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HELP HELP HELP HELP!!!! I have been tearing my hair out ever since I purchased Toast 9 Titanium. I primarily bought it to convert TV shows that I record on my TiVo to DVD's. Some of the files began by multiplexing and then burned within a few minutes. On the other hand, the majority of the .tivo files encode themselves which takes over 2 hours to burn an hour-long show. I have the preferences set to "Never re-encode" but for some reason, I cannot multiplex the files instead. I have read many discussion threads in this forum, TiVo's forum, and Apple's forum. The majority of the messages suggested that by using Popcorn 3 instead of Toast 9, I could multiplex the files and have my dvd created in a few minutes. So, I paid Roxio another $50 to save my "valuable" time. However.... when I tried burning .tivo files to a dvd, I got the same horrific Toast encoding wait period. Can anyone out there help me and save what little hair and sanity I have left. Are there other settings in the preferences I need to adjust to drastically reduce the dvd burn time for .tivo files???

 

Additionally, as I installed Toast 9 before installing Popcorn 3, the .tivo files attempt to play using the older "Toast Video Player" that comes with Popcorn 3. As soon as the player opens, it crashes and closes. I cannot set my computer to open the .tivo files actually using Toast's video player instead of the "Toast Video Player" that comes with Popcorn. It tells me that I do not have permission to change that setting for this file type. I have had it with Roxio's antics and I need help in the worst possible way. Thank you to anyone who can help me....

 

-Josh

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I feel your pain. Trying to get TiVo or EyeTV files to burn successfully to a DVD has been like wrestling an alligator. I have been trying to burn HD files in the "Blu-ray" mode to conventional DVDs -- like you, I have re-encode set to "never," and some discs have actually worked. However, more often than not, the resulting disc plays back as just a mass of pixelation. I cant find the reason that some files work, and some don't -- I've had success and failure with both 720p and 1080i source material.

 

I used to get the "encoding" step quite often, but would cancel it because I knew it was going to take forever. Suddenly, it stopped trying to do that step. Now it goes from "multiplexing" to "filling the RAM cache," to "writing." For a full 4.7Gb disc, it takes about 15 minutes to burn. Then into the Blu-ray player it goes to check the results. Usually, the disc ends up in the trash.

 

I would think that *I* am doing something wrong, except sometimes it WORKS! Frustrating? Yes, yes it is.

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I feel your pain. Trying to get TiVo or EyeTV files to burn successfully to a DVD has been like wrestling an alligator. I have been trying to burn HD files in the "Blu-ray" mode to conventional DVDs -- like you, I have re-encode set to "never," and some discs have actually worked. However, more often than not, the resulting disc plays back as just a mass of pixelation. I cant find the reason that some files work, and some don't -- I've had success and failure with both 720p and 1080i source material.

 

I used to get the "encoding" step quite often, but would cancel it because I knew it was going to take forever. Suddenly, it stopped trying to do that step. Now it goes from "multiplexing" to "filling the RAM cache," to "writing." For a full 4.7Gb disc, it takes about 15 minutes to burn. Then into the Blu-ray player it goes to check the results. Usually, the disc ends up in the trash.

 

I would think that *I* am doing something wrong, except sometimes it WORKS! Frustrating? Yes, yes it is.

 

 

not sure how you can burn BD on DVD without encoding and works...

 

 

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It is hard to pin down why some TiVo transfers multiplex and some want to be encoded. Today, I just spent a little time transferring 4 episodes of The Tudors from my Tivo to burn to a DVD. I edited each episode to trim the previews before and after. When I was happy with my project, I clicked the RED button to start getting it on a DVD. Right away, Toast 9 started ENCODING rather than Multiplexing. I cancelled and checked my settings. Sure enough, I had it set to NEVER reencode, but when I tried again, it was once more encoding. I cancelled again.

 

Then I started a fresh project in Toast 9 with the same videos but this time I did not edit them with Toast Video Player. When I clicked on the RED button, Toast 9 started multiplexing them and the whole DVD was finished in a few minutes. I checked the disc in a Toshiba DVD player and it looks good. I would have liked to have been able to edit the episodes but better to have my video high quality by multiplexing than lower quality with the encoding. Encoding does take hours also.

 

One would conclude that editing the video is causing them to encode rather than multiplex, but I have edited other videos that multiplexed.

 

BTW, I was told by a Roxio technician that the TiVo files are not standard mpeg2 and if you multiplex them, they may play fine on some DVD players but look odd on others. That is true. I get jumpy video on one of my DVD players from multiplexed TiVo files. But it looks perfect on another player.

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not sure how you can burn BD on DVD without encoding and works...

 

I don't know either, but it works. After many experiments, I've found that I can always get successful results with 720p material. With 1080i recordings, the video occasionally pixellates, there's a freeze-frame every three seconds or so. This happens with material transferred from TiVo, or recordings made with EyeTV. In both cases, there's no re-encoding going on -- once I hit the "burn" button, it goes from "multiplexing" to "filling RAM cache" to writing. I have a finished disc in about 15 minutes.

 

 

 

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