Unsupported Characters In File Names

[WSC]

I have used earlier versions of Roxio (6?) on previous PC's, and when I created a data CD, if unsupported characters were used in certain file names, the software would convert all of these to an underscore (_). Now, I just get an error message and a list of files that won't go on the disk. Where did this functionality go? What am I missing?

[Brendon]

Where did this functionality go? What am I missing?

It would seem that functionality hasn't been included.

 

Roxio was taken over by Sonic after version 6, and there has been a tendency since then to "simplify" some applications.

[WSC]

Hmm. I thought Roxio bought Sonic. Wow.

 

Any idea where I can get that functionality? I use the ";" routinely in my files, especially music. This makes it pretty useless for me. I haven't even tried the music CD yet.

 

Thanks.

[Brendon]

Well, if you can't select another filesystem for the burn to allow the use of semicolons [i don't have EMC10 on this machine today to check], there's a utility I use called "psrenamer". I use it to remove artist names from mp3 filenames. You should be able to run it against a whole folder to get every semicolon in all the filenames replaced by an underscore.

 

After recording your disc just use psrenamer to replace all the underscores with semicolons again.

 

It's a free download, here. It might help you.

 

Regards,

Brendon

Edited October 19, 2008 by Brendon

[Brendon]

Hey! Hold the Bus!!

 

I had a suspicion nagging away there, so I went and installed EMC 10 again.

 

Is this, in CREATOR CLASSIC [which Sonic want to drop from the suite] not exactly the thing you said wasn't there?

 

 

If your version has CREATOR CLASSIC may I suggest that you ignore the simple Sonic 'Make Data Disc' software while you still can, and use CLASSIC. It should avoid you having to use that third-party software.

 

Regards,

Brendon

[WSC]

Thanks so much for the information. Here's what I have:

 

Creator Premier

Version: 10.2.606

Build: 116B06A, DLH

Serial Number: <removed>

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007.

 

 

 

In fact, here's the whole list, if that helps:

Module Name: PX Engine

Build: 4.4.48a, 30

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Central Core

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B20A, DLH

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Tools

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B07B, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Data

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B08A, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Copy

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B07A, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Audio

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B10A, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

 

I don't see any other option for creating a data disk. I don't see Classic at all (sadly; I liked it).

 

Why is it missing in my version? Premiere?

 

I actually have a bulk renaming, "Renaming Master", at http://www.joejoesoft.com/cms/showpage.php. It's very comprehensive. But, I'm really hoping to avoid all the extra work. Besides, if I decided to create a DVD of much of my music collection with lotsa subfolders, neither would be much help. Does Nero provide this functionality? This missing component is not small; it really does make Roxio almost useless to me (except where I can just rename a few files and use it).

 

Thanks for the extra work. Any other ideas? I wonder if it's included in version 2009?

Edited October 27, 2008 by Brendon

[tbrewst]

I made a data disc yesterday using Creator Classic and it had mp3 files on it and I got the pop up to change the file name multiple times.

[ogdens]

Thanks so much for the information. Here's what I have:

 

Creator Premier

Version: 10.2.606

Build: 116B06A, DLH

Serial Number: <removed>

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007.

 

 

 

In fact, here's the whole list, if that helps:

Module Name: PX Engine

Build: 4.4.48a, 30

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Central Core

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B20A, DLH

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Tools

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B07B, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Data

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B08A, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Copy

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B07A, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

Module Name: Roxio Creator Audio

Version: 3.7.0

Build: 370B10A, DLP

Copyright: Sonic Solutions 2007

 

 

I don't see any other option for creating a data disk. I don't see Classic at all (sadly; I liked it).

 

Why is it missing in my version? Premiere?

 

I actually have a bulk renaming, "Renaming Master", at http://www.joejoesoft.com/cms/showpage.php. It's very comprehensive. But, I'm really hoping to avoid all the extra work. Besides, if I decided to create a DVD of much of my music collection with lotsa subfolders, neither would be much help. Does Nero provide this functionality? This missing component is not small; it really does make Roxio almost useless to me (except where I can just rename a few files and use it).

