Vista Explorer cannot see half the files on 4.7 GB backed-up data DVDs

[aardvark2zz]

Help, any suggestions appreciated.

 

Vista Explorer cannot see half the files on 4.7 GB backed-up data DVDs which was backed up using Sonic data burning software. Most if not all the back-up DVDs have the same problem ( > 5 DVDs ). It seems to say in the folders "drag your files here" !!?? even though the DVDs are closed and the files are not shown.

 

But when I use do an image copy from DVD to HD it seems to properly download the whole 4.7 GB DVD Ok. But I need a software to open an image to show the files and directories.

 

Sonic Roxio reinstalled successfully with no improvements. No updates required !

 

Could it be DLA ?

 

I've tried it with at least 5 "backup" DVDs and the same thing happens. The directory structure seems to be fine but 50% to 90% of the files are missing (4 GB); i.e. MS explorer and many other softwares (IZArc, WinRAR) say empty directory; THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS ISOBUSTER but I can't open the file without buying it. Anyways, normally all softwares should be able to see the files.

 

The DVDs were burnt on my previous dell inspiron 6000 with TSST L532B DVD drive using FULLY updated Sonic Roxio software and DLAs. The directory structure and some files were fully verified by myself then on my dell 6000.

 

Some were done with drag and drop, and some were done with Roxio Sonic data backup software, to ensure diversity in burning.

 

I often used Nero CDSpeed to verify my burns 100% and rarely have problems; I ONLY USE NAMEBRAND DVD+-Rs !!

 

Lucky I burnt the same info using 2 different methods even though I see the same problems on my new replacement dell 1521 inspiron.

 

To me it looks similar to a DLA issue !? Anyway of updating it separately like it was done on my old dell 6000.

 

Why do most softwares not see most of the files ? The discs are all closed.

 

I've checked for Roxio updates and none are required.

 

Thanks a lot in advance.

 

Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Dell Inspiron 1521, Vista, TSST L632H,

 

Roxio Creator DE

Version: 9.0.117

Build: 901B17R, DL2

Serial Number: xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

Module Name: PX Engine

Build: 3.6.36a, 5

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

Module Name: Roxio Core

Version: 3.3.0

Build: 331B17F, DLD

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Tools

Version: 3.3.0

Build: 330B40C, DLE

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Data

Version: 3.3.0

Build: 330B45D, DLD

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Copy

Version: 3.3.0

Build: 330B45C, DLD

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Audio

Version: 3.3.0

Build: 330B49G, DLD

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2006

 

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[james_hardin]

Pls do elaborate. e.g. what is required to make it work ? I'm not very familiar with the Creator Classic software.

 

FTR, It seems that IsoBuster should be incorporated into Roxio. Maybe a stock swap is in order.

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Your car came with instructions too. If you choose to ignore them and destroy your car it isn't the manufactures fault!

 

IF you choose to use software and not bother to learn how to use it, it isn't Roxio or MS's fault…

[grandpabruce]

Pls do elaborate. e.g. what is required to make it work ? I'm not very familiar with the Creator Classic software.

 

FTR, It seems that IsoBuster should be incorporated into Roxio. Maybe a stock swap is in order.

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Click on the Roxio icon on your desktop, then click on Applications, then click on Creator Classic.

[aardvark2zz]

Your car came with instructions too. If you choose to ignore them and destroy your car it isn't the manufactures fault!

 

IF you choose to use software and not bother to learn how to use it, it isn't Roxio or MS's fault…

 

Who reads car manuals anymore !!?? Just change oil every 10000 km.

 

New cars have to be able to ride on everyday roads that older cars ride on; that's a given.

 

Like others are trying to do, pls post solutions to the 1st post.

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[aardvark2zz]

Click on the Roxio icon on your desktop, then click on Applications, then click on Creator Classic.

 

I got an interesting result.

 

I clicked on

 

Roxio > Home > Applications > Utilities > Media Import

 

or

 

Roxio > Photo > Import Photo

 

and it could see all the pics !! but not the non-pics.

 

I checked around and basically my installed Roxio that came with the Dell computer can only restore pics, or .ISO files, but nothing else.

 

So my only solution is to copy the .ISO file and then use WinRAR. Or I guess purchase: IsoBuster or Roxio full package.

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[bimicher]

I got an interesting result.

 

I clicked on

 

Roxio > Home > Applications > Utilities > Media Import

 

or

 

Roxio > Photo > Import Photo

 

and it could see all the pics !! but not the non-pics.

 

I checked around and basically my installed Roxio that came with the Dell computer can only restore pics, or .ISO files, but nothing else.

 

So my only solution is to copy the .ISO file and then use WinRAR. Or I guess purchase: IsoBuster or Roxio full package.

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Media Import or Import Photo will of course only see "media" files. Nothing strange about that.

[aardvark2zz]

James, with all the 'DLA' references I've a feeling he's been using either Drag to Disc or the Sonic DLA app

 

Neither of these will work with Vista and the best way is to extract them on the old computer and then rewrite them using Creator so they will be compatable.

 

Vista uses its own packet writing system which would account for the problem

 

Thanks for the reply. gi7omy you seem to be pointing in the right direction.

 

I burnt the same data for backup using 2 methods (exactly to avoid this problem; but alas ): Drag-and-Drop (DLA) AND Roxio Data Data-Disc methods on an XP Dell Inspiron 6000.

 

I probably also used a 3rd method that didn't go through Roxio (i.e. I created an .ISO image of the directories and burnt it using the great DVDDecrypter).

 

Does this mean that all data stored in the past through XP's Roxio's DLA or Roxio's Disc Disc-Data cannot be read through Vista !!!???????? (except to go through .ISO copying or IsoBuster)

 

This would mean a lot of novice people would be in a bind with recovering their backups.

