Update On My "situation"

[my7551]

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[grandpabruce]

If you are speaking to the "untidy" shut-down then reboot to "windows checking disc," this happens as a normal thing and I am not concerned with it. It's OK with me.

 

If you are speaking to the system-crash while tring to use the DVD/video components of EMC8, then it ONLY happens with EMC8 and I have/had a LOT of programs w/ no problems.

 

After EXTENSIVE "trys" in computer-cleaning, THE problem has been narrowed to:

I bought the first-out store-box version that REQUIRES the 114MB fix.

I have ordered amd paid for the repair CD from Sonic (Canada) OVER two weeks ago and it has yet to arrive.

 

I am reserving final judgement untill I receive the fix and install it.

There is NOTHING more I intend to do to my computer's harware since it now EXCEEDS all System Requirements for EMC8 (actually, I met or exceeded S.R. prior to my first install but this site has revealed "other" things, above and beyond box-stated S.R.)

 

note: EMC8 INSTALLED perfectly. It failed to run (for me).

Getting it running is what it is now all about.

 

I wish the heck I lived near you, so I could drop over and have a look. That is the problem with trying to troubleshoot on the internet. A person just can't see the computer over the net.

[tep585]

Wow!

Looks like you have enough gear to fly a 747 or launch an ICBM!

But no. I don't think that plugging this or that in and out is a worthwhile project.

I'm just going to continue watching this board and maybe someday something will "click."

Actually, other than storage space, my system is obsolete by today's standards. I just wanted you to see that the crash problem occurs no matter what the configuration.

Good luck and nice chatting with you.

[my7551]

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[my7551]

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[my7551]

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[grandpabruce]

Thanks for the offer but I'm pretty sure I have a "solid" machine.

Heck, I even got "Lindows" to work (If you havn't tried Lindows, don't bother).

 

At this point, I'm VERY sure I got an "unworkable" early (?) version of the product.

The yet-to-arrive fix CD should (?) take care of it.

 

After all this, I'm expecting 2gig re-codes in 5 minutes and 4gig burns in 10 minutes.

 

LOL!

[my7551]

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[d_deweywright]

The game that is afoot is getting this consumer-oriented EMC8 up and running on today's hardware.

Much like the axiom, "Expenses will rise to exceed income" (What?! You never heard that? Oh, probably because it's my own.) is... "New software will be written to require the latest hardware and memory to run well." Just a sad fact.

[tep585]

Thanks for the how-2 for x-ref. I'll give it a try in the other place to get here.

 

Why here?

Well, may as well end the tale in General.

 

I decided not to wait until tomorrow.

I had all the new CDs, computer clean, defraged, Optimized, Registry clean, nothing running, and I was ready to go.

 

Inserted my new Program CD, ran "Custom" install, and everything went perfectly.

Rebooted and clicked on Videowave.

It came up.

I told Registration "Later."

Clicked on "add media."

Selected a small video file off my hard drive and,

POOF!

Windows shut down, reboot, "Windows checking disk," "Windows has recovered from a serious error."

 

De ja vous all over again!

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So, used "Settings," Remove Program, to delete EMC8.

That worked, sort of.

Rebooted and had a chat with my, now, Old Friend: REGEDIT.

 

About a dozen Sonic License entries were still there.

Roxio and Sonic entries were all over.

Items that I did select to NOT add during "Custom" install were in the Registry (Media Mgr, etc...).

 

So, I deleted the lot.

Rebooted, re-checked and all are gone.

 

Re-installed Nero 6 Ultra (w/updates).

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Now, there are those that MAY say I have a bum machine.

If my Intel D845GBV motherboard, P4 2.4, new GeForce video card, Ultra DMA hard drives, Viewsonic P815, Memorex dual Layer DVD, and up-to-the week XP Pro can't meet EMC8's needs, gee, I wonder what can?

 

I tend to suspect EMC8 software just isn't up to snuff.

For those that have it working; more power to you.

 

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

 

Hi my7551,

I've been reading your posts for months with hopes that someone could offer a solution to your problems. So far I haven't seen one. I'm posting now to let you know that I have experienced the same system crashes, not only with Videowave, but with the CinePlayer as well. My system configuration (other than Windows XP) is nothing like yours. I won't go into detail because at this time I'm not asking for help from the resident "experts" on this forum.

Just wanted you to know that others share your problems and concerns with EMC 8.

If I ever figure out what's causing the incompatability issue, I'll repost.

One last comment:

I also experience immediate crash when attempting to capture video using the EMC 8 capture/import function. My capture device is the ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 AGP graphics card.

Good luck, and you have a right to be angry.

[my7551]

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[grandpabruce]

Wait a minute. What Scandisk are you talking about. Windows XP does not do that when it recovers from an error. There is no Scandisk in XP. Did you mean to say something else?

 

This is as frustrating for those of us trying to help, as it is for you. ;(

[my7551]

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[Beerman]

Wait a minute. What Scandisk are you talking about. Windows XP does not do that when it recovers from an error. There is no Scandisk in XP. Did you mean to say something else?

 

This is as frustrating for those of us trying to help, as it is for you. ;(

There is, kinda, sorta. If you right click your drive in Windows Explorer and choose Properties/Tools you can do an error check. It works much like Scandisk. Maybe that's what he's talking about.

[my7551]

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[grandpabruce]

Sorry bout that. Old Names stick in the head.

It is, whtever it is, that comes up after an improper (?) shudown that says

"Windows is going to check your disk...you have 8, 7, 6 seconds..."

