access some Disks that I had created using DirectCD and the old Drive. I don't have details for the Old Drive, it came with my Compaq and is now probably at the bottom of a land fill somewhere. When I put a Disk into the Pioneer Drive and try to access it through "My Computer", all I got was a message saying "Please insert a disk into drive E:" (all the disks created using DirectCD gave that message). After some searching I realised that the Pioneer Drive could not recognise the Disks, why exactly I'm not 100% sure as I have given friends Disks with Photos on them in the past (saved as Data) and they had no problems accessing the Disk (even if they didn't have Adaptec). So I figure the Pioneer Drive should at least be able to read them??? I decided to Re-Install ECDC 4 and DirectCD to see if that made a difference, if I try to access the Disk through "My Computer" all it opens is a Blank Window with "Used: 0 bytes" and "Free: 648MB" (I know the Disks are not empty). If I try to run DirectCD it stalls during the Wizard telling me "No Supported CD-R/CD-RW drive!". That's fair enough as I know the Pioneer Drive is not supported. My questions are this (without ECDC 4 installed): - Should I not be able to at least access the Disks with my Pioneer Drive??? - Is there a Tool or Procedure that I can use to recover the Data and move it to my Hard Drive??? EDIT: I was told that if I left them as Multi-Session Disks then that might be my problem. I can't remember, but I probably did. Thanks in advance. Regards John Try this, Adaptec UDF Reader Driver 5.1.1.213 download Conflicts with InCD (Nero) software. If it don't work come back there are other options. "ME" 'G'day All, 10:39 PM', down under? cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnomg Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 G'day cd It was 3:09pm here when I posted originally and almost Midnight now, I don't think "G'day" actually has a time frame to be used, it's generic I suppose, besides "G'arvo" or "G'night" would sound too weird Thanks for the advice, I will try it tomorrow and post the results. I would like to try it now, but the wife would take a Cricket Bat to my head if I have another late night playing with these Disks Yeah "ME" Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnomg Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 G'day cd I relented and decided to try your advice before bedtime. I installed Adaptec UDF Reader Driver 5.1.1.213 with no apparent problems. On reboot I did receive this message though: "The IPHLPAPI.dll file cannot start. Check the file to determine the problem". I have never had that Error Message before and found that "iphlpapi.dll is a module containing the functions used by the Windows IP Helper API". I tried two more reboots and it didn't appear so I will put it down to a one off Glitch for now. Pardon my ignorance, I thought the Reader would be a seperate Tool but can't find it anywhere on it's own, so I assume it has installed itself within ECDC 4 and just updated the original Reader??? Unfortunately I still have the same problem as described in my Original Post. It is possible I haven't used Adaptec UDF Reader Driver 5.1.1.213 properly and am open to a lesson in it's correct use. If I have used it properly, then I look forward to your next suggestion. Thanks again. Regards John P.S. Yeah, I'm sleeping on the Lounge now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 ME = Multiple Errors Vista = ME II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Google IsoBuster or CDRoller free downloads. They show what's on the disc to recover but it's pay to do it. cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn98109 Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 http://www.cdroller.com and http://www.isobuster.com - to save a step. Both have impressive testimonials on their websites and in the Roxio boards. Both now have "trial" versions, which let you see if anything can be recovered before you have to pay - your odds are better with CD-R than CD-RW. A couple references that may be useful: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=61943 Byers Guide (.pdf) http://www.cdrfaq.org/ Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnomg Posted September 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 G'day cd Thanks for the suggestions. G'day Lynn Thanks for the Links to the Products cd suggested and Reference Material. I glanced through the Reference Material and found the information about Disk Quality, Dyes and Manufacturers particulary interesting. I have saved them and will have a better read as time allows. G'day gi7omy I've heard it all about ME ---------- I tried IsoBuster first with no luck, but more about that later. I then tried CDRoller and it worked very well. I have already recovered the Data from 2 Disks to my Hard Drive, checked the contents and am able to access the files without a problem. I haven't checked every folder and file yet as there is too much to do in one sitting, but I don't envisage a problem at this point. I then wondered why IsoBuster didn't work for me and went back to it. Apparently I made the Classic Newbie Error of trying to Extract the Data the wrong way and got a .tao file instead of Recovered Files. What I should have done was selected "Find missing files and folders" first, then it displays the contents of the Disk. Once I did that it showed me what it had found and I could copy the Data over to the Hard Drive. On a Personal Note my preference is CDRoller, it gave information about the Disk itself immediatety (for example: mulit-session as I had thought) and I found the User Interface very easy to use for a Newbie, it showed me that the Disk contained one Zipped Folder and what I had named it. IsoBuster I'm sure is a powerful tool, but I found it a bit confusing, when I searched for missing files and folders it gave me 4 Areas (for lack of a better word) to look in, one had the Zipped Folder by it's orginal name, another had a Zipped Folder called "Recovered File 1" and it had the original unzipped folder in it, there were several other Zipped Recovered Folders at about 21MB but they were empty. Why I have no idea as I appear to have recovered all the Data on the Disk, maybe I did something wrong with the original burn??? Anyway, they both allowed me to recover the Data from the Disks, I just found CDRoller easier to use. Thank you very much for your Help in recovering the Data from my Disks, it is greatly appreciated. Regards John P.S. Only a suggestion, but I think having CDRoller and IsoBuster as Data Recovery Tools on the FAQ Page would be useful and informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn98109 Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 cdroller, ISOBuster, and a lot more info relating to frequent questions is contained in a post pinned to the top of the ECDC 5 and 4 Forum. Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnomg Posted September 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 G'day Lynn Thanks for that, my mistake. I looked and remember reading it now, because my problem started with not being able to see the Disk (Please insert a disk into drive E:) I didn't make the connection that "Missing Files" meant the same thing. My apologies, I was too focused on one thing instead of the bigger picture. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 P.S. Only a suggestion, but I think having CDRoller and IsoBuster as Data Recovery Tools on the FAQ Page would be useful and informative. johnomg, look under the McDonalds arches /\/\/\ /\/\/\ . cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnomg Posted September 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 G'day cd My apologies to you as well (and anyone else who also points out the Dumbo I am). I'm a Hungry Jacks (Burger King) man, so tend not to notice Golden Arches. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 G'day cd I'm a Hungry Jacks (Burger King) man, so tend not to notice Golden Arches. Regards John cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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