Burning an ISO to a DVD+R (Creator Basic v9)

[Mr. Pickle]

First off, I'm hoping this is the right place for this, because I don't know if Easy Media Creator 9 and Creator Basic v9 are the same thing.

 

Basically, when burning ISO's to a DVD+R, I have the option of switching between (ISO+Joliet), (ISO+Joliet+UDF), and (ISO Level 2). I've been trying to read up, but have been getting some mixed answers.

 

Which should I be using? I'm basically interested in what are the big differences, and which will provide the best compatibility with most DVD players.

 

 

 

While, I'm at it, I have these options, too:

TYPE:

Track at Once (TAO), Open

Track at Once (TAO), Closed

Disc at Once (DAO), Closed

 

MODE:

Mode 1

Mode 2 XA

 

 

 

This is all in Roxio Creator Basic v9

 

Care to help?

 

Thanks!

[tbrewst]

Isn't that what I said about 7 posts ago?

[grandpabruce]

Isn't that what I said about 7 posts ago?

 

Yes, it is, sort of.

[Brendon]

Mr. Pickle,

 

We're not allowed to help or encourage people to circumvent copyright laws, especially in/from the USA where it has been made a criminal offense, so for safety sake I can't discuss or help you with copyrighted files you might have downloaded. I hope you'll understand that.

 

On the other hand, I can help if you create a DVD from your own holiday videos. Looking at it in the drive, you'll find that it will have a folder called VIDEO_TS with a bunch of files in it.

 

The files in that VIDEO_TS folder will consist of a number of VOB [Video OBject] files, some corresponding .IFO control files, and backups of the IFOs, called .BUP files.

 

The VOBs and IFOs between them contain streams of video and audio that make up both your holiday footage and the menus you set up when you made your DVD. It's all there in those files. If you have been storing them on your hard drive and you burn them back to DVD ['burn from DVD folder'] with Disc Copier or IMGBurn, you will have a complete video DVD once more.

 

I trust this has helped your understanding?

 

Regards,

Brendon

[Mr. Pickle]

Alright guys, sorry for being difficult.

 

Thanks a lot for the help!

[grandpabruce]

Alright guys, sorry for being difficult.

 

Thanks a lot for the help!

 

You are welcome, and you weren't being difficult.

 

Did you get the .iso burned?

[james_hardin]

Aren't those details imposed on you by choices made when the ISO is being created?

 

I know when you're making an ISO for a DL disc with ImgBurn, you have to chose whether the burn is going to a plus or dash DL disc, and select the right profile for the type of disc before you can make the ISO. It has to do with selecting the right position for the layer jump to be placed.

 

It would be interesting to know what happens if you burn an ISO mastered for DVD+DL to a DVD-DL disc.

 

Can EMC 10 adjust the Layer Jump Location if you use the wrong type of disc?

Mr.Pickle,

May I suggest that until you have learned more of the intimate mechanics of these matters and how to tweak them, you don't change anything.

 

You've actually got it working, and should be very happy about that.

 

Regards,

Brendon

Brendon: I made an edit to that post to scratch the DL part.

 

You are correct that the ISO made for 'plus' DL can only be burned to a 'plus' DL disc.

 

Likewise the ISO made for a 'dash' DL, will only burn to a 'dash' DL disc.

 

This is true as far as the scope of this thread is concerned. – as you well know, some here will find a way to stand on their head and make that untrue…

[cdanteek]

Brendon: I made an edit to that post to scratch the DL part.

 

You are correct that the ISO made for 'plus' DL can only be burned to a 'plus' DL disc.

 

Likewise the ISO made for a 'dash' DL, will only burn to a 'dash' DL disc.

 

This is true as far as the scope of this thread is concerned. – as you well know, some here will find a way to stand on their head and make that untrue…

 

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you too, Mr. Hardin...

 

cd

[james_hardin]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you too, Mr. Hardin...

 

cd

cd: That remark was very generalized and not aimed at anyone in particular. Just there for the levity value…

 

A Merry Christmas to you too!

[Mr. Pickle]

No, I haven't tried any with ImgBurn yet. I'm waiting for more of them to finish.

