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The 'quality' should be less, in theory, but I have never met anyone who can honestly see a bit of difference on a TV at 12 feet…

 

Try both and see which one works for you.

 

I noticed the loss of quality on a Sony standard def 36" TV from 12'. I created my first DVD on EMC9 which consisted of 2 30 min movies captured from my Sony DV camcorder via firewire. I come from My DVD 5.2 so to fit on a 4.7G DVD I am used to selecting MPEG2. I selected MPEG2 then captured the clip and stopped. I then added the second clip by starting the capture fresh. But this time I neglected to set any options as I assumed it was already set as MPEG 2?

 

When I burned to DVD I noticed that on the first 30 min movie, there was noticeable pixelation on peoples faces (shadows, contrast, movement) and pixelation on shadows and movement. It was clearly isolated and not on the otherwise crisp DV tape. I then watched the second movie and it was as clear as the tape, no pixelation. I didn't know what was wrong?

 

Later I checked each clip and the first was MPEG 2 and the second DV AVI, and yet they both fit on the 60 min DVD. The meter read 'custom'. Does EMC9 automaticaly compress DV to fit on the DVD? IF so I will stick with it from now on.

 

Peter

 

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Your question, assuming I actually found one in there, had nothing to do with the thread you posted in.

 

In MyDVD you have to SET the quality or it will default to a lesser quality.

 

A DVD holds 1 hour of a DVD Movie at high quality. Anymore than that and quality is sacrificed for fit.

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I noticed the loss of quality on a Sony standard def 36" TV from 12'. I created my first DVD on EMC9 which consisted of 2 30 min movies captured from my Sony DV camcorder via firewire. I come from My DVD 5.2 so to fit on a 4.7G DVD I am used to selecting MPEG2. I selected MPEG2 then captured the clip and stopped. I then added the second clip by starting the capture fresh. But this time I neglected to set any options as I assumed it was already set as MPEG 2?

 

When I burned to DVD I noticed that on the first 30 min movie, there was noticeable pixelation on peoples faces (shadows, contrast, movement) and pixelation on shadows and movement. It was clearly isolated and not on the otherwise crisp DV tape. I then watched the second movie and it was as clear as the tape, no pixelation. I didn't know what was wrong?

 

Later I checked each clip and the first was MPEG 2 and the second DV AVI, and yet they both fit on the 60 min DVD. The meter read 'custom'. Does EMC9 automaticaly compress DV to fit on the DVD? IF so I will stick with it from now on.

 

Peter

 

In general, all video on a DVD is mpeg2, 720x480, 29.7fps for NTSC. The source video does not matter it will all be converted during rendering. So if any pixelation shows up on the DVD it was introduced when capturing. To get the best quality, it is generally recommended to capture to DV avi which is closest to the original. When capturing to mpeg2 from the tape, the video is compressed and may well have to be uncompressed and recompressed before its ready for burning to a DVD.

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In addition to what Walt and Jim said, in MyDVD, always set to HQ (High Quality), no matter what the length in time the production is. Then, when you burn, uncheck the Burn to DVD box, and check either the Burn image file or Folder Set. Pick a name and folder location for the file to burn to, then click Burn.

 

Once all is done, save your production, close MyDVD, open Disc Copier, and under the Source drop down box, pick the option to browse to your folder. Now, browse to that folder, and bring in the file you just burned, and burn it to a DVD. Disc Copier will make the video fit on a standard DVD, if the production is more than an hour long. Otherwise, it won't have to compress it. If your production is less than an hour long, and you see a notification that it is compressing, that is a bug in the software. It isn't actually compressing.

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Your question, assuming I actually found one in there, had nothing to do with the thread you posted in.

 

In MyDVD you have to SET the quality or it will default to a lesser quality.

 

A DVD holds 1 hour of a DVD Movie at high quality. Anymore than that and quality is sacrificed for fit.

 

"In general, all video on a DVD is mpeg2, 720x480, 29.7fps for NTSC. The source video does not matter it will all be converted during rendering. So if any pixelation shows up on the DVD it was introduced when capturing. To get the best quality, it is generally recommended to capture to DV avi which is closest to the original. When capturing to mpeg2 from the tape, the video is compressed and may well have to be uncompressed and recompressed before its ready for burning to a DVD."