Then it does the 20%...40%...etc....

and finaly says windows found 15 clusters (whatever) and made them into files (FOUND 0001) in root C, then tells me that there are X-allowcation usits, etc...describes the HD.

 

I suppose this thing has a real name, but for lack of knowing it, I used/use Scandisk.

 

I have never seen that since I have started using Windows XP. What operating system are you using?

 

Also, do this. Shut down your computer completely, and then boot up again. I am actually hoping that it will do the scan again, before it boots up. Just do it, and post here whether or not it scans again.

[my7551]

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[Beerman]

Sorry bout that. Old Names stick in the head.

It is, whtever it is, that comes up after an improper (?) shudown that says

"Windows is going to check your disk...you have 8, 7, 6 seconds..."

Then it does the 20%...40%...etc....

and finaly says windows found 15 clusters (whatever) and made them into files (FOUND 0001) in root C, then tells me that there are X-allowcation usits, etc...describes the HD.

 

I suppose this thing has a real name, but for lack of knowing it, I used/use Scandisk.

Do you have a Disc Utility program installed? Sounds like Partition Magic or something similar. Sometimes it there's a problem with your drive, XP checks it on boot up.

You should do some cleanup work on your drive and make a back up. You never know if this could be the beginning of the end of your drive.

[ogdens]

Cross-ref:

 

See "good Install" in Instalation. Today.

 

 

When you are trying to cross reference just put in the url for it, eg...... http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=3943

[grandpabruce]

There is, kinda, sorta. If you right click your drive in Windows Explorer and choose Properties/Tools you can do an error check. It works much like Scandisk. Maybe that's what he's talking about.

 

I know about that Paul, but it is not the same as it was in Windows 98 and ME. In XP, it is rare that you will get the chkdsk when trying to boot up. If you do get it, it will happen every time that you boot up, unless you use cmd.exe, after you boot up, to do a chkdsk. It will involve unmounting your main partition, and it is a simple thing to do.

 

In Windows 98 and ME, if the computer shut down improperly, it would always do a scandisk when booting up, but it would only happen once, unless you had another improper shutdown.

[my7551]

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[grandpabruce]

If empowered, how about turning off the pre-view stuff for a half-hour?

 

It is most dificult to chat back and forth when there is ONLY a forth and no back.

 

IF I swear or spit, I guess the "empowered ones" also have a delete-ability....

 

We don't have the ability to keep your posts from being invisible. That power is beyond our capabilities.

[my7551]

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[The Highlander]

"Nero" hath returned! (less packet writing).

 

Shame.... well at least in your terms and issue we did try...

wish you luck, but in a last comment to you, don't throw it away, wait and sometime later on when the wife lets you upgrade to Cable or DSL then you may be able to re-look at this with the current service pack that you then will be able to download...

have fun and keep smiling..

[grandpabruce]

No sweat. What is; is.

Anyhow, EMC8 aside, when you-guy's machines get "improperly shut down," you DON'T see/get "checking your disc for errors?"

 

I didn't upgrade to XP but did a new install (a year ago) on a new HD and a new computer. All went well. I have weekly done Microsoft's update and SP2 is on with now problems. DirectX (YES, 9C) is present.

 

I have had no, or minor, problems.

I do have Norton, but got rid of AntiVirus months ago.

 

I don't see any reason (I might be blind) that this whole thing should not have been simple...

 

Are you running XP? If you are, then it is not normal for you to get the chkdsk scan at bootup. You need to answer the questions that I have asked you, or I can't help, and I will just bow out of here.

[my7551]

The saga continues, but this is more in the "chew the fat" than anything, so if this is TOO general and inapropriate, please delete.

 

I stowed EMC8 in my bottom drawer.

Maybe, someday, I'll have another go.

 

I returned to Nero 6 Ultra, but, now that I'm in "fiddle" mode, I bought Nero 7.

 

To put Nero 7 on, it erases Nero 6.

I did a Custom install and a few comparisons w/EMC8:

You don't "have to" install the Lablemaker but you do have to install the virtual drive. Wierd? vice-versa?

You don't "have to" register but if you wish to, you get led down an easy path.

You get a seperate "Tutorial" CD. I havn't looked at it.

The Nero install and the EMC8 install are equaly easy and both do good.

 

OK. So I get Nero 7 on and it works

but, (I just can't leave well-enough alone)

I go look for, and find, Nero updates.

 

Expecting to find a 7.1a to 7.1b type deal, I found a REAL mess.

 

Nero has an Update gizmo within the Home function.

You're supposed to be on the web, click this button, and it will go fetch updates.

Well, it does just that

but

you are not allowed to pick and choose which program within the suite to update.

You have to take EVERYTHING!

So, unwittingly I clicked OK.

 

The resulting download is 5MB (not nice for my dial up) but I sat here for ages keeping AT&T from turning me off as idle and got it.

 

So, here I am on the web, and the thing tells me it has to reboot to do its install-thing; click here.

I do so.

So my machine reboots, but before windows opens, up pops a Nero screen saying I have to be connected to the web to complete the update.

Of course I have no way to get on the web except through windows.

I can do NOTHING except re-re-boot.

 

So I do and the Nero installer has, like it said it would, erased EVERTHING, to include the new Nero 7!

There is no trace that it was ever installed!

 

Bummer!

 

So, I start over and install Nero 7.

 

I return to Nero.com and read ALL the details.

 

Other than using their Update gizmo, I'm given the option of downloading the WHOLE Nero 7 with the 7.1a - 7.1b type updates included in each program.

This is way-over 200MB!

 

I guess I'm posting this here so fingers CAN be pointed (in both directions) on UPGRADES in general.

After all these years, nobody has got it "right."