Very Slow Rip Speed And Hassles

[Head Spins]

I've had Creator 2009 for a few weeks with nothing but pain. Even simple ripping of CD's to mp3's is much harder than my Creator 7.

 

1. Last night when ripping a couple songs off a disc, it was taking 4-5 minutes to rip a 4 minute song, even when I set it to 128 kps. On my old verstion, it would rip songs in about 10 seconds, @ 160 kps, or higher. Any help?

 

2. Also, you can't preview the songs on your CD you want to burn. With the Creator 7, you put in a CD and it would go to Grace notes, list the songs, and in the upper left corner it gave you a nice box to play and preview the songs on your CD, so you could confirm which ones to "x" for a Rip. With Creator 2009, I have to open up Windows media player to find the favorite songs to rip. Is this preview feature gone? Sometimes the Creator Classic doesn't even know I have a CD in my drive.

 

Thanks for reading.

[Beerman]

Exactly what part of the Suite are you using to rip the cd's? Please be a bit more detailed and post your computer info as well.

I recently ripped a cd using the 'Rip' in the Audio tab section of the Suite and while I didn't time it, it was quick. I'll have to try again and do some clock watching.

[Head Spins]

Exactly what part of the Suite are you using to rip the cd's? Please be a bit more detailed and post your computer info as well.

I recently ripped a cd using the 'Rip' in the Audio tab section of the Suite and while I didn't time it, it was quick. I'll have to try again and do some clock watching.

 

I went into music/audio: and then you can select Rip or Rip Advanced. I chose Rip. While it was ripping the 3 songs from the CD, the "time remaining" indicator was stuck in a loop showing :06, :05, :04 ... over and over for the full 7-8 minutes of ripping the songs.

 

I'm running the Creator on a Dell PC with XP.

[firenhancer]

I went into music/audio: and then you can select Rip or Rip Advanced. I chose Rip. While it was ripping the 3 songs from the CD, the "time remaining" indicator was stuck in a loop showing :06, :05, :04 ... over and over for the full 7-8 minutes of ripping the songs.

 

I'm running the Creator on a Dell PC with XP.

 

Are these Store bought audio CDs ? If not, how were they created? Can you provide make/model/firmware for your drive that is being used to read the discs. Do you have more than one drive? If yes, does the behaviour persist when using second drive?

Edited October 2, 2008 by firenhancer

[Head Spins]

Are these Store bought audio CDs ? If not, how were they created? Can you provide make/model/firmware for your drive that is being used to read the discs. Do you have more than one drive? If yes, does the behaviour persist when using second drive?

 

Yes, CD's are store bought. The drives should be fine ... ripping worked great with my Roxio C. 7 software just a few weeks ago. Since installing the $100 C. 2009, the rip crawls along. Plus, as I mentioned, some features are gone from C. 7; such as letting you listen to the CD/songs that you want to rip.

 

I have 2 CD trays in the Dell Dimension: the top which is read/play only (came with the Dell); and a Samsung CD/DVD writer/burner.

[firenhancer]

I did some quick test on my Dell E520/Vista Home Premium/DVDROM-TSH352C using Advanced Rip (Roxio Multiple Audio CD Ripper)

 

Total tracks = 1

Total time = 61min

Settings : Default - LAME/Mp3/192kpbs/CBR

Expected time before rip = 7mins 36s

Actual Rip time = 6 mins 45s

 

Conclusion : Pretty good and close to expected rip time considering the seek/read times are different for different CDs as well as drives.

 

BTW C2009 has gone quite a bit of overhauling to deliver new as well as latest/greatest features. While I am in full agreement with some features being more important for certain tasks, one has to accept the reality of balance in the product for major masses.

 

You did not mention if you have attempted to use second drive and stills see identical results?

[Beerman]

I did some quick tests as well on a Dell with a cheap drive. 56 min. cd ripped to MP3 at 256. Using the 'Rip' feature took 7:47 seconds. Using Music Disc Creator (Rip Advanced) it took 8:29 secs but it had to read the contents of the cd and match it. Not too shabby I'd say.

[bimicher]

Yes, CD's are store bought. The drives should be fine ... ripping worked great with my Roxio C. 7 software just a few weeks ago. Since installing the $100 C. 2009, the rip crawls along. Plus, as I mentioned, some features are gone from C. 7; such as letting you listen to the CD/songs that you want to rip.

 

I have 2 CD trays in the Dell Dimension: the top which is read/play only (came with the Dell); and a Samsung CD/DVD writer/burner.

 

You could also use Batch Convert & Transfer. It allows you to "preview" the songs. A rip of the same 3 songs from the same CD took 2:45 with Convert & Transfer and 3:55 with the RIP program.