 

Roxio MUST have a solution to this Vista mess !!!????

Anyone have any suggestions.

 

My XP, Dell Inspiron 6000 is no longer here.

 

Thanks again in advance.

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[gi7omy]

Vista doesn't have a solution to the Vista mess - it has its own built in packet writing system and no two packet writing systems are compatible - doesn't matter if it's D2D, DLA, InCD, Vista or what - none of them are any good at reading data created in another app.

 

Unfortunately that's how it is with drag and drop - totally unreliable for backup purposes as you have unfortunately found out

[aardvark2zz]

Vista doesn't have a solution to the Vista mess - it has its own built in packet writing system and no two packet writing systems are compatible - doesn't matter if it's D2D, DLA, InCD, Vista or what - none of them are any good at reading data created in another app.

 

Unfortunately that's how it is with drag and drop - totally unreliable for backup purposes as you have unfortunately found out

 

Thanks,

 

If free and small DVD-Decrypter can successfully read the image file, and free WinRAR can open the file structure, then why doesn't Roxio supply a small application that allows the proper reading of files saved using Roxio software; especially for day-to-day users who are forced to go from XP to Vista.

 

This seems to tell me that there is a solution !!

 

This would prevent 'novice' Roxio users from losing their old data.

 

I found a way to recover my files but WOW what a scary feeling when you first see empty directories.

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[gi7omy]

I don't know anything about the decrypter (and I doubt if I wan to considering the name) but winrar isn't free - it's a trial version and really only reads iso (or archived) files

 

Both those are outside the scope of what EMC is designed to do really - and there is a linmit as to how much stuff you can bundle in a suite before it becomes as awkward as a large Swiss Army knife

[aardvark2zz]

Media Import or Import Photo will of course only see "media" files. Nothing strange about that.

 

If you read the earlier posts you would have realized that I couldn't see ANY files before that.

 

This narrows down the problem and solutions.

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[james_hardin]

But a Data Disc Authored by Roxio is readable in any Windows PC from Win 3.0 to Vista.

 

If yours are not, then you did not Author a Data Disc!

 

Likewise your DLA discs should be fully readable in both XP or Vista! Both have packet readers built in and have always been able to read any Roxio or Sonic disc.

 

Then again, despite the misleading cooing's from some around here, packet writing has a proven history of failure. Yours is just another example that those birds ignore…

[aardvark2zz]

But a Data Disc Authored by Roxio is readable in any Windows PC from Win 3.0 to Vista.

 

If yours are not, then you did not Author a Data Disc!

 

Likewise your DLA discs should be fully readable in both XP or Vista! Both have packet readers built in and have always been able to read any Roxio or Sonic disc.

 

Then again, despite the misleading cooing's from some around here, packet writing has a proven history of failure. Yours is just another example that those birds ignore…

 

With all this insider lingo I`m not sure what some of you are saying.

 

Sorry but, again, they were created with Roxio software in XP, as mentioned earlier, and they are not readable with Roxio software in Vista !!

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[gi7omy]

But they are readable with Roxio D2D or Sonic DLA (the programs that created them). The problem is that you are using an OS which has its own built in packet writing s/w and the above two programs just will not work in it.

 

This is down to the OS itself and that's where you are running into a brick wall - You cannot read those files without the original programs and they won't work in Vista

[aardvark2zz]

But they are readable with Roxio D2D or Sonic DLA (the programs that created them). The problem is that you are using an OS which has its own built in packet writing s/w and the above two programs just will not work in it.

 

This is down to the OS itself and that's where you are running into a brick wall - You cannot read those files without the original programs and they won't work in Vista

 

Thanks I got that point,

 

If that is true then I still don't understand why Roxio doesn't supply a work around. A "DLA" that over-rides Vista's.

 

After only a few days I strongly feel like getting rid of Vista !!!

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[gi7omy]

Over here it got a nickname ' ME II' (pronounced me too)

[grandpabruce]

Thanks I got that point,

 

If that is true then I still don't understand why Roxio doesn't supply a work around. A "DLA" that over-rides Vista's.

 

After only a few days I strongly feel like getting rid of Vista !!!

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Use Creator Classic, and you won't have to be pulling your hair out trying to get a computer to read the burned disc.

[Brendon]

Then again, despite the misleading cooing's from some around here, packet writing has a proven history of failure. Yours is just another example that those birds ignore…

That was a "cheep" shot, Jim

 

"Cooings" doesn't have an apostrophe.

[gi7omy]

That was a "cheep" shot, Jim

 

"Cooings" doesn't have an apostrophe.

 

send him a 'bill'

[grandpabruce]

send him a 'bill'

 

I think that I shall just fly away now, after reading that remark.

[james_hardin]

Sorry but I hardly have a clue as to what you are doing???

 

It sounds like you are copying the entire DVDs to your HD. If they are truly backup's, that will never work!

 

Backups have to be restored and when you insert the 1st DVD of a set it should autorun a restore program.

 

But since we have no idea how you burned these DVDs (there are 35 programs in the Suite and at least 8 different ways to burn a disc) it is only a guess…

[aardvark2zz]

Use Creator Classic, and you won't have to be pulling your hair out trying to get a computer to read the burned disc.

 

Pls do elaborate. e.g. what is required to make it work ? I'm not very familiar with the Creator Classic software.

 

FTR, It seems that IsoBuster should be incorporated into Roxio. Maybe a stock swap is in order.

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[gi7omy]

James, with all the 'DLA' references I've a feeling he's been using either Drag to Disc or the Sonic DLA app

 

Neither of these will work with Vista and the best way is to extract them on the old computer and then rewrite them using Creator so they will be compatable.

 

Vista uses its own packet writing system which would account for the problem