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How To Get Multiple Audio/language Tracks On A Video Dvd?

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Hi all,

 

I am a user of Roxio Toast (Titanium) since Toast 7. Now I am using Toast 9 and I still did not figure out a way to burn a movie with multiple audio tracks on a single video DVD. I also tried a lot of search queries here and on Google without success so my last hope is to get an answer here by starting this new topic.

 

The issue is the following: I have a Dreambox that records DVB-S transport streams in the .ts format. They sometimes contain multiple audio tracks, e.g. German and French or English and German Dolby Digital surround sound. I can easily change the tracks and listen to all of them without problems (on the Dreambox and on the Mac). Now, when I try to burn such movies on a video DVD using Toast (no matter which version) it only allows me to select ONE of these audio tracks. I have not yet discovered an option that allows me to put ALL of the audio tracks on the video DVD so that I can later select the audio track(s) with my DVD player remote while playing the DVD.

 

Does anyone know how to accomplish this? I have done this several times using open source software (on the terminal) without any problems so I expect that an expensive software package like Toast 9 Titanium ("expensive" compared to free open source software) should be able to do such a thing with ease. Or am I wrong here?

 

Thanks in advance for any answer & Best Regards, Stefan.

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I think you will be able to simply record the video to the DVD. Toast won't create menu options for language selection, but you should be able to select the language using the playback controls on the DVD player.

 

Can you walk me through your steps when using Toast? Maybe that will help me see where things are going wrong.

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Can you walk me through your steps when using Toast? Maybe that will help me see where things are going wrong.

 

Thank you for your reply! I will try to explain how I do this. Actually, I tried many different approaches. One of them is this one (and the easiest I could find): I take the transport stream file from the DreamBox, load it into "MPEG Streamclip", trim it there and output/export the stream as TS (transport stream) again. Then I go to Toast 9 Titanium, create a "Video DVD" with a menu, add the TS file (it is inserted there no problem), and use the following settings (I hope I get the translation right, my version is German): "use own encoding", video format MPEG-2, never re-encode, audio: Dolby Digital automatic.

 

Now, when I see/edit the added video/TS file I have a drop-down box for the audio tracks and I can select each one without problem - but only one. What I am missing is a way to select "All" in that drop-down box for the audio tracks.

 

Another thing I tried was to use "MPEG Streamclip" and export/convert the file into "MPEG-2" or "MPEG-2 with MP2 audio" or to "demux" it and then import/add these files to the DVD in Toast. However, the result was always the same: It just accepted one single audio track and not more. For example, when I wanted - let's say - to have an English Dolby Digital (AC3) surround sound track and a German stereo sound track combined on a single DVD it would not let me choose it. I can select only a single audio track for each video file. Maybe the problem is with the menus? I didn't yet try to create a DVD without a menu using Toast... But how can the menu be the problem?!

 

For reference, here is what I do to get a DVD video with two audio tracks using Open Source software:

 

- demux the TS stream into separate video and audio parts, let's say movie.m2v (video), movie.mp2 (stereo audio), movie.ac3 (surround) using "MPEG Streamclip" or "ProjectX".

- use mplex to get an MPEG again: mplex -f 8 -o movie.mpeg movie.m2v movie.mp2 movie.ac3

- use dvdauthor to create the DVD (VIDEO_TS), e.g. without chapters: mkdir /tmp/dvd; cd /tmp; dvdauthor -t -a mp2+de,ac3+de -v 16:9+720x576 -o dvd movie.mpeg; dvdauthor -T -o dvd

- use growisofs to create an image, e.g.: cd /tmp/dvd; mkisofs -dvd-video -o ../dvd-movie-image.iso .

- (burn the image to DVD)

 

I think the last two steps can be skipped by using Toast's VIDEO_TS burning feature but I still listed it for completeness. After this process and the DVD is finished I have a DVD (without menus) with multiple audio tracks that I can simply choose by using my DVD player's remote control - no problem. But just using Toast (to have a nicely layouted DVD with menus instead) does not seem to work for me; even if I try to demux the file first (as I said above) and then feed it to Toast... Or at least I did not find the proper way yet.

 

I appreciate any kind of help.

 

Thanks & Best Regards, Stefan.

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Hmm well, if you get a drop-down box to select the audio track and you cannot select "All" then Toast my not allow you do make the disc the way you want it. I'll pass this on as a feature request and hopefully it can get worked into an upcoming version.

