Creating folder sets

[bstreber@comcast.net]

I enabled saving folder sets in the burn display of MyDVD 10 and all the *.jpg files

were copied under "YOUR_PHOTOS", but none of the *.mov files were copied.

These file sets aren't very useful because I interspersed many *.mov clips among the photos.

 

Bernie

[bstreber@comcast.net]

A Video_TS folder is required on the DVD so that a DVD player can play your DVD. Whether you burn a DVD from the iso file or the Video_TS folder on your hard drive makes no difference. You will wind up with exactly the same folder/file structure on your DVD. Did you ever try my suggestion about creating a virtual drive and then loading the iso file onto that drive? This simulates burning a DVD and can be used for testing your navigation buttons without creating coasters, especially expensive DL ones.

 

I would recommend that you also try to work with a smaller project initially, perhaps only 2 menu pages, before doing your complete project. That way it is easier to become familiar with all the features of Videowave and myDVD.

 

I looked all over the applications within Easy Media Creator 10 for "Disc Image Loader". I opened "Video Copy & Convert" application, loaded my *.iso file, then selected "DVD-Video Folder" under Destination and then "Save As" to locate a folder on my hard drive. It executed relatively quickly and I was able to open the new Video_TS folder file set with CinePlayer. It plays okay on my laptop. It devoured my *.iso file too!

 

Is it generally true that the set top box should perform like the laptop? There are times when the same disc plays ok on the set top box and other times it doesn't. I think the set top box "remembers" too much and gets itself fouled up. This performance problem happens on other DVD player set top boxes too.

 

Bernie

[bstreber@comcast.net]

Both will eventually produce a Standard Movie DVD provided you burn them correctly… (the Folder Set (VIDEO_TS), must be burned using Copy and Convert!!! – use anything else and it will fail)

 

Likewise, if you want to add Archive Folders to your DVD Movie, the Folder Set is the only way it will work!

 

However, you must keep in mind that you are going to be limited to a Movie of about 30 minutes!!!

 

If you movie is 30 minutes long, you have used up 2+gb of space. So your remaining space is Less than 2gb.

 

A better archiving solution is what GPB suggested, use Classic.

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

I use one (DL) disc for the DVD-video shows (using MyDVD) and another (DL) disc for the source *.jpg and my own *.mov files (using Data Disc). I also create and save a *.doc file with the root information for the data folders so they can be re-loaded later and Roxio MyDVD 10 and VideoWave 10 can recognize them and for additional editing, which I always do after comments from other viewers and additional *.jpg files come my way. My DVD-video releases are 1.0, then 1.1 for small changes, or 2.0, 3.0 for major changes.

 

I have spent a lot of time re-burning to attempt to fix the menu/button control sequences, but nothing so far has worked. I have noticed that it works if I use one menu with one button having lots of *.jpg and *.mov files. I suspect the menu/button control sequencing bug has something to do with the use of multiple menus with multiple buttons (maybe a limit somewhere). I use sequentially assigned menus. I don't use sub-menus.

 

Since VideoWave 10 and MyDVD 10 won't find the files copied under File Set, the consolidated *.jpg files are not much use to me.

 

Bernie

[bstreber@comcast.net]

I looked all over the applications within Easy Media Creator 10 for "Disc Image Loader". I opened "Video Copy & Convert" application, loaded my *.iso file, then selected "DVD-Video Folder" under Destination and then "Save As" to locate a folder on my hard drive. It executed relatively quickly and I was able to open the new Video_TS folder file set with CinePlayer. It plays okay on my laptop. It devoured my *.iso file too!

 

Is it generally true that the set top box should perform like the laptop? There are times when the same disc plays ok on the set top box and other times it doesn't. I think the set top box "remembers" too much and gets itself fouled up. This performance problem happens on other DVD player set top boxes too.

 

Bernie

 

 

P.S., Correction: It did not devour the *.iso file. I was mistaken because I had read that file from my server host and it was not on my laptop hard drive where I stored the new Video_TS folder and files. I found viewing the Video_TS file set very useful, because I discovered each button starts at the first chapter mark and ignores anything before it. So I'll add another chapter mark at the very start of each button where I used chapters.

[bstreber@comcast.net]

You make no senses whatsoever???

 

You describe one thing, making 2 separate discs, then go on to say that MyDVD won't recognize, thus consolidate files onto one disc.

 

Then you throw out something about Menu Buttons that you never posted before!

 

If you cannot clearly state your problem, no one can help you… Likewise if what you "want" is not possible, you are going to have to accept that fact!

 

 

Thanks, You are right. I'm sorry for not being clear.

