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Cd Spin Doctor Fails W/ Leopard


John_D

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Before upgrading to Leopard, Mac OS 10.5.x, I had been happily using CD Spin Doctor 3 to rip LPs from my USB turntable. While I had CD Spin Dr. 4, it was not working well. v.4's most excellent filters, very necessary for ripping LPs, would playback with much distortion. While the final audio files would render fine, I couldn't audition the effects of CD Spin Dr. 4's filters.

 

I've done a clean install of Leopard and find that while Spin Doctor 3 captures perfectly, it fails and crashes when I attempt to playback a track, requiring a Force Quit. Spin Dr. 4 still has the distorted filter bug, and is thus unhelpful.

 

Is there a solution? I'm looking at buying Toast 9, but I don't want to shell for a product that doesn't actually work, no offense intended.

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Hi John..thanks for the update. Sounds like Toast 9 with CD SD v5 will in the very least be better than what I have now which is a pile of frustration. After upgrading to the Leopard OS and upgrading the spin doctor for Leopard (per request of the Roxio Tech) It has been nothing but a headache. Perhaps if I dump all toast and CD SD apps into the trash and go buy Toast 9 and install I can get back to work transfering my vinyl. it sucks to spend more $ but I will if it actually works. Is there any other files I need to delete or just dragging toast 8 to the trash work? I suspect that this might be one of my problems (that when I am working a previous version of CD SD is detected throwing it all out of whack) I am not a computer whiz and this is my first Mac..I only bought the macbook to accomplish the vinyl transfer and since have fallin' in love with it (even with its quircks). Do I need to drag any other folders to the trash before installing Toast 9? Thanks for your insight.

I'll jump in for John. You don't need to delete any of Toast 8 or Spin Doctor when you install Toast 9. In fact, sometimes it's good to have the previous version available in case there is a bug in the early release of the next version that affects something you want to do. To be sure that the old Spin Doctor is not interfering all you need to do is trash the com.roxio.deepseasoftware.CDSpinDoctor.plist file that is in your User>Library>Preferences folder. That shouldn't be necessary, either, because the new version will overwrite it.

 

I've used the new Spin Doctor with Toast 9 a couple times and it is by far the best yet. No problems so far.

 

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Thanks for the info all...wow CD SD 5 buggy already..dang I was hoping it was a magic bullet. I guess I will give it a try though. Anyone have any insight on the quicktime issue. i heard that perhaps quick time was causing conflict with CD SD 4. I was hoping 5 would be the fix.

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Thanks for the info all...wow CD SD 5 buggy already..dang I was hoping it was a magic bullet. I guess I will give it a try though. Anyone have any insight on the quicktime issue. i heard that perhaps quick time was causing conflict with CD SD 4. I was hoping 5 would be the fix.

 

dj,

I've been able to use CD Spin Dr. 5, crash-free now, with the affected file(s) by going under File > Save A Copy. I would try this with your CD SP v.4 files as well. Re-opening the Copy file, I've been able to Save textual data to the new file, and have it reappear when re-opening the Copy file, as well as use the resultant Filtered copy after applying the filters

 

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Before upgrading to Leopard, Mac OS 10.5.x, I had been happily using CD Spin Doctor 3 to rip LPs from my USB turntable. While I had CD Spin Dr. 4, it was not working well. v.4's most excellent filters, very necessary for ripping LPs, would playback with much distortion. While the final audio files would render fine, I couldn't audition the effects of CD Spin Dr. 4's filters.

 

I've done a clean install of Leopard and find that while Spin Doctor 3 captures perfectly, it fails and crashes when I attempt to playback a track, requiring a Force Quit. Spin Dr. 4 still has the distorted filter bug, and is thus unhelpful.

 

Is there a solution? I'm looking at buying Toast 9, but I don't want to shell for a product that doesn't actually work, no offense intended.

 

 

You are not the only one with these problems. My version of spin doctor (4) does the same thing and its gotten so bad I cant even get through one song without the distortion coming into it and I have to cancel the recording. I have an open ticket with Roxio and am hoping someone can help with this problem. I spent a hundred bucks for toast 8 and would happily shell out the dough for Toast 9 if I knew it would fix the bugs and work properly. I love how easy it is to use when it actually works. There are more threads on this issue but no one seems to have a magic bullet and Roxio seems to care little about helping there customers with a legitimate problem. Good luck my friend and if you find a way to fix these bugs let me know. My email is ethylpump66@yahoo.com of course I am also watching th boards. Very Frustrating.