 

What I might have done is select MPEG2 before capturing that first 30 min clip (as I used to do in MyDVD5). Does that make more sense? When I captured the second clip I did not make any changes I just started dubbing and clicked capture. It automatically captured this as DV AVI. I recall setting the selection in the lower right corner to either SP or HQ knowing I had about an hour on the DVD. I added 2 slideshows and when I clicked burn I noticed that the selector now said 'Custom' and the meter was past SP almost at HQ. Only after viewing the DVD did I notice the poor quality of the first clip and the second clip was perfect. I then checked properties of them and noticed the difference in format between the clips.

 

I guess my question is if I capture a 1 hour DVD as DV AVI, will it fit on the 4.7GB DVD? Set the selector to "HQ" and it will fit it on DVD on its own setting the quality?

 

Thanks,

Peter

 

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"In general, all video on a DVD is mpeg2, 720x480, 29.7fps for NTSC. The source video does not matter it will all be converted during rendering. So if any pixelation shows up on the DVD it was introduced when capturing. To get the best quality, it is generally recommended to capture to DV avi which is closest to the original. When capturing to mpeg2 from the tape, the video is compressed and may well have to be uncompressed and recompressed before its ready for burning to a DVD."

 

What I might have done is select MPEG2 before capturing that first 30 min clip (as I used to do in MyDVD5). Does that make more sense? When I captured the second clip I did not make any changes I just started dubbing and clicked capture. It automatically captured this as DV AVI. I recall setting the selection in the lower right corner to either SP or HQ knowing I had about an hour on the DVD. I added 2 slideshows and when I clicked burn I noticed that the selector now said 'Custom' and the meter was past SP almost at HQ. Only after viewing the DVD did I notice the poor quality of the first clip and the second clip was perfect. I then checked properties of them and noticed the difference in format between the clips.

 

I guess my question is if I capture a 1 hour DVD as DV AVI, will it fit on the 4.7GB DVD? Set the selector to "HQ" and it will fit it on DVD on its own setting the quality?

 

Thanks,

Peter

 

Yes, and if it is over an hour long, keep the setting at HQ, as per my last post.

 

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Thank You! Most of my projects I keep to an hour, but if I run long I will try your method.

 

For most folks, burning to an image (.iso) file or Folder Set works out best, no matter how long the production is. Then, if you want to make more than one copy of the production, you simply burn that image file, or folder set, to as many discs as you want. You won't have to go through the agony of taking the time for the render/encoding again.

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For most folks, burning to an image (.iso) file or Folder Set works out best, no matter how long the production is. Then, if you want to make more than one copy of the production, you simply burn that image file, or folder set, to as many discs as you want. You won't have to go through the agony of taking the time for the render/encoding again.

 

Grandpabruce,

 

I saved as the iso file as you suggested. However, in my original project when I saved it as a DVD, I went thru the process of creating menus and submenus with chapter points at the desired locations. Then I tweaked the text and after saving the project and burning to DVD all works ok. When I save as an iso and burn to DVD, there are NO Menus just the movie.

 

Did I forget a step? Is it possible to save the menus on the iso file? If I have to go thru the trouble each time of recreating the menu and chapter points this method may not be worth the time savings, but may have archival value.

 

Thanks,

Peter

 

 

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Grandpabruce,

 

I saved as the iso file as you suggested. However, in my original project when I saved it as a DVD, I went thru the process of creating menus and submenus with chapter points at the desired locations. Then I tweaked the text and after saving the project and burning to DVD all works ok. When I save as an iso and burn to DVD, there are NO Menus just the movie.

 

Did I forget a step? Is it possible to save the menus on the iso file? If I have to go thru the trouble each time of recreating the menu and chapter points this method may not be worth the time savings, but may have archival value.

 

Thanks,

Peter

 

The .iso file contains your menus. In Disc Copier, you need to click on the CD & Copy DVD tab. If you click on the Video Compilation tab, you won't get your menus when you burn.

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