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I have installed ECM 10 on my desktop.

 

In running the program, it instructed me do download programs I cared less about. I downloaded and installed anyway.

 

When I created a Slideshow, and wanted a Quick Preview, it gave me error message "Video Card may not fully support Directx9.0". It instructed me to check for updated drivers for my Video Card. I did check, but could not solve the problem. The Graphics was on the motherboard.

 

I purchased and installed a ATI Radeon X1050 Graphics Card (RAM 256.00 MB). After installing the Card, when I wanted to preview a Slide Show, I received a message "unspecified error". I then tried to save to file, and received a message "Unable to Render Graph".

 

I went to ATI and installed the latest drivers, un-installed (using the Add/Remove Programs) and installed ECM 10 three times. I changed the Create a Slide Show Options, Render using Hardware or Software, with no change. Using the graphics test, I received a message "The render method has been switched to software, based on known capability of your Video Card."

 

What impacts "Unable to Render Graph", does someone have a solution?

 

I am open for suggestions.

 

I installed the ECM 10 on my laptop (ATI Radeon 9600), everything appears to work fine.

 

 

The Desktop is as follows:

 

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

System Manufacturer Compaq Presario 061

System Model PJ518AA-ABA SR1230NX NA440

System Type X86-based PC

Processor x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0 AuthenticAMD ~2199 Mhz

BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies, LTD 3.10, 7/26/2004

 

 

VIDEO:

 

Name ATI Radeon X1050

PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4152&SUBSYS_30001002&REV_00\4&1FEB96E4&0&0008

Adapter Type ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x4152), ATI Technologies Inc. compatible

Adapter Description ATI Radeon X1050

Adapter RAM 256.00 MB (268,435,456 bytes)

Installed Drivers ati2dvag.dll

Driver Version 6.14.10.6764

 

 

I/O Port 0x0000A000-0x0000AFFF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller

I/O Port 0x0000A000-0x0000AFFF ATI Radeon X1050

 

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

 

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ATI Radeon X1050

 

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller

 

IRQ 16 ATI Radeon X1050

IRQ 16 Intel® 536EP Modem

 

Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xDFFFFFFF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller

Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xDFFFFFFF ATI Radeon X1050

 

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF ATI Radeon X1050

 

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ATI Radeon X1050

 

 

IRQ 0 System timer OK

IRQ 1 Enhanced Mulmedia PS/2 Keyboard OK

IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK

IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK

IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK

IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK

IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK

IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK

IRQ 16 ATI Radeon X1050 OK

IRQ 16 Intel® 536EP Modem OK

IRQ 19 VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller OK

IRQ 20 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK

IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK

IRQ 21 VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller OK

IRQ 22 Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA ® Audio Controller OK

IRQ 23 VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter OK

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Here's a screen shot. Keep in mind that your screens may be a bit different depending on your exact card.

 

I have an ATI Radeon 256mb X1300 video card. From the day I got it, it always suggested I use software render, however,

 

I have never had a problem with any burns using hardware rendering even though it tells me not to.

 

Where and what tells you software render for your card?

 

I'm using these old drivers and videowave a MyDVD both default to hardware.

 

Driver Packaging Version 8.282-060802a-035722C-ATI

 

CATALYST® Version 06.8

 

This is the advanced view not basic view.

 

aticontrolcenter.png

 

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I am not doing so good. I went to Roxio (on my laptop) to review the Ticket. When I logged in, I got this:

 

Server Error in '/' Application.

Unable to validate data.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

 

Exception Details: System.Web.HttpException: Unable to validate data.

 

Source Error:

 

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

 

Stack Trace:

 

[HttpException (0x80004005): Unable to validate data.]

System.Web.Configuration.MachineKey.GetDecodedData(Byte[] buf, Byte[] modifier, Int32 start, Int32 length, Int32& dataLength) +194

System.Web.UI.LosFormatter.Deserialize(String input) +60

 

[HttpException (0x80004005): Authentication of viewstate failed. 1) If this is a cluster, edit <machineKey> configuration so all servers use the same validationKey and validation algorithm. AutoGenerate cannot be used in a cluster. 2) Viewstate can only be posted back to the same page. 3) The viewstate for this page might be corrupted.]

System.Web.UI.LosFormatter.Deserialize(String input) +118

System.Web.UI.Page.LoadPageStateFromPersistenceMedium() +101

 

[HttpException (0x80004005): Invalid_Viewstate

Client IP: 75.208.84.158

Port: 16673

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12

ViewState: dDwyMDE2NTMyNDY2O3Q8O2w8aTwyPjs+O2w8dDw7bDxpPDE+O2k8Mz47aTw3PjtpPDExPjtpPDE1Pjtp

PDE3PjtpPDE5Pjs+O2w8dDxwPGw8VGV4dDs+O2w8Q29udGFjdCBSb3hpbyBDdXN0b21lciBDYXJlOz4+O

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1mzWsAJDjbp549r3ad8

Http-Referer: https://selfserve.roxio.com/login.aspx?cult...d7-f3d3ef19a994

Path: /login.aspx.]