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You are not the only one with these problems. My version of spin doctor (4) does the same thing and its gotten so bad I cant even get through one song without the distortion coming into it and I have to cancel the recording. I have an open ticket with Roxio and am hoping someone can help with this problem. I spent a hundred bucks for toast 8 and would happily shell out the dough for Toast 9 if I knew it would fix the bugs and work properly. I love how easy it is to use when it actually works. There are more threads on this issue but no one seems to have a magic bullet and Roxio seems to care little about helping there customers with a legitimate problem. Good luck my friend and if you find a way to fix these bugs let me know. My email is ethylpump66@yahoo.com of course I am also watching th boards. Very Frustrating.

 

Hi dj,

Thanks for the commiseration. The good news is the bad news. Spin Doctor 5 w/ Toast 9 solved my problems with both earlier versions. I've been able to rip LPs today (I do love the program over competing ones; you're warned Bias, et al.). Playback worked fine (my complaint with v.3), and filters previewed correctly (my problem with v.4).

 

I did have some weirdness whereby my newly rendered filtered file opened in CD SD v. 5 minus all track selections and laboriously entered data. Trying to Auto Select the tracks produced a crash.

 

I believe, however, this may have been caused by user error of a sort; I'd first inadvertently re-opened the original rip file (with filter choices) in CD SD v.4 (I hate the way the program quits when you close a file). I'd simply double clicked on the original to re-open it, and CD SD v.4 launched instead, for some reason, despite the file's creator (v.5.). I finally dumped my previous versions of the program, re-opened the file in v.5 and split the tracks again, re-entered the data, and exported to iTunes.

 

Good luck, I don't think it's quite fair that v.4 is inoperable; it should work correctly with Tiger, 10.4. Still, the current upgrade deal seemed a reasonably fair price if you can part with it. Ah, the joys of a new Mac OS upgrade.

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Gentlemen,

 

I have experienced some of the same problems, but also different ones. My main objective has been to record vinyl LPs and import them to iTunes.

 

I upgraded to Toast 8 about a month ago in order to get CD Spin Doctor 4 (CDSD4), because I discovered (the hard way) that neither CDSD3 (which I bought separately) nor CDSD2 (which came with Toast 6) would work with Leopard (OS X v 10.5). [bTW, CDSD2 continues to operate just fine with my old Mac running OS X v 10.3.9]

 

CDSD4 seemed to solve most of my troubles. I have not experienced the bad sound problem you have mentioned. However, I have had other problems. The application is unstable, ie., it crashes quite often (eg. When opening a recording that is fairly large, say 90 min., or immediately after doing the Auto Define Tracks command). I have even found that certain recorded files simply will not open, period. CDSD4 appears to begin opening the file and then just quits.

 

Suddenly I have a new, worse problem. This began exactly after I performed a Mac software update of Leopard around March 9. I am certain that whatever was in that Mac update has caused CDSD4 to be even more quirky. Now when I open files that were previously saved with all the tracks defined, the tracks are GONE! I have tried redoing the tracks, saving the changes, closing the file, then reopening the file, and again: NO tracks!

 

A nice feature of CDSD4 over v2 was that when applying filters to a file where the tracks are already defined, v4 retains the tracks whereas v2 wipes them out. This is a big plus, because it allows one to play around with different filters and hear the effect without having to redo the tracks. HOWEVER, since the Mac software update, CDSD4 now acts like v2: Applying filters will create a new file (if "copy file" is selected) with NO tracks.

 

So now I have to go through a sound file making tracks manually, and immediately send the tracks to iTunes, hoping CDSD4 will not crash before I'm done. Bottom line: Once I start editing a file I have to finish it in that sitting.

 

I am not about to spend more money upgrading to Toast 9 unless I can be certain that all these problems will be solved by doing so.

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As tsantee indicated, I used the "blunt object" approach for eliminating the wrong application launching. I wouldn't throw anything out unless this was a problem for you too, or follow tsantee's .plist approach.