 

Thanks for the extra work. Any other ideas? I wonder if it's included in version 2009?

 

Sounds like you have a Dell OEM version ( it came pre-installed on your computer). OEM version,s do not normally come with ALL the features that is contained in the FULL retail Roxio version. Check with Dell to see if they have any upgrades available.

 

 

edited to remove serial

Edited October 27, 2008 by Brendon

[WSC]

 

 

Ya know, I asked Dell when I bought my PC if the Roxio was full function; they said that it was. How would I go about (cheaply) upgrading my version to include the auto-conversion functionality in CC? Is it in Roxio 2009 (not that I'm ready to be first to own any of their newest products). I wonder if there's a way to add the Creator Classic piece??? BTW: What version do you have?

 

 

 

 

[bimicher]

Ya know, I asked Dell when I bought my PC if the Roxio was full function; they said that it was. How would I go about (cheaply) upgrading my version to include the auto-conversion functionality in CC? Is it in Roxio 2009 (not that I'm ready to be first to own any of their newest products). I wonder if there's a way to add the Creator Classic piece??? BTW: What version do you have?

 

Why don't you go back to Dell and complain that they did not give you the full versio? There is no harm in trying

Every version of Roxio from EMC 5 or 6 on contains Creator Classic. It cannot be added separately.

[WSC]

No luck with Dell. I don't guess I can just install CC from my old 6.0 can I w/o having it interfere with my 10.2?

[sknis]

No luck with Dell. I don't guess I can just install CC from my old 6.0 can I w/o having it interfere with my 10.2?

 

You don't guess correctly; especially if your Dell OS is Vista.

[Brendon]

Ya know, I asked Dell when I bought my PC if the Roxio was full function; they said that it was. How would I go about (cheaply) upgrading my version to include the auto-conversion functionality in CC? Is it in Roxio 2009 (not that I'm ready to be first to own any of their newest products). I wonder if there's a way to add the Creator Classic piece??? BTW: What version do you have?

 

Hi,

 

The sales 'droid you spoke to at Dell needs his/her neck wrung! All the OEM versions have parts chopped off or disabled to make them cheaper.

 

Creator Classic is in Easy Media Creator 9 [EMC9] and EMC 10, and EMC 11 [which is for some strange reason called Creator 2009]

There are "rumbles in the camp" which suggest that Sonic are looking at dropping Creator Classic, which would be very sad IMHO.

 

I can understand your reluctance to be right up the front of the queue for the latest version. There are a lot of people who do like to be up there however, and often they will sell off their earlier version when they 'trade up'. It might be worth your while looking for a second-hand copy of an earlier version somewhere like on eBay. EMC 9 is a good version. It has Creator Classic and I think it was the last to have a proper Disc Copier before they started to dismantle that program.

 

Regards,

Brendon

 

[WSC]

Brendon,

 

1. But, the key question still is, "Will these components in Roxio going forward (version 2009, e.g.) support the (temporary) renaming feature that was so useful in Creator Classic?" I do like CC because it was so easy to use. I guess others found its interface primative. But, I need for Roxio to offer this "conversion" ability in all of its (relevant) components. Does version 2009 do this??? I'm sensing NOT.

 

2. Do you know for certain that CC with "renaming" is featured in the "real" version of 10 and the new 2009? (I may be able to pick up a used copy of 10 on Amazon, as you suggested. What do you think of that?)

 

3. How does 10 compare with 2009? What do I really get in 2009 over 10? Reduced functionality? A lot of s/w vendors seem to only offer fluff and an increase in instability, and certainly Roxio has been a major offender of this over the years. (I've had 4 or 5 versions of their product over the years.)

 

4. You seem to be quite knoweldgeable: In your humbe opinion, is Sonic generally improving Roxio or not?

 

5. "EMC 9 is a good version. It has Creator Classic and I think it was the last to have a proper Disc Copier before they started to dismantle that program." What did you like about the DC in version 9 that you don't like now?

