hpleibo Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I just got EMC 8 and thought there was a function to rip the audio off a DVD and burn it on CD. I tried for hours last night and could not get it to work. Any suggestions? Hpleibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwcoffman Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 All commercial DVDs are encrypted. If it isn't a homemade DVD, then most likely it is encrypted. It is illegal in the US to sell software that breaks encryption so Roxio wouldn't be able to sell EMC8 in the US if it did. Wouldn't it be nice if they put up a dialog that said, "This is copy-protected material, you cannot do this", instead of just silently doing nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjharris Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I was able to get music files from a DVD a few weeks ago. This was a sampler DVD for a Broadway show that came in the mail, with scenes from the show and 2 or 3 songs. I don't know if the DVD was encrypted or not. As best I remember, I used music disc creator, chose audio CD and my dvd drive(on left), clicked movie(on right) and then import. Got the songs with no problem. I had seen these instructions on the Roxio forums a while back and finally wanted to try it. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I just got EMC 8 and thought there was a function to rip the audio off a DVD and burn it on CD. I tried for hours last night and could not get it to work. Any suggestions?Hpleibo I have not tried this but I believe that you go to Audio (choices on the left side of the home page) and select burn audio from Sound Card. You play the DVD and as it pays the program captures the audio from your sound card. Post back if this works/doesn't work to let other know if you have success or simply need more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerman Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I have not tried this but I believe that you go to Audio (choices on the left side of the home page) and select burn audio from Sound Card. You play the DVD and as it pays the program captures the audio from your sound card. Post back if this works/doesn't work to let other know if you have success or simply need more information. I tried DVD Music Asst. using the 'add tracks from cd or dvd' but could not get it to work but this was obviously a copyrighted dvd so that's likely why it didn't work but you can try with your dvd and see if you get anywhere. Or, is that the same way you tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patatrox Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I tried DVD Music Asst. using the 'add tracks from cd or dvd' but could not get it to work but this was obviously a copyrighted dvd so that's likely why it didn't work but you can try with your dvd and see if you get anywhere. Or, is that the same way you tried? Correct, the function to capture audio directly from a DVD only works with DVD-Video discs which are not protected or css encrypted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catigers1 Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 How do you know the DVD is not encrypted? Just did a test to import the audio froma DVD I had created. Launched Media Import, select the Audio tab, then my drive containing the DVD and theh 3 different tracks (titles) on the DVD. Hit Import now and after a few minutes I had 3 mp3 files of the audio from the selected titles. No problems whatsoever. I would say there is no bug in the EMC 8 software. O do not have to copy any vobs, do any conversion etc. I know these 8 discs were un-encrypted because: 1. I made them myself from analog sources 2. These files can be easily converted using ISofter's Tool which has encrypted video protection built in. 3. Roxio will, with a great deal of pain and workarounds, allow me to convert and import the DVD video files to an MPEG file on my hard drive and then I can extract the audio from the Roxio created MPEG file. All I can say is that with 8 different discs, created on different recorders/burning drives, when competitor's products work, means, at best Roxio has done a poor job of testing this "feature" with various discs, burners/recorders, and PCs (Compaq, 2.4GHz Pentium 4, 533FSB, 300GB HDDs, 1GB RAM, double layer burn capable 16x DVD drive). I have also tried to extract from files that I copied on to my HDD first (from various unencrypted DVDs) and still get the same result. Getting a "READ ERROR" with no other info from Roxio is useless. How come I don't get a "READ ERROR" when I import/convert it first to an MPEG file using EMC8, if this isn't a bug? Looks like a bug, smells like a bug, probably is a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catigers1 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Just because you cannot rip the audio from your DVDs does not mean the there is a bug. I have had no problems ripping audio from several DVDs that I created. Kjharris in his post also reported no problems. Since we don't know what program created those DVDs we can't really make any further guesses why it doesn't work. Ok, lets