 

The news isn't getting better. CD Spin Doctor 5 with Toast 9 is already starting to bug out. With a fresh wipe install of Leopard, my second session with the software was a failure. After meticulously adding precise track sectors, track names, artist info, date info, album title, etc. my newly rendered filtered file bounced back without any data of any kind. As well the waveform representation was totally weird looking, although it played back correctly. Attempts to Auto Select the tracks (and start entering data from scratch) produced crashes.

 

I restart after these crashes, to make sure there's no corruption in the buffers. I've returned to the initial rip file to find all my data missing, re-enter data, rerender the filter file, only to repeat the problems listed in the above paragraph. Very disappointed.

 

 

Hi John..thanks for the update. Sounds like Toast 9 with CD SD v5 will in the very least be better than what I have now which is a pile of frustration. After upgrading to the Leopard OS and upgrading the spin doctor for Leopard (per request of the Roxio Tech) It has been nothing but a headache. Perhaps if I dump all toast and CD SD apps into the trash and go buy Toast 9 and install I can get back to work transfering my vinyl. it sucks to spend more $ but I will if it actually works. Is there any other files I need to delete or just dragging toast 8 to the trash work? I suspect that this might be one of my problems (that when I am working a previous version of CD SD is detected throwing it all out of whack) I am not a computer whiz and this is my first Mac..I only bought the macbook to accomplish the vinyl transfer and since have fallin' in love with it (even with its quircks). Do I need to drag any other folders to the trash before installing Toast 9? Thanks for your insight.

 

This is by far a better way to go. Still, now CD SP 5 is misbehaving (see above Reply).

 

Thanks for jumping in, tsantee.

 

I'll jump in for John. You don't need to delete any of Toast 8 or Spin Doctor when you install Toast 9. In fact, sometimes it's good to have the previous version available in case there is a bug in the early release of the next version that affects something you want to do. To be sure that the old Spin Doctor is not interfering all you need to do is trash the com.roxio.deepseasoftware.CDSpinDoctor.plist file that is in your User>Library>Preferences folder. That shouldn't be necessary, either, because the new version will overwrite it.

 

I've used the new Spin Doctor with Toast 9 a couple times and it is by far the best yet. No problems so far.

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Hi dj,

Thanks for the commiseration. The good news is the bad news. Spin Doctor 5 w/ Toast 9 solved my problems with both earlier versions. I've been able to rip LPs today (I do love the program over competing ones; you're warned Bias, et al.). Playback worked fine (my complaint with v.3), and filters previewed correctly (my problem with v.4).

 

I did have some weirdness whereby my newly rendered filtered file opened in CD SD v. 5 minus all track selections and laboriously entered data. Trying to Auto Select the tracks produced a crash.

 

I believe, however, this may have been caused by user error of a sort; I'd first inadvertently re-opened the original rip file (with filter choices) in CD SD v.4 (I hate the way the program quits when you close a file). I'd simply double clicked on the original to re-open it, and CD SD v.4 launched instead, for some reason, despite the file's creator (v.5.). I finally dumped my previous versions of the program, re-opened the file in v.5 and split the tracks again, re-entered the data, and exported to iTunes.

 

Good luck, I don't think it's quite fair that v.4 is inoperable; it should work correctly with Tiger, 10.4. Still, the current upgrade deal seemed a reasonably fair price if you can part with it. Ah, the joys of a new Mac OS upgrade.

 

 

Hi John..thanks for the update. Sounds like Toast 9 with CD SD v5 will in the very least be better than what I have now which is a pile of frustration. After upgrading to the Leopard OS and upgrading the spin doctor for Leopard (per request of the Roxio Tech) It has been nothing but a headache. Perhaps if I dump all toast and CD SD apps into the trash and go buy Toast 9 and install I can get back to work transfering my vinyl. it sucks to spend more $ but I will if it actually works. Is there any other files I need to delete or just dragging toast 8 to the trash work? I suspect that this might be one of my problems (that when I am working a previous version of CD SD is detected throwing it all out of whack) I am not a computer whiz and this is my first Mac..I only bought the macbook to accomplish the vinyl transfer and since have fallin' in love with it (even with its quircks). Do I need to drag any other folders to the trash before installing Toast 9? Thanks for your insight.

 

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