Heaps Of Fonts That Won't Go Away

[jsachs177]

I have a copy of "Easy Media Creator 7 Basic DVD Edition" that was bundled with my DVD drive. I'm generally content with it, but I just discovered an egregious problem which I need to correct.

 

When I installed EMC, it apparently came with a huge number of fonts with names like Teen Light, Teen Italic, Pupcat, Sybil Green, Velvenda Cooler, Neuropol... (I cannot tell where each font came from, of course, and I can't swear that each of these fonts is EMC's responsibility. I know it has created a problem, though. Please read on.)

 

When I delete any of the extra fonts, I can no longer use Windows's drag-and-drop feature without invoking the Windows installer, which asks for the Roxio EMC installation disk, and reinstalls the fonts. (If I click Cancel the installer reopens multiple times, probably once per font. To make it go away costs me about 30 seconds each time I use drag-and-drop. Then the next time I use it, the installer just pops up again.)

 

These fonts are in my way. I regularly use a small number of fonts in Microsoft Word; when I open Word's font menu I want to see those fonts, plus the basic Windows fonts, and no others. Now they are buried in a long scrolling list of fonts I never use, and finding the ones I need is like finding a needle in a haystack.

 

I supposed I could avoid the problem by killing EMC's drag-and-drop task, but I can't. EMC appears to have dug its claws into Windows permanently, and the only way I can get rid of all those extra fonts is to uninstall it.

 

Is there a better way?

[chrisgl31415]

I asked this last year and I've just come back to see what it was I wrote after working out how to trash them but I see that Roxio have lost everything in some sort of "upgrade" to the forum softeware. Just about as useful as this font issue.

 

I'm going to have to work out the 'what to do' again, but the essense is...

 

The fonts are installed and attached to the Windows auto-repair feature via entires in the registry.

 

I worked out that by replacing each font name in the appropriate registry entry by "arial.ttf" I could delete the unwanted fonts and Roxio and the Auto-Repair thingy were none the wiser - afterall ARIAL.TTF is a required font by WIndows

 

Naturally this means a deal of fiddling with the registry - Me, I use "Registrar Registry Manager" (which has an undo feature) rather than regEdit.

 

Where I went wrong was not to produce a .reg file afterwards to simplify reinstating my "fix" and I now have to start over (

 

 

So; there is no 'simple' fix, but the above outline does work if you are prepared/happy to hack the registry

 

For the casual reader - playing with the registry _may_ leave your pc needing a complete reinstall of Windows if you are not careful. This is not something to do after an evening at the pub!

 

chris :-)

[jsachs177]

>I worked out that by replacing each font name in the appropriate registry

>entry by "arial.ttf" I could delete the unwanted fonts and Roxio and the

>Auto-Repair thingy were none the wiser...

 

So the program doesn't actually use these fonts at all -- it just insists on installing them for no reason?

 

And Roxio wiped out the history of the discussion groups at some point, and never bothered to restore it?

 

Thank you for making it clear what's going on here. I hope you will post the fix for others' sake, but I'm going to pass. I'd rather get rid of the program and replace it with one that is designed and supported by professionals rather than dingbats.

[grandpabruce]

>I worked out that by replacing each font name in the appropriate registry

>entry by "arial.ttf" I could delete the unwanted fonts and Roxio and the

>Auto-Repair thingy were none the wiser...

 

So the program doesn't actually use these fonts at all -- it just insists on installing them for no reason?

 

And Roxio wiped out the history of the discussion groups at some point, and never bothered to restore it?

 

Thank you for making it clear what's going on here. I hope you will post the fix for others' sake, but I'm going to pass. I'd rather get rid of the program and replace it with one that is designed and supported by professionals rather than dingbats.

 

Don't let the door hit you.........

[Guest mlpasley]

I'd rather get rid of the program and replace it with one that is designed and supported by professionals rather than dingbats.

 

If you want the 'professional', try Roxio Technical Support. Us dingbats are not employed by Roxio/Sonic.

[poutine]

If you want the 'professional', try Roxio Technical Support. Us dingbats are not employed by Roxio/Sonic.

 

I cant honestly see the problem with the fonts anyway, its not like youre forced to use them. I actually find them to be quite good in emails and posting generally as well as in its main photosuite uses etc.

Cant please everyone i guess.

[grandpabruce]

If you want the 'professional', try Roxio Technical Support. Us dingbats are not employed by Roxio/Sonic.