System.Web.UI.Page.LoadPageStateFromPersistenceMedium() +442

System.Web.UI.Page.LoadPageViewState() +18

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +447

 

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I am giving up on the ATI Graphics Cards. I went over to the ATI Forum. It appears ATI has been having problems with the drivers. I am returning the card in the AM. I will post on the results.

 

 

Wayne

 

 

Wayne, I have to give you credit for your patience and calm attitude through all of this! clap.gif Most break under the strain! :)

 

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As cd suggested:

 

 

I Disabled the anti virus software.

 

I uninstalled the 'VIA/S3G display driver' and the ATI display driver, from the contol panel.

 

I uninstalled everything named ATI in add remove programs.

 

I Rebooted. The found new hardware wizard launched. I cancel it. I previously downloaded and have the newer AtI drivers on the hard drive. I installed the AVI driver and software.

 

I went to videowave, ran the graphics test. I received a message saying I had insufficient graphic capabilities. From the slideshow preview, I received a unknown error message .

 

The bios does show the ATI card as AGP, not PCI.

 

 

I am going to return the ATI Card today. I think possibly the card has issues.

 

 

Wayne

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Wayne, I have to give you credit for your patience and calm attitude through all of this! clap.gif Most break under the strain! :)

 

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Patience hell, I want to kill somebody, I am just not sure whom yet.

 

The desktop is my wife’s computer. We have had some tense moments, but we shall endeavor to persevere. I heard that somewhere.

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As cd suggested:

 

 

I Disabled the anti virus software.

 

I uninstalled the 'VIA/S3G display driver' and the ATI display driver, from the contol panel.

 

I uninstalled everything named ATI in add remove programs.

 

I Rebooted. The found new hardware wizard launched. I cancel it. I previously downloaded and have the newer AtI drivers on the hard drive. I installed the AVI driver and software.

 

I went to videowave, ran the graphics test. I received a message saying I had insufficient graphic capabilities. From the slideshow preview, I received a unknown error message .

 

The bios does show the ATI card as AGP, not PCI.

 

 

I am going to return the ATI Card today. I think possibly the card has issues.

 

 

Wayne

 

Did you reboot after installing the ATI drivers?

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I am giving up on the ATI Graphics Cards. I went over to the ATI Forum. It appears ATI has been having problems with the drivers. I am returning the card in the AM. I will post on the results.

 

 

Wayne

 

Wayne, I installed the HD 3870 card a couple of days ago. I haven't tried any work in the Roxio suite, but I do have a slug of artifacts in a somewhat old golf sim. I have tried 3 or 4 different Catalyst drivers, and none have cured the artifact problem.

 

I don't get the message that you got, in VideoWave and MyDVD, and there is no way that you should be getting that message, if the DirectX is up to date.

 

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Grapic Adapter Priority, that setting was PCI/AGP or AGP/PCI?

I do not see this in the BIOS

 

Below that setting do you have a, Grapics Aperture size setting? What is it set to?

I do not see this in the BIOS

 

 

In the Bios under the advanced tab do you show onboard devices configuration, check it for onboard video chip, Enable, Disable.

 

Under "Primary Video Adapter", it had PCI or AGP/Onboard as choices. It was set at PCI. I changed it to AGP/Onboard.

 

 

Did you exit the bios, save changes, then restarts?

 

Yes

 

 

What was the onboard video?

It did not say, unless you are referring to the "Primary Video Adapter". If so, It was set at PCI. I changed it to AGP/Onboard.

 

Check add remove programs for software , and drivers.

 

As far as I can tell, in add remove programs, the only software and/or drivers were for ATI, with one exception. There is a VIA/S3G display driver.

 

 

Wayne

 

 

The Geeks at Best Buy! :lol: You uninstall and disable onboard grapics and audio when a dedicated card is added. Disable your anti virus software and uninstall both the 'VIA/S3G display driver' and the ATI display driver, contol panel, anything named ATI in add remove programs. Reboot and the found new hardware wizard launches, cancel it, download and have the newer Ati drivers on the hard drive and navigate to them and install, with your anti virus software disabled after the reboot. Go into videowave and run the grapics test and see what we get now.

 

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As I previously stated, I will be away from my desktop for a couple of days, but on the net with my laptop. I expect to be back to it Thursday PM, for sure Friday. I appreciate the time and help that has been provided.

 

Oh yea, the Geeks at Best Buy aren't much, but tech support at Roxio have not proven to be any better. Typically, I find people on the forums that know more.

