vid2man97 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I got tired of sharing my computer with my wife so I bought her a laptop. I don't know who's happier, her or me lol. Anyway, I got a deal where it could be "rolled back" to xp-pro sp3 from vista business, so I thought we'd start out with that and go to back to vista in the future if she wanted. The thing is that wmp11 is on it and she's not fond of it. That's part of why she liked the xp option, having everything just 'the way she liked it'. I've read many posts about uninstalling, and noticed links in some signatures even. Big help. But I still have a few questions. Uninstalling is not so much that as actually "rolling back" to a previous version? You mean, wmp10 is actually there in xp, just over ridden for now by ver.11? I don't actually have to install ver.10 after "uninstalling" ver.11? I appreciate any advice as I don't want to "break" my wife's new computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWAGON Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I got tired of sharing my computer with my wife so I bought her a laptop. I don't know who's happier, her or me lol. Anyway, I got a deal where it could be "rolled back" to xp-pro sp3 from vista business, so I thought we'd start out with that and go to back to vista in the future if she wanted. The thing is that wmp11 is on it and she's not fond of it. That's part of why she liked the xp option, having everything just 'the way she liked it'. I've read many posts about uninstalling, and noticed links in some signatures even. Big help. But I still have a few questions. Uninstalling is not so much that as actually "rolling back" to a previous version? You mean, wmp10 is actually there in xp, just over ridden for now by ver.11? I don't actually have to install ver.10 after "uninstalling" ver.11? I appreciate any advice as I don't want to "break" my wife's new computer. I realize that this IS a General chat forum, but I suggest that you would most likely get a solid answer from the Microsoft Users group forum. They have some very knowledgeable persons on their forum that can be a great assistance. Good luck with your new laptop. Frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I realize that this IS a General chat forum, but I suggest that you would most likely get a solid answer from the Microsoft Users group forum. They have some very knowledgeable persons on their forum that can be a great assistance. Good luck with your new laptop. Frank... I just like to chime in here cause from what I've usually read, there are some smart cookies around. But you're right Frank, it's an MS issue so I really should be checking up there. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWAGON Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Well, Keep checking your particular post here on our Roxio forum as there are indeed some very knowledgeable gurus that may very well have encountered your particular problem and have an answer. I do know that in the past I was able to revert back to WMP 9 from 10, but not sure about going back from 11, especially running Vista. Frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I know that IE7 can't be rolled back once SP3 is installed. I'm not sure if WMP11 is in the same position or not. What might work (if you don't mind reformatting) is to use an older XP installation CD with the serial key that came with the laptop (usually on a sticky label underneath) - presuming of course you know where to borrow a genuine version (OEM versions won't work as they're keyed to a particular hardware configuration) Before anyone says anything here about using someone else's CD, MS take pains in the EULA to tell you that you don't OWN the software - merely a licence to use it and that licence is the installation key which will be different from machine to machine. Using another CD with your own legitimate key is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I know that IE7 can't be rolled back once SP3 is installed. I'm not sure if WMP11 is in the same position or not. What might work (if you don't mind reformatting) is to use an older XP installation CD with the serial key that came with the laptop (usually on a sticky label underneath) - presuming of course you know where to borrow a genuine version (OEM versions won't work as they're keyed to a particular hardware configuration) Before anyone says anything here about using someone else's CD, MS take pains in the EULA to tell you that you don't OWN the software - merely a licence to use it and that licence is the installation key which will be different from machine to machine. Using another CD with your own legitimate key is fine I remember you mentioning that (about IE7) in another post. I'm still waiting for someone on the MS boards to give me any advice about wmp and whether it can roll back at all. Yes I could take my desktop xp cd and use her license to reformat the laptop but I think I'd only go that far if wmp actually interfered with some app. thanks for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ml Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I know that IE7 can't be rolled back once SP3 is installed. If you uninstall SP3 ( instructions are on the Microsoft Website or follow the link here: http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=23162 ) then you CAN uninstall IE 7 and roll back to IE 6. You might want to check the Microsoft Support Knowledgebase to see if WMP 11 can be uninstalled. That's where I found the instructions to uninstall IE 6 once SP3 was installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I didn't even know you could remove sp3. I haven't had issues with it but for anyone has, that's got to be a handy tip to remember. I'm not sure if sp3 interferes with wmp11 rollback and haven't actually seen anything specifically saying so. The instructions for rolling back are pretty clear, but as I mentioned, I don't know how wmp is embedded into windows. Is wmp10 hidden in there and I'll roll back to it automatically or do I have to install it once wmp11 is gone? I'm still waiting for tips from the ms forums. I didn't think I was posting in an old or wrong section but maybe I did. I'll have to post some more. thanks for sharing the knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 To get WMP 11 in XP normally you would have to have allowed a download to upgrade from v10.If you did that then you should just be able to uninstall v11 and have v10. If by some chance when you installed XP it installed v11 then I'd think you might not be able to "rollback" because v10 won't be there. What you may be able to do is uninstall v11 and then download v10 from Microsoft and install it. v10 and 11 were both upgrades to the WMP that came with XP so you may or may not be able to rollback. I know that I installed it after already having v10 working and then uninstalled and it rolled back to v10 no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn98109 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Since it seems to me some have overlooked the beginning - This laptop came with Vista already on it. The rollback to WinXP was 'allowed'. That means it may not be the WinXP the regulars here have known and loved for years (not that I plan to use my WinXP for anything but burning, scanning, and updating AV & WinXP, but that's another tojpic). That means, the install MAY be already on SP3 and WinPlayer 11, and not have the rollback ability to WinPlayer 10 (or IE 6). In fact, the question is, 'is the above statement true or false?' Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 That's what I said. "If by some chance when you installed XP it installed v11 then I'd think you might not be able to "rollback" because v10 won't be there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 To get WMP 11 in XP normally you would have to have allowed a download to upgrade from v10.If you did that then you should just be able to uninstall v11 and have v10. If by some chance when you installed XP it installed v11 then I'd think you might not be able to "rollback" because v10 won't be there. What you may be able to do is uninstall v11 and then download v10 from Microsoft and install it. v10 and 11 were both upgrades to the WMP that came with XP so you may or may not be able to rollback. I know that I installed it after already having v10 working and then uninstalled and it rolled back to v10 no problem. That's part of what is making me cautious here because I didn't do the install\rollback and I don't know if it came with v11 or got updated to it. On the other hand, since v10 and 11 are upgrades, wouldn't v9 be in there as default (originally part of xp),if I removed 11, then I could up to 10? still waiting for advice on ms forums...must have posted incorrectly or something...(and have reposted again...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 It's like we said.If it's a SP3 disc then you may only have WMP11.If that's the case then you might be able to do as I suggested and uninstall 11 and download 10 and install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 It likely was an sp3 install as I don't see any of the usual long list of updates in add/remove. I already had v10 stored on a disc so I'll uninstall and pop 10 back on if needed. thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 WMP11 (and IE7) aren't part of the SP£ update. However, if you have a SP3 installation disc, it's more than likely they have been slipstreamed in and won't be removable - but all you can do is to try and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanrosenfeld Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The SP3 update to XP does not include WMP at all. I'm not sure how you went from Vista to XP, as I don't know what the downgrade entails. If XP installed 'on top' of Vista, my guess is that you would have WMP 11, which is what comes in Vista. If you did a clean install of XP (i.e. format the Vista partition, install XP, (which comes with WMP 9) and then installed WMP 11, you should be able to roll back. See if you have the (compressed) folder C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallwmp11$ If yes, if you uninstall WMP11 from Add/remove, you will roll back to the previous version. Note that to roll back completely, there are 3 entries in add/remove pertaining to WMP 11. See http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsme...stallation.mspx (expand 'how do I uninstall the player' as necessary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 The SP3 update to XP does not include WMP at all. I'm not sure how you went from Vista to XP, as I don't know what the downgrade entails. If XP installed 'on top' of Vista, my guess is that you would have WMP 11, which is what comes in Vista. If you did a clean install of XP (i.e. format the Vista partition, install XP, (which comes with WMP 9) and then installed WMP 11, you should be able to roll back. See if you have the (compressed) folder C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallwmp11$ If yes, if you uninstall WMP11 from Add/remove, you will roll back to the previous version. Note that to roll back completely, there are 3 entries in add/remove pertaining to WMP 11. See http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsme...stallation.mspx (expand 'how do I uninstall the player' as necessary) Thanks for the tip about looking for that folder. I'll check on it tomorrow and settle this once and for all. I'm in the peak of wedding season and I've got tons of photos to process and send off to the printers but as I said, I'll make time in the morning to put all of the advice everyone's took the time to post to good use. thanks all again for the support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid2man97 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallwmp11$ If yes, if you uninstall WMP11 from Add/remove, you will roll back to the previous version. Note that to roll back completely, there are 3 entries in add/remove pertaining to WMP 11. See http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsme...stallation.mspx (expand 'how do I uninstall the player' as necessary) That folder was present and the rollback went off without a hitch, making sure to remove all three entries in add/remove. A final thanks to all again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Glad you got it sorted and thanks for the fedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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