 

Any time a file is missing, moved or re-named MyDVD and VideoWave ask you to go find them. I started this dialog with a question about consolidating the source *.doc and *.mov files under one new directory that would easily be recognized at a later date by the MyDVD and VideoWave applications after opening the original *.dmsd (MyDVD) and *.dmsm (VideoWave) files for editiing. I had hoped that the Folder Set feature might facilitate that, but now I understand it doesn't. Its purpose is primarily to save the Video_TS folder on your hard drive.

 

Your replies educated me on yet another way to burn a DVD-video using the Video_TS folder, so I responded to that new information hoping to learn that it might resolve the burn/play problem I have been experiencing since MyDVD 8/VedeoWave 8. I have burned the Video_TS folder per your instructions and I am about to play it on my set top box to see if it works better than the same DVD-video show directly burned from MyDVD or from the associated *.iso file. See below.

 

My biggest problem has been set top box playing my DVD-videos with several (sequential) menus having 5 or 6 buttons each and no sub-menus. Each button which was created by VideoWave 10 and loaded onto a MyDVD 10 menu contains a sequence of slides, with some of my *.mov files interspersed. MyDVD verifies ok before burning but the burned DVD DL-video does not reliably play. It initially opens okay and might play a selected button then if I press the remote pause/continue, or advance to the next chapter mark, or go up to the top menu, the play gets fouled up so I end up ejecting and re-starting only to find nothing works at all. I read elsewhere that a bug like this was reported to Roxio for 9 and 10 but no fix has been identified. I still haven't ruled out my cockpit errors and I'm still discovering other ways to burn a MyDVD show, hoping it plays ok repeatedly.

 

Bernie

[bimicher]

Thanks, You are right. I'm sorry for not being clear.

 

Any time a file is missing, moved or re-named MyDVD and VideoWave ask you to go find them. I started this dialog with a question about consolidating the source *.doc and *.mov files under one new directory that would easily be recognized at a later date by the MyDVD and VideoWave applications after opening the original *.dmsd (MyDVD) and *.dmsm (VideoWave) files for editiing. I had hoped that the Folder Set feature might facilitate that, but now I understand it doesn't. Its purpose is primarily to save the Video_TS folder on your hard drive.

 

Your replies educated me on yet another way to burn a DVD-video using the Video_TS folder, so I responded to that new information hoping to learn that it might resolve the burn/play problem I have been experiencing since MyDVD 8/VedeoWave 8. I have burned the Video_TS folder per your instructions and I am about to play it on my set top box to see if it works better than the same DVD-video show directly burned from MyDVD or from the associated *.iso file. See below.

 

My biggest problem has been set top box playing my DVD-videos with several (sequential) menus having 5 or 6 buttons each and no sub-menus. Each button which was created by VideoWave 10 and loaded onto a MyDVD 10 menu contains a sequence of slides, with some of my *.mov files interspersed. MyDVD verifies ok before burning but the burned DVD DL-video does not reliably play. It initially opens okay and might play a selected button then if I press the remote pause/continue, or advance to the next chapter mark, or go up to the top menu, the play gets fouled up so I end up ejecting and re-starting only to find nothing works at all. I read elsewhere that a bug like this was reported to Roxio for 9 and 10 but no fix has been identified. I still haven't ruled out my cockpit errors and I'm still discovering other ways to burn a MyDVD show, hoping it plays ok repeatedly.

 

Bernie

 

A Video_TS folder is required on the DVD so that a DVD player can play your DVD. Whether you burn a DVD from the iso file or the Video_TS folder on your hard drive makes no difference. You will wind up with exactly the same folder/file structure on your DVD. Did you ever try my suggestion about creating a virtual drive and then loading the iso file onto that drive? This simulates burning a DVD and can be used for testing your navigation buttons without creating coasters, especially expensive DL ones.

 

I would recommend that you also try to work with a smaller project initially, perhaps only 2 menu pages, before doing your complete project. That way it is easier to become familiar with all the features of Videowave and myDVD.

[bstreber@comcast.net]

I enabled saving folder sets in the burn display of MyDVD 10 and all the *.jpg files

were copied under "YOUR_PHOTOS", but none of the *.mov files were copied.

These file sets aren't very useful because I interspersed many *.mov clips among the photos.

 

Bernie

 

 

Lots of *.BUP, *.IFO and some very large *.VOB files under "VIDEO_TS".

 

Bernie

[grandpabruce]

I enabled saving folder sets in the burn display of MyDVD 10 and all the *.jpg files

were copied under "YOUR_PHOTOS", but none of the *.mov files were copied.