 

I will try what you suggested, and post the findings.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Wayne

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You also might want to check the connections on that AGP card when you get home.

 

I put one in on a computer and had strange error messages. Finally, I took the cover off and found that it wasn't seated properly. Unfortunately, the computer had installed the video card, but it wasn't working properly.

 

The installation disk should install the proper drivers, but cd's suggestions will ensure it's installed correctly.

 

You've checked to make certain that your computer meet the specifications on the video card box, right?

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Where and what tells you software render for your card?

 

I'm using these old drivers and videowave a MyDVD both default to hardware.

 

Driver Packaging Version 8.282-060802a-035722C-ATI

 

CATALYST® Version 06.8

 

This is the advanced view not basic view.

 

aticontrolcenter.png

 

cd

 

My screen looks like yours. The card is set as follows:

 

Under 3D-Standard Settings, it is set to "balance", between appearance and performance.

 

Under 3D-Anti-Aliasing is checked on "use application settings".

 

Under 3D-Adaptive Anti-Aliasing, setting is "enable anti-aliasing".

 

Under 3D-Anisotrotic Filtering are checked on "use application settings".

 

Under 3D-All Settings, both Anti-Aliasing and Anisotrotic Filtering are checked on "use application settings".

 

 

Under Rendering, I have tried both Hardware and Software for the Graphic Test. Both give a "Unspecified Error" message.

 

 

I cannot find Isotropic filtering.

 

 

I did update Directx9 from the Microsoft website.

 

 

 

Wayne

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My screen looks like yours. The card is set as follows:

 

Under 3D-Standard Settings, it is set to "balance", between appearance and performance.

 

Under 3D-Anti-Aliasing is checked on "use application settings".

 

Under 3D-Adaptive Anti-Aliasing, setting is "enable anti-aliasing".

 

Under 3D-Anisotrotic Filtering are checked on "use application settings".

 

Under 3D-All Settings, both Anti-Aliasing and Anisotrotic Filtering are checked on "use application settings".

 

 

Under Rendering, I have tried both Hardware and Software for the Graphic Test. Both give a "Unspecified Error" message.

 

 

I cannot find Isotropic filtering.

 

 

I did update Directx9 from the Microsoft website.

 

 

 

Wayne

 

"Under 3D-Adaptive Anti-Aliasing, setting is "enable anti-aliasing" Mine Unchecked, I'll check it and test it.

 

Under 3D-All Settings, both Anti-Aliasing and Anisotrotic Filtering are checked on "use application settings". Thats SmoothVision HD Anti-Aliasing and SmoothVision HD Anisotrotic Filtering, Mine are checked let application decide.

 

Under API I have Support DXT Texture Formats checked.

Under MipMap Detail Filtering, is set to quality, all the way to the right.

Catalyst AI, all the way to the left not checked.

 

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Yes, I did reboot after installing the ATI drivers.

 

 

I just returned from Best Buy. I took the tower. They checked it out, and they think the card was bad.

 

I got the ATI Radeon VisionTec HD 2600 PRO, 8x. It has 512 MB DDR2 Memory. They did not have another ATI Radeon X1050 Graphics Card in stock. From what I understand, the 2600 is a lot more card than I need. It is even supposed to work. If it does, that will be an improvement.

 

I will install it tonight or in the AM.

 

 

Wayne

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I gotta say, between the software and graphic card, about $200. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is sad. In my laptop, it works OK, desktop, no.

 

 

Wayne

 

There are a couple of things you can try in the Roxio Knowledgebase on the main support page here: http://www.roxio.com/enu/support/default.html

 

In the KNOWLEDGEBASE search box, type ' unable to build the render graph '

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GOT'ER DONE!!!!!! :lol:

 

I went over to the ATI Forum. I posted my problem. I recieved the following response:

 

"Yes, Catalyst 8.2 doesn't have support for 2xxx series on AGP, only first release of Catalyst 8.1, but now, the best driver for Radeon HD2xxx series is the latest Omega Drivers 4.8.442 You can download it from:

http://files.filefront.com/ati...359843;/fileinfo.html

With this driver You will not artefacts in DirectX, and all DirectX games will be playable without artefacts, because all Catalyst Drivers caouse many artefacts in DirectX games"

 

 

 

I downloaded and installed Omega Drivers 4.8.442 (from: http://files.filefront.com/ati...359843;/fileinfo.html). This was after uninstalling the ATI stuff. It worked the first try.

 

If there is something in the EMC10 that does not work, I have not found it after I installed Omega Drivers 4.8.442.

 

 

Thanks for the help. I learned far more than I wanted, but I am so tickled I could eat a bug. I will post this on the trouble ticket.

 

 

Wayne

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