be clear multiple sources means I have recorded various analog non-copyright protected programs as well as home videos using my PC with 3 different DVD drives and various vendor DVD disc media running both NERO, and ULEAD. I also have a DVD recorder (think VCR) attached to analog cable tv inputs which uses DVD+R and DVD+RW only. Before someone says its the discs/or burner remember that EMC8 will successfully import and convert the DVD vob files to mpeg files. And Cineplayer will play these discs with no problem. But try to extract audio from the VOB file directly - and it fails. As a new update to this saga, I copied the VOB files to my HDD. I then renamed the VOB files as MPEG using standard Windows XP tools (no special program). I did nothing else , thus, the info in the files is still an exact copy of what is on the DVD. I then was able to successully extract audio from the MPEG files using EMC8. So this is a time saving workaround from what I had to do before. But still sub-par for what I should be able to do. If I use other competitor's DVD ripping software e.g. ISofter, Media Twins' AC3 Decoder 1.2.5 and a few others, I can successfully rip/extract audio from these same discs using their trial versions and don't have to go through extra steps. About my only complaint is that I would prefer to not have to use yet another niche tool. And with the exception of ISofter's DVD Ripper, I found that some programs yielded sub-optimal audio fidelity. At this point, I'd go buy their software but I have already paid for EMC8 and have no apparent way to get my money back from the retailer. So what I would think most folks would take from this story is other programs work where Roxio EMC8 forces several other steps and does not work as advertised, in all cases and my set up shouldn't be too unusual. In my book, and in my business, we call that a bug.... I am not arguing that other folks may have had success, but Roxio's testing clearly did not address all situations. And given that EMC8 will work, if you use these cluges, it means that there is a way for Roxio to fix this problem and provide a better piece of s/w to its customers. If someone on this thread is a Roxio engineer, I'd be happy to work with you to resolve this issue. But lets first admit there is a problem or suggest some steps to narrow / isolate the problem. Remember the only message I get from EMC8 when I try to do a direct extraction from DVD (VOB) to WAV is a "Read Error". This error message pops up almost immediately after executing the process. But I don't get any error of any sort if convert VOB to MPEG using EMC8 and then extract audio from MPEG. So if its a read error, its not the drive or the disc..... Its a function of the code used to go straight from VOB to WAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 All commercial DVDs are encrypted. If it isn't a homemade DVD, then most likely it is encrypted. It is illegal in the US to sell software that breaks encryption so Roxio wouldn't be able to sell EMC8 in the US if it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I know these 8 discs were un-encrypted because: 1. I made them myself from analog sources 2. These files can be easily converted using ISofter's Tool which has encrypted video protection built in. 3. Roxio will, with a great deal of pain and workarounds, allow me to convert and import the DVD video files to an MPEG file on my hard drive and then I can extract the audio from the Roxio created MPEG file. All I can say is that with 8 different discs, created on different recorders/burning drives, when competitor's products work, means, at best Roxio has done a poor job of testing this "feature" with various discs, burners/recorders, and PCs (Compaq, 2.4GHz Pentium 4, 533FSB, 300GB HDDs, 1GB RAM, double layer burn capable 16x DVD drive). I have also tried to extract from files that I copied on to my HDD first (from various unencrypted DVDs) and still get the same result. Getting a "READ ERROR" with no other info from Roxio is useless. How come I don't get a "READ ERROR" when I import/convert it first to an MPEG file using EMC8, if this isn't a bug? Looks like a bug, smells like a bug, probably is a bug. Just because you cannot rip the audio from your DVDs does not mean the there is a bug. I have had no problems ripping audio from several DVDs that I created. Kjharris in his post also reported no problems. Since we don't know what program created those DVDs we can't really make any further guesses why it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpleibo Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 How do I know if the DVD is encrypted? I downloaded A1 DVD audio ripper and it easily ripped the audio off the dvd that roxio would not. hpleibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Perhaps you checked the don't show me again box. It is there. Wouldn't it be nice if they put up a dialog that said, "This is copy-protected material, you cannot do this", instead of just silently doing nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I'm not sure if this is the correct way to do it but you can: 1-open Music Disc Creator 