 

BTW, when you were doing you rips with EMC 7, are you sure you were ripping to mp3 and not to wav format? The wav format rips will only take seconds.

Edited October 2, 2008 by myguggi

[Head Spins]

I did some quick tests as well on a Dell with a cheap drive. 56 min. cd ripped to MP3 at 256. Using the 'Rip' feature took 7:47 seconds. Using Music Disc Creator (Rip Advanced) it took 8:29 secs but it had to read the contents of the cd and match it. Not too shabby I'd say.

 

7:47 for a full 60 minute CD is not bad -- about what I got out of Creator 7. That's why I can't believe it takes about 4 minutes to rip 1 4 minute song. Like I said, 3 songs (about 12 minutes of music) took almost 10 minutes. About 10 times slower than the old version.

 

I will try from my Samsung drive to see if it's any better and report back. Thanks.

 

I did some quick test on my Dell E520/Vista Home Premium/DVDROM-TSH352C using Advanced Rip (Roxio Multiple Audio CD Ripper)

 

Total tracks = 1

Total time = 61min

Settings : Default - LAME/Mp3/192kpbs/CBR

Expected time before rip = 7mins 36s

Actual Rip time = 6 mins 45s

 

Conclusion : Pretty good and close to expected rip time considering the seek/read times are different for different CDs as well as drives.

 

BTW C2009 has gone quite a bit of overhauling to deliver new as well as latest/greatest features. While I am in full agreement with some features being more important for certain tasks, one has to accept the reality of balance in the product for major masses.

 

You did not mention if you have attempted to use second drive and stills see identical results?

 

I agree you can't lay in the road and get run over by continuous improvement, re: features. Some features must be considered "core". eg Being able to confirm (listen to) what you want to rip. I imagine many people sit at their PC with their stack of CD's wanting to rip the 2-3 "favorite" cuts from each disc. You certainly need to browse through the CD contents to choose the songs/tracks to rip. Very annoying to have to open up CD "listening/playing" software to hear the content of what's in the PC's CD drive. Sorry to vent.

 

Thanks.

 

[grandpabruce]

7:47 for a full 60 minute CD is not bad -- about what I got out of Creator 7. That's why I can't believe it takes about 4 minutes to rip 1 4 minute song. Like I said, 3 songs (about 12 minutes of music) took almost 10 minutes. About 10 times slower than the old version.

 

I will try from my Samsung drive to see if it's any better and report back. Thanks.

 

 

 

I agree you can't lay in the road and get run over by continuous improvement, re: features. Some features must be considered "core". eg Being able to confirm (listen to) what you want to rip. I imagine many people sit at their PC with their stack of CD's wanting to rip the 2-3 "favorite" cuts from each disc. You certainly need to browse through the CD contents to choose the songs/tracks to rip. Very annoying to have to open up CD "listening/playing" software to hear the content of what's in the PC's CD drive. Sorry to vent.

 

Thanks.

 

Have you checked in Device Manager, to make sure the drive isn't in PIO mode, instead of Ultra DMA mode?

 

[Beerman]

Have you checked in Device Manager, to make sure the drive isn't in PIO mode, instead of Ultra DMA mode?

 

Good idea but why would he be able to rip so quickly in v7....assuming it's the same drive used with both versions.

I tried 2 other computers at home with 3 completely different drives. All the speeds varied with the same cd but none took longer than about 9 minutes.

[bimicher]

Good idea but why would he be able to rip so quickly in v7....assuming it's the same drive used with both versions.

I tried 2 other computers at home with 3 completely different drives. All the speeds varied with the same cd but none took longer than about 9 minutes.

 

He claimed 10 secs for a 4 minute song using EMC 7 to mp3. Until someone checks if that is possible, I don't believe it.

[Head Spins]

He claimed 10 secs for a 4 minute song using EMC 7 to mp3. Until someone checks if that is possible, I don't believe it.

 

The other handy part of EMC 7, was when you put a store bought CD in the tray, Windows would pop up and ask 3-4 options, eg listen, copy, or copy tracks. If you selected copy tracks, it would take you to creator classic, add the song names from Grace Notes, and let you preview with a little "player': play, pause, FF, rew, etc. When you put an "x" next to the ones to rip to your hard drive, you'd see a blue line move next to the song with ripping progress %; it would say "complete" after each song; about 10-12 seconds for 128 bps; or 20-25 seconds for 190.

 

With Creator 2009, if you select "copy tracks" at the first Windows pop-up, it takes you to an area which wants you to create a project to burn tracks to a new disc ... rather than the hard drive. Difficult for the blood pressure. [i'm trying to cull my CD collection down and build some nice large mp3 discs (about 150 songs each) for the car. It will be a long weekend!

[Brendon]

A place where a little thought before changing the design may have helped immensely?