 

Speak for yourself about us being dingbats. Well, come to think of it, you are correct.

[chrisgl31415]

> So the program doesn't actually use these fonts at all -- it just insists on installing them for no reason?

 

 

I've no doubt that the fonts _are_ used, probably by templates for CD covers and so forth, but to _force_ the user to keep the fonts in the system is way over the top. I use Corel for Graphics and the standard install includes a set of fonts for use with templates and examples, but there is no issue if I choose to deinstall them - everything defaults to a standard font...

 

One reason I don't want to have the fonts is that even with XP, installed fonts use up resources so your system is likely to run better with fewer fonts... No point in arguing the subjective issue of how nice and universally useful the fonts are - or not.

 

 

 

> And Roxio wiped out the history of the discussion groups at some point, and never bothered to restore it?

 

Apparently that's what's happened - I think it wasn't intentional, but it's not very impressive. Whatever happened to 'backups'? The Fox Mulder might have something to say here <grin>

 

 

 

> I hope you will post the fix for others' sake, but I'm going to pass.

 

Don't blame you on that front - it was a time I'd rather have spent doing something useful!

 

I _can_ make the registry '.reg' file I have available BUT the entries are possibly randomly named (example: "05F0B453C01878E4E9817AEAB80FC773") and without access to a second installation to see what is held in the registry I can't be sure. There is the potential to cause serious problems...

 

BUT if you want to try it yourself:

 

You need a list of the ROXIO fonts (I've put my list at the end)

A backup of your registry unless you like living dangerously

A running copy of Regedit or a similar registry editing program. I use Registrar Registry Manager partly because it has undo facilities, but it's a paid for program

 

 

Then locate the entry for each Roxio font in the section

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Components\

 

and change the font name to arial.ttf

 

You MUST BE CAREFUL here as this section of the registry is used by the Windows File Protection mechanism and, whilst it is being a nuisance here, it _is_ a security feature for if certain things get corrupted or zapped

 

After that you can delete he fonts from the Windows Font directory - if you zap a Windows font by mistake, all being well, Windows File Protection will recover it for you

 

 

ANd all this because ROXIO probably can't work out how to make their templates default to a "standard" font if the intended font is missing. Bleah. I need a cup of tea and a sit down.

 

chris :-)

 

 

ROXIO 7 fonts - to be used as a checklist

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

ARNPRIOR.TTF

BAVEUSE.TTF

Berylibi.ttf

BERYLIUM.TTF

BLUEBOLD.TTF

BLUECOND.TTF

BLUEHIGD.TTF

BLUEHIGH.TTF

BLUEHIGL.TTF

BURNSTOW.TTF

CARBONBL.TTF

CREDITVA.TTF

CREDITVB.TTF

CREDITVI.TTF

CREDITVZ.TTF

EARWIGFA.TTF

HURRYUP.TTF

KREDIT1.TTF

KRYSTOID.ttf

MINYN___.TTF

MINYNB__.TTF

MINYNBI_.TTF

MINYNI__.TTF

NEUROPOL.TTF

PLANETBE.TTF

PUPCAT__.TTF

STEREOFI.TTF

SYBIG___.TTF

TEEN____.TTF

TEENBDIT.TTF

TEENBOLD.TTF

TEENITAL.TTF

TEENLITA.TTF

TEENLITE.TTF

VELVENDC.TTF

waker___.ttf

[Guest mlpasley]

Speak for yourself about us being dingbats. Well, come to think of it, you are correct.

 

Bruce,

 

I'm hoping you got the sarcasm in that post.

 

Since the poster posted here rather than contacting Roxio directly, I'm assuming that he includes himself as a dingbat. You know what they say..... "it takes one......"

 

OH WAIT! He got his copy free with his DVD burner, so he's stuck with having to go to the DVD burner manufacturer for tech support.

[grandpabruce]

Bruce,

 

I'm hoping you got the sarcasm in that post.

 

Since the poster posted here rather than contacting Roxio directly, I'm assuming that he includes himself as a dingbat. You know what they say..... "it takes one......"

 

OH WAIT! He got his copy free with his DVD burner, so he's stuck with having to go to the DVD burner manufacturer for tech support.

 

I certainly did get the sarcasm. lol

[Guest mlpasley]

EMC appears to have dug its claws into Windows permanently, and the only way I can get rid of all those extra fonts is to uninstall it.

 

Is there a better way?

 

Unfortunately, I don't think so. EMC7 needs those fonts and installs them automatically.