2-Chose AudioCD 3-Highlight your DVD drive in the left pane 4-Click on Movie in the right pane 5-Hit ok When you do a box pops up and you can chose the format and destination you want.This will create a file on your harddrive.It will be one continuous recording.I would think if you record it in .wav format you could use Sound Editor to break it up into tracks.I don't know guys,what do you think? You can also look in the help files under Audio:extracting from video files for a way to extract from seperate files on the disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catigers1 Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Having tried to extract audio from about 8 UNENCRYPTED DVDs using Roxio, I can officially say there is a bug in the software! I have had multiple successes using Isofter's DVDtoMP3 DVD audio ripper which does much more than the name implies. Has anyone had real success with Roxio EMC8 using the Media Import or other tools???? I had to go through a ton of steps to extract DVD audio using Roxio and non of the "prescribed" ways worked. First I had to import the DVD file (.VOB) and convert it to MPEG (or Divx, etc.). Then I had to use media selector to select the imported MPG file and then extract the audio and convert it to WAV. If you try this on ~approximately 2 hours of unencrypted DVD video content, be prepared, this is at least a 2 hour process, when you include splitting tracks, etc. Compared to other competitors products this is what I was able to do: Extract straight from the .VOB DVD file (in the Video TS folder of the DVD video) to MP3, WAV or WMA. I did not have to copy/imiport the VOB and convert/store it on my hard drive and then extract the audio from the MPEG file. This was THE feature I bought/upgraded to Roxio EMC8 for in hopes of finally consolidating CD/DVD burning functions in one program. I have EMC5, 6, 7, and NERO 6,7 as well as other products from ULEAD, ISofter, Cirlinca. Unless Roxio or someone who reads this reply fixes this problem and maybe adds support for recording DVD-A formatted discs (like Cirlinca), this will likely be the last time I buy a Roxio product. I am feeling very ripped off - this is an Advertised Feature "Extract Audio from Live Concert (unencrypted) DVDs". The workaround I have stumbled on after a good 8 hours of effort is hardly worthy of it being called a feature in the face of several competitors products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 tbrewst - just left out one step Click 'Import from CD/DVD' However as Patrick pointed out, this does not work on an encrypted DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Having tried to extract audio from about 8 UNENCRYPTED DVDs using Roxio, I can officially say there is a bug in the software! I have had multiple successes using Isofter's DVDtoMP3 DVD audio ripper which does much more than the name implies. Has anyone had real success with Roxio EMC8 using the Media Import or other tools???? I had to go through a ton of steps to extract DVD audio using Roxio and non of the "prescribed" ways worked. First I had to import the DVD file (.VOB) and convert it to MPEG (or Divx, etc.). Then I had to use media selector to select the imported MPG file and then extract the audio and convert it to WAV. If you try this on ~approximately 2 hours of unencrypted DVD video content, be prepared, this is at least a 2 hour process, when you include splitting tracks, etc. Compared to other competitors products this is what I was able to do: Extract straight from the .VOB DVD file (in the Video TS folder of the DVD video) to MP3, WAV or WMA. I did not have to copy/imiport the VOB and convert/store it on my hard drive and then extract the audio from the MPEG file. This was THE feature I bought/upgraded to Roxio EMC8 for in hopes of finally consolidating CD/DVD burning functions in one program. I have EMC5, 6, 7, and NERO 6,7 as well as other products from ULEAD, ISofter, Cirlinca. Unless Roxio or someone who reads this reply fixes this problem and maybe adds support for recording DVD-A formatted discs (like Cirlinca), this will likely be the last time I buy a Roxio product. I am feeling very ripped off - this is an Advertised Feature "Extract Audio from Live Concert (unencrypted) DVDs". The workaround I have stumbled on after a good 8 hours of effort is hardly worthy of it being called a feature in the face of several competitors products. How do you know the DVD is not encrypted? Just did a test to import the audio froma DVD I had created. Launched Media Import, select the Audio tab, then my drive containing the DVD and theh 3 different tracks (titles) on the DVD. Hit Import now and after a few minutes I had 3 mp3 files of the audio from the selected titles. No problems whatsoever. I would say there is no bug in the EMC 8 software. O do not have to copy any vobs, do any conversion etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 OOOOOOPS ,I wrote these steps down as I was looking at them and just forgot to type that one.And yep I agree about the encrypted stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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