 

(I'm downloading seasons 1-10 of South Park. [30 ISO's; 130 gigs])

[Brendon]

What I was alluding to was that you don't have to worry about matching 'plus', 'minus' or DL. Those details are taken care of by the burning program.

Aren't those details imposed on you by choices made when the ISO is being created?

 

I know when you're making an ISO for a DL disc with ImgBurn, you have to chose whether the burn is going to a plus or dash DL disc, and select the right profile for the type of disc before you can make the ISO. It has to do with selecting the right position for the layer jump to be placed.

 

It would be interesting to know what happens if you burn an ISO mastered for DVD+DL to a DVD-DL disc.

 

Can EMC 10 adjust the Layer Jump Location if you use the wrong type of disc?

 

 

Mr.Pickle,

May I suggest that until you have learned more of the intimate mechanics of these matters and how to tweak them, you don't change anything.

 

You've actually got it working, and should be very happy about that.

 

Regards,

Brendon

[james_hardin]

No, I haven't tried any with ImgBurn yet. I'm waiting for more of them to finish.

 

(I'm downloading seasons 1-10 of South Park. [30 ISO's; 130 gigs])

Now that is putting the horse before the cart…

[cdanteek]

I still say the settings you are going to get are the ones the ISO was made with.All you're doing is making a copy of that image.

I've never used ImgBurn but would that tab you're showing be used for creating an image,not copying one?

 

Isn't that what I said about 7 posts ago?

 

 

Burn settings come from the software not a ISO Image.

 

The tab he's showing is the write tab not the build tab..

 

Mr Hardin and I have been over this in detail before, he said there was no interest, perhaps there should of been...

 

cd

[james_hardin]

Thanks CD. Few of us are familiar with that program. Since we create our own ISO files in EMC, it would be of little use to most of us here.

 

Thinking about it, the burn 'settings' could not come from the ISO file or we would need one file for 'plus' media and another for 'dash' media, yet another for DL, etc…

 

I never did figure out how it worked one time then didn't later on!

 

PS: (If you want a little more fun and confusion, look at This thread!)

[james_hardin]

It is very hard to find in the Help Files but look under Search – "mode 2" – Data Options…

 

TAO Open is Session writing, allowing you to add files to the disc later (assumes room)

 

Mode 1 is for all writing except Enhanced CDs. (if you don't know what they are, you aren't using them)

 

ISO + Joliet (106 Characters) covers most situations although I switched to ISO Level 2 (212 characters) many years ago and never looked back!

[grandpabruce]

Burn settings come from the software not a ISO Image.

 

The tab he's showing is the write tab not the build tab..

 

Mr Hardin and I have been over this in detail before, he said there was no interest, perhaps there should of been...

 

cd

 

I think Terry was talking about bitrate settings, aspect ratio, etc. I know that I was. And those settings DO come from the ISO image.

[tbrewst]

Ok,now I'm confused.

Are you guys saying that if I have an ISO that is using one file system that when I use Disc Copier to make the disc I should have the ability to change the file system?

I thought that if one made a disc with the image that you would get an exact copy of that image,no changes.

[cdanteek]

First off, I'm hoping this is the right place for this, because I don't know if Easy Media Creator 9 and Creator Basic v9 are the same thing.

 

Basically, when burning ISO's to a DVD+R, I have the option of switching between (ISO+Joliet), (ISO+Joliet+UDF), and (ISO Level 2). I've been trying to read up, but have been getting some mixed answers.

 

Which should I be using? I'm basically interested in what are the big differences, and which will provide the best compatibility with most DVD players.

While, I'm at it, I have these options, too:

TYPE:

Track at Once (TAO), Open

Track at Once (TAO), Closed

Disc at Once (DAO), Closed

 

MODE:

Mode 1

Mode 2 XA

This is all in Roxio Creator Basic v9

 

Care to help?

 

Thanks!

 

Compliant DVD Video for use in settop player is UDF/ISO 9660 (mode1), Disc at Once (DAO), Closed. Creator Classic V 9 Retail won't do it either.