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Hmm well, if you get a drop-down box to select the audio track and you cannot select "All" then Toast my not allow you do make the disc the way you want it. I'll pass this on as a feature request and hopefully it can get worked into an upcoming version.

 

Yes, this is exactly my problem: Toast does not allow me to make the disc the way I want it. I wonder why, though, because this way of setting up a (multi-audio track) DVD should be considered to be a very "ordinary" usecase...

Thanks for passing on my request. In the meantime I guess I will have to use my Open Source software and stop using Toast for the time being... Oh well...

 

Best Regards, Stefan.

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My understanding is that as long as you don't select either of them you'll get both as long as Toast doesn't do any re-encoding of the MPEG 2 file.

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My understanding is that as long as you don't select either of them you'll get both as long as Toast doesn't do any re-encoding of the MPEG 2 file.

 

Well, I would really like to do that but somehow it would not let me - or at least I don't know how to accomplish that.

 

Whenever I add a file to Toast it displays the video and (selected) audio properties and the first audio track of the file is always pre-selected so when I do not select another one it simply takes the first one. But maybe this is just a "display issue" and it is not really what will be put onto the DVD? I will try it out and let you know ASAP.

 

Thanks!

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Well, I would really like to do that but somehow it would not let me - or at least I don't know how to accomplish that.

 

Whenever I add a file to Toast it displays the video and (selected) audio properties and the first audio track of the file is always pre-selected so when I do not select another one it simply takes the first one. But maybe this is just a "display issue" and it is not really what will be put onto the DVD? I will try it out and let you know ASAP.

 

Thanks!

I don't think I've seen what you're seeing when adding video to Toast. Going back to the description of your process, after demuxing the TS stream add the .m2v file to the Video window. Toast will ask you to locate the matching audio file (unless it is already named the same as the video except for the extension in which case Toast automatically finds the matching audio stream). Does this work?

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I don't think I've seen what you're seeing when adding video to Toast. Going back to the description of your process, after demuxing the TS stream add the .m2v file to the Video window. Toast will ask you to locate the matching audio file (unless it is already named the same as the video except for the extension in which case Toast automatically finds the matching audio stream). Does this work?

 

Yes, this works as well, of course. It usually automatically finds the matching audio stream because it is named the same. However, and that is the problem, it only finds/accepts/adds ONE audio stream. When I demux a TS stream with multiple audio tracks I get several audio files, e.g. two with a ".m2a" extension (German and English stereo sound, let's say) and one ".ac3" file (with a German DD surround track, for example) but in Toast I can always only add one of them. What I need is a feature to add all the audio tracks that I want to a matching video file.

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Yes, this works as well, of course. It usually automatically finds the matching audio stream because it is named the same. However, and that is the problem, it only finds/accepts/adds ONE audio stream. When I demux a TS stream with multiple audio tracks I get several audio files, e.g. two with a ".m2a" extension (German and English stereo sound, let's say) and one ".ac3" file (with a German DD surround track, for example) but in Toast I can always only add one of them. What I need is a feature to add all the audio tracks that I want to a matching video file.

You are correct that Toast only accepts one audio stream. My guess is your only options are either a professional authoring application or to make multiple DVDs with each individual audio track that you want.

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You are correct that Toast only accepts one audio stream. My guess is your only options are either a professional authoring application or to make multiple DVDs with each individual audio track that you want.

 

Yes, that is my feeling as well. However, I can do this easily with a set of Open Source software tools (see initial post) and for free, therefore I still think that Toast - as a commercial application - should provide this functionality as well. I consider it a "standard feature" and it somehow depresses me that I spent so much money on Toast now (Toast 7, 8, and 9 - with "upgrades" costing almost as much as a new purchase...) and there is still no sign of such a feature. I think I will have to skip the next release of Toast unless it explicitly mentions this feature as being supported - finally...

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Well, since Toast 10 is out now, here's my question: Does it finally support multiple audio tracks on a single DVD? If yes, I will buy it. If no, then I won't (too many disappointments, see thread). Unfortunately I could not find any relevant information on that topic on the website... Thanks for any answer!

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Of course one option would be to select one of the audio track in TOAST, then add again the video track but this time select the OTHER audio track in TOAST for the second video track. This would allow you to have two audio tracks on one DVD, albeit also two video tracks!

 

Works for me. This way I can have an ARTE broadcasting in French and German on one DVD.

 

MN

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