These file sets aren't very useful because I interspersed many *.mov clips among the photos.

 

Bernie

 

What folders showed in the Folder set, and what showed under the Video_TS folder?

[bstreber@comcast.net]

The way I read it, bstreber was hoping to archive both the photos as well as the video files he used to make the DVD…

 

I hope he realizes that a DVD only hold about 1 hour of video after every thing is put into standard DVD Movie format! The is not a lot of left over space on that disc!!!

 

Assuming there is MyDVD will only add an Archive of the photos used in the slideshow. So what he needs to do is Burn to Folder.

 

Then add a folder in the same place where it made the VIDEO_TS folder that contains copies of his video clips.

 

Then use Disc Copier to Burn to disc and Include Data Folders.

 

(I don't have EMC10 installed, so I cannot include screen caps)

 

Thanks for your response. I wanted the folder sets to consolidate all the *.jpg and *.mov source files in one directory/sub-directories that VideoWave 10 and MyDVD 10 can easily reference for further editing and burning a DVD-Video with those changes. If that works, then I would burn a data disk with Disc Copier for long term storage of the source files. If the editing can't be done, what are the VIDEO-TS files used for??

How can I easily direct VideoWave and MyDVD to locate these new files/locations?

 

Bernie

[grandpabruce]

Thanks for your response. I wanted the folder sets to consolidate all the *.jpg and *.mov source files in one directory/sub-directories that VideoWave 10 and MyDVD 10 can easily reference for further editing and burning a DVD-Video with those changes. If that works, then I would burn a data disk with Disc Copier for long term storage of the source files. If the editing can't be done, what are the VIDEO-TS files used for??

How can I easily direct VideoWave and MyDVD to locate these new files/locations?

 

Bernie

 

The idea for the Folder set is, once it has completed the encoding process, you open Video Copy and Convert, bring in that TS_Video file, and burn it to a DVD as a DVD movie that will play in your set top DVD player.

 

If you want to archive the photos and video files, use Creator Classic.

[bimicher]

Lots of *.BUP, *.IFO and some very large *.VOB files under "VIDEO_TS".

 

Bernie

 

I don't understand what you are trying to do. If you want to create a video DVD those are the only files that you should see on the DVD.None of your source files (mov, mpeg, etc)are copied to the DVD. The file structure under the VIDEO_TS folder is what you should have.

[bimicher]

Thanks for your response. I wanted the folder sets to consolidate all the *.jpg and *.mov source files in one directory/sub-directories that VideoWave 10 and MyDVD 10 can easily reference for further editing and burning a DVD-Video with those changes. If that works, then I would burn a data disk with Disc Copier for long term storage of the source files. If the editing can't be done, what are the VIDEO-TS files used for??

How can I easily direct VideoWave and MyDVD to locate these new files/locations?

 

Bernie

 

The Video_TS folder really has nothing to do with Videowave or myDVD. The folder is created when you burn a video DVD because is the requirement a DVD so that it can be played on DVD players. You will find the structure on every video DVD, commercial or otherwise. You are much better off putting your project files on a separate DVD then on the video DVD.

[grandpabruce]

Lots of *.BUP, *.IFO and some very large *.VOB files under "VIDEO_TS".

 

Bernie

 

When you are replying, don't reply to your own post. Click on the Reply button, under the post of the person you are replying to.

 

If you are making a movie DVD, you are seeing exactly what you should be seeing. If you are looking to make a data disc, you are using the wrong program. Use Creator Classic.

[grandpabruce]

The Video_TS folder really has nothing to do with Videowave or myDVD. The folder is created when you burn a video DVD because is the requirement a DVD so that it can be played on DVD players. You will find the structure on every video DVD, commercial or otherwise. You are much better off putting your project files on a separate DVD then on the video DVD.

 

I think you meant "than", Walt. You know that I had to do that. You caught me twice, in one day.

[bstreber@comcast.net]

The idea for the Folder set is, once it has completed the encoding process, you open Video Copy and Convert, bring in that TS_Video file, and burn it to a DVD as a DVD movie that will play in your set top DVD player.

 

If you want to archive the photos and video files, use Creator Classic.

 

Is there any difference between burning the TS-Video folder set vs. burning the associated *.iso disc image file?

Are they equivalent for DVD-Video playing on a set top box? Same disc burn size?

 

I have trouble playing the *.iso burned files with menu sequencing/button controls, etc. which may be due the the unresolved bug reported in 9 and 10.

 

The only other way I know to burn is directly to disc in MyDVD.

