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Audio Cd - Gap Between Tracks


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This became a problem for me today, having written audio CDs since 1996 and consequently I have a rather disgruntled client leaving my studio empty handed!!!

 

Although I don't have in-depth knowledge of the white paper on red book audio, I have certainly never come across this "CD block of 2352 bytes". If I have to split an audio track at 03:21.003secs, then that's where it has be split. Never have I had a fault report from a glass mastering Engineer.

 

Granted, it is only an issue when the music needs to be continuous over adjacent tracks, ie: a live album, or DJ mixes as mentioned earlier, but should I start asking my composers and singers to adjust their performance in multiples of 2352 data bytes!!!!?

 

I have always used the disc-at-once option and happily stuck with Easy CD Creator 5 for many years. Changed motherboard and CPU so "upgraded" to Media Creator 10!

 

I fiddled around today after my client left, but keep getting gaps from 0.01 to 0.3 seconds - despite there being no gaps evident in my wave editor - Sony Sound Forge 9.

 

Artistically we shouldn't have to determine the start/end by the inadequacies of the CD writing software - and the only purpose of CD writing isn't to "rip-off" someone else's music!

 

I have just written another CD (same length wave files) with Sony CD Architect 5.2 (which I normally use for bigger, commercial CD mastering jobs) and hey presto - no gaps - and no regard to the 2352 byte barrier.

 

Adaptec and Roxio have served me well over the years and despite pressure from satisfied Nero users I have resisted the urge to jump ship. Will Roxio address this issue??? I don't really want to be using CD Architect for every little job - especially Mrs Twinklebottom's precious recording of her departed husband's final nailclipping session - on a budget of $7.73.

 

CD Architect is great and powerful, but I do like the idea of drag and forget when I dump my wave files into Media Creator.

 

As it has been a number of months I am curious to know how or whether nightguy6580 and djej managed to find an adequate solution or workaround???

 

 

 

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This became a problem for me today, having written audio CDs since 1996 and consequently I have a rather disgruntled client leaving my studio empty handed!!!

 

Although I don't have in-depth knowledge of the white paper on red book audio, I have certainly never come across this "CD block of 2352 bytes". If I have to split an audio track at 03:21.003secs, then that's where it has be split. Never have I had a fault report from a glass mastering Engineer.

 

Granted, it is only an issue when the music needs to be continuous over adjacent tracks, ie: a live album, or DJ mixes as mentioned earlier, but should I start asking my composers and singers to adjust their performance in multiples of 2352 data bytes!!!!?

 

I have always used the disc-at-once option and happily stuck with Easy CD Creator 5 for many years. Changed motherboard and CPU so "upgraded" to Media Creator 10!

 

I fiddled around today after my client left, but keep getting gaps from 0.01 to 0.3 seconds - despite there being no gaps evident in my wave editor - Sony Sound Forge 9.

 

Artistically we shouldn't have to determine the start/end by the inadequacies of the CD writing software - and the only purpose of CD writing isn't to "rip-off" someone else's music!

 

I have just written another CD (same length wave files) with Sony CD Architect 5.2 (which I normally use for bigger, commercial CD mastering jobs) and hey presto - no gaps - and no regard to the 2352 byte barrier.

 

Adaptec and Roxio have served me well over the years and despite pressure from satisfied Nero users I have resisted the urge to jump ship. Will Roxio address this issue??? I don't really want to be using CD Architect for every little job - especially Mrs Twinklebottom's precious recording of her departed husband's final nailclipping session - on a budget of $7.73.

 

CD Architect is great and powerful, but I do like the idea of drag and forget when I dump my wave files into Media Creator.

 

As it has been a number of months I am curious to know how or whether nightguy6580 and djej managed to find an adequate solution or workaround???

I don't know Sony's Sound Forge 9 (which is to say, I've heard of it, but don't have it), so I don't know what options and features it has, but I'm sure there's a setting for prepping for CD when it splits files.

 

If you want to pursue this, might I suggest that you download CDWAVE and try splitting your tracks out using that program. (It's small, simple to use and fast, and it automatically puts the splits on the proper boundaries.) Then try making a CD using the tracks you've prepared with it and see if you still get your gaps.

 

Also, are you using the Home application in EMC 10, or Music Disc Creator to write your discs?

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