 

The copy ISO app your showing is a Sonic copy module not designed to burn DVD Video, you have no option in options for DVD Video settings. Does your version have Disc Copier to burn a compliant DVD Video? Start, all programs, Easy Media Creator 9, Copy, Disc Copier?

 

If not download this excellent free tool 'ImgBurn' is a lightweight CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application, Current version: 2.3.2.0 Released: 12th April 2007, download here. ImgBurn Support Forum > General > Guides.

 

It will burn your ISO or Video_ts folders, DVD Video compliant for use in settop DVD players!

 

cd

[tbrewst]

I don't think it matters because those options are for burning not copying.You're going to get a disc that has the properties of the original.If you watched,when you hit Burn Image to disc and then went to the bottom and hit Options it took you to the Copy section,not the Data section.

Now,if you were going to make the original and not a copy then those options would matter.

[james_hardin]

Ok,now I'm confused.

Are you guys saying that if I have an ISO that is using one file system that when I use Disc Copier to make the disc I should have the ability to change the file system?

I thought that if one made a disc with the image that you would get an exact copy of that image,no changes.

Nobody said anything about the File System… I was talking about the TYPE of disc.

 

I have not played with the DL discs (too expensive to play) but I believe if you make an ISO of one of those in MyDVD it will burn to a 4.7gb disc…

 

I am sure it will go the other way too (4.7 to 8.5) but I won't waste one to see…

[Mr. Pickle]

Mr. Pickle,

 

We're not allowed to help or encourage people to circumvent copyright laws, especially in/from the USA where it has been made a criminal offense, so for safety sake I can't discuss or help you with copyrighted files you might have downloaded. I hope you'll understand that.

 

Absolutely.

 

Thank you for your post, it cleared everything up.

 

 

EDIT: I have to ask one more thing. If I was to read something like this (see below), regardless of where I got it, does that refer to a reduction in quality?

 

"Reduction level for DVD-5: 80,7%"

 

 

 

EDIT II: I was thinking about getting some additional discs and I saw that you guys/girls were saying how an ISO made for a "dash" DL disc will only burn to a "dash" DL disc. Does this just apply to DL discs? I have DVD+R right now, and the few ISO's I have been burning to them seem to be working fine on my Xbox, (with the exception of one, but I'm thinking that might just be a problem with the file), but the new DVD's I was thinkging about getting were DVD-R.

 

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden...vd-r-media.html

or

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden...us-r-media.html

[Mr. Pickle]

Umm... huh? Everyone is strating to confuse me again.

[grandpabruce]

Umm... huh? Everyone is strating to confuse me again.

 

Since you don't have Disc Copier, just keep using ImgBurn to burn your .iso files, to a DVD, as a movie. Don't worry about the "drift" in this thread.

[Mr. Pickle]

Now that is putting the horse before the cart…

 

Well, I know they work when I do them with Roxio; I have tested a few of them. The whole purpose of this was just to find the options and whatnot that would supposedly provide the best compatibility and whatnot, because after I burn/copy them onto DVD's I have to delete them, because they just take up too much space.

 

Assuming that is what you meant with your post.

[Mr. Pickle]

Just to be clear, I'm downloading a ton of ISO's and am burning them to DVD+R's. The settings above work (I tested them with two different ISO's and everything plays and all menus work and whatnot), but I want the setting that will make the disc most compatible with most DVD players before I go through and burn all of them (about 30 in all).

 

I have recently been told that switching (Type to DAO) and (File System to ISO+Joliet+UDF) would be my best option. Can anyone back this?

[james_hardin]

Well, I know they work when I do them with Roxio; I have tested a few of them. The whole purpose of this was just to find the options and whatnot that would supposedly provide the best compatibility and whatnot, because after I burn/copy them onto DVD's I have to delete them, because they just take up too much space.

 

Assuming that is what you meant with your post.

That was exactly what I meant!

 

Some years back a poster spent days downloading (modem) files. Then came here and found out they were in a proprietary format and he would need a $300 program to convert them!

 

He then complained about all the 'time' he had spent downloading them, as if that was Roxio's fault…