 

Bernie

[grandpabruce]

Is there any difference between burning the TS-Video folder set vs. burning the associated *.iso disc image file?

Are they equivalent for DVD-Video playing on a set top box? Same disc burn size?

 

I have trouble playing the *.iso burned files with menu sequencing/button controls, etc. which may be due the the unresolved bug reported in 9 and 10.

 

The only other way I know to burn is directly to disc in MyDVD.

 

Bernie

 

They should both work the same when burned to disc. You can preview the .iso of folder set, in Video Copy and Convert, before you burn it to a DVD, but you don't get the menus, etc., so you won't know if the sequencing is right.

[bimicher]

Is there any difference between burning the TS-Video folder set vs. burning the associated *.iso disc image file?

Are they equivalent for DVD-Video playing on a set top box? Same disc burn size?

 

I have trouble playing the *.iso burned files with menu sequencing/button controls, etc. which may be due the the unresolved bug reported in 9 and 10.

 

The only other way I know to burn is directly to disc in MyDVD.

 

Bernie

 

If you want to test your DVD navigation system you can launch Disc Image Loader, install a virtual drive and then load the iso file onto the virtual drive. You can then play the iso file just like a DVD using a software DVD player like CinePlayer or Windows Media Player.

[bimicher]

I enabled saving folder sets in the burn display of MyDVD 10 and all the *.jpg files

were copied under "YOUR_PHOTOS", but none of the *.mov files were copied.

These file sets aren't very useful because I interspersed many *.mov clips among the photos.

 

Bernie

Only photos that you used in your production are copied to the Your_Photos folder when you create a DVD (and only if you have selected the option to archive photos). Video files are never archived to the DVD when creating a DVD.

[james_hardin]

Thanks for your reply.

 

I use one (DL) disc for the DVD-video shows (using MyDVD) and another (DL) disc for the source *.jpg and my own *.mov files (using Data Disc). I also create and save a *.doc file with the root information for the data folders so they can be re-loaded later and Roxio MyDVD 10 and VideoWave 10 can recognize them and for additional editing, which I always do after comments from other viewers and additional *.jpg files come my way. My DVD-video releases are 1.0, then 1.1 for small changes, or 2.0, 3.0 for major changes.

 

I have spent a lot of time re-burning to attempt to fix the menu/button control sequences, but nothing so far has worked. I have noticed that it works if I use one menu with one button having lots of *.jpg and *.mov files. I suspect the menu/button control sequencing bug has something to do with the use of multiple menus with multiple buttons (maybe a limit somewhere). I use sequentially assigned menus. I don't use sub-menus.

 

Since VideoWave 10 and MyDVD 10 won't find the files copied under File Set, the consolidated *.jpg files are not much use to me.

 

Bernie

You make no senses whatsoever???

 

You describe one thing, making 2 separate discs, then go on to say that MyDVD won't recognize, thus consolidate files onto one disc.

 

Then you throw out something about Menu Buttons that you never posted before!

 

If you cannot clearly state your problem, no one can help you… Likewise if what you "want" is not possible, you are going to have to accept that fact!

[james_hardin]

Is there any difference between burning the TS-Video folder set vs. burning the associated *.iso disc image file?

Are they equivalent for DVD-Video playing on a set top box? Same disc burn size?

 

I have trouble playing the *.iso burned files with menu sequencing/button controls, etc. which may be due the the unresolved bug reported in 9 and 10.

 

The only other way I know to burn is directly to disc in MyDVD.

 

Bernie

Both will eventually produce a Standard Movie DVD provided you burn them correctly… (the Folder Set (VIDEO_TS), must be burned using Copy and Convert!!! – use anything else and it will fail)

 

Likewise, if you want to add Archive Folders to your DVD Movie, the Folder Set is the only way it will work!

 

However, you must keep in mind that you are going to be limited to a Movie of about 30 minutes!!!

 

If you movie is 30 minutes long, you have used up 2+gb of space. So your remaining space is Less than 2gb.

 

A better archiving solution is what GPB suggested, use Classic.

[james_hardin]

The way I read it, bstreber was hoping to archive both the photos as well as the video files he used to make the DVD…

 

I hope he realizes that a DVD only hold about 1 hour of video after every thing is put into standard DVD Movie format! The is not a lot of left over space on that disc!!!

 

Assuming there is MyDVD will only add an Archive of the photos used in the slideshow. So what he needs to do is Burn to Folder.

 

Then add a folder in the same place where it made the VIDEO_TS folder that contains copies of his video clips.

 

Then use Disc Copier to Burn to disc and Include Data Folders.

 

(I don't have EMC10 installed, so I cannot include screen caps)