 

6. What do you know about Nero, Roxio's primary (only?) competitor? Do you know if they support renaming? Maybe that's the way to go.

 

7. Sknis: So I can install CC from my old Roxio version 6.0? But, my OS is Win XP Pro SP3. If I can install just CC, will it conflict with version 10.2?

 

Thanks for the great input.

 

WSC

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the great input.

[sknis]

7. Sknis: So I can install CC from my old Roxio version 6.0? But, my OS is Win XP Pro SP3. If I can install just CC, will it conflict with version 10.2?

 

Thanks for the great input.

 

WSC

 

Thanks for the great input.

 

Not quite what I meant to say, I was trying to tell you to not try to install any of the older versions in Vista (EMC 8 and earlier). You had not posted what OS you were using.

 

I know that older versions of EMC will not run with IE 7 and/or WMP 11 on a computer. I would guess that that would hold true for much early versions. I never worked with those earlier versions so I don't know if there is a custom install. Perhaps someone else can comment.

 

You might want to look lower in the boards for the forum for help there Legacy Programs here.

 

[Brendon]

Brendon,

 

1. But, the key question still is, "Will these components in Roxio going forward (version 2009, e.g.) support the (temporary) renaming feature that was so useful in Creator Classic?" I do like CC because it was so easy to use. I guess others found its interface primative. But, I need for Roxio to offer this "conversion" ability in all of its (relevant) components. Does version 2009 do this??? I'm sensing NOT.

Yes, EMC 11/Creator 2009 does it, but only in Creator Classic. The dumbed-down "burn data disc' Sonic module won't do it, but CC11 responds nicely, just like that screenshot I showed of EMC 10 in post #5.

 

2. Do you know for certain that CC with "renaming" is featured in the "real" version of 10 and the new 2009? (I may be able to pick up a used copy of 10 on Amazon, as you suggested. What do you think of that?)

Yes, I know for certain. I have pictures I made!

A 'pre-loved' copy of 10 should be very useful. Make sure you get 10.0 if you want to use .JWL label files from previous versions, since 10.1 has NO backward compatibility [not even with 10.0] in the label-making department.

 

3. How does 10 compare with 2009? What do I really get in 2009 over 10? Reduced functionality? A lot of s/w vendors seem to only offer fluff and an increase in instability, and certainly Roxio has been a major offender of this over the years. (I've had 4 or 5 versions of their product over the years.)

Well, I noticed the icons and color schemes are different.

 

4. In your humbe opinion, is Sonic generally improving Roxio or not?

The sometimes complex but always flexible Roxio modules are being replaced with simple but inflexible Sonic modules and a lot of control is being taken from the user. If that is an improvement, then Sonic is improving Roxio - except that soon only the name will remain.

 

5. "EMC 9 is a good version. It has Creator Classic and I think it was the last to have a proper Disc Copier before they started to dismantle that program." What did you like about the DC in version 9 that you don't like now?

Disc Copier 9 is the last Disc Copier before it was taken to the vet to have its bits removed.

 

6. What do you know about Nero, Roxio's primary (only?) competitor? Do you know if they support renaming? Maybe that's the way to go.

I don't know about the competitor's abilities, but it would be poor form to discuss them here on a Sonic/Roxio forum. You'd be better asking that on one of the many technical forums.

 

I certainly wouldn't even try to install CC from version 6 into XP-SP3. It's too old.

 

Regards,

Brendon

[WSC]

Thanks for all for the information. If CC is all that will support character reassignment (; to _), I'm not feeling comfortable with that. I'm going to explore some free alternatives just for the data disk capability. Maybe Roxio won't disappoint in its other capabilities (not yet fully explored).

 

One that has been recommended is http://cdburnerxp.se/. I inquired and one of their developers says that it does indeed offer the renaming capability. Hopefully Sonic will see this loss of functionality as the sizable gap that it is and restore it soon. I won't return in my next (purchased) version unless they do. Maybe I'm unique in requesting this requirement, but I suspect not.

 

Thanks again.

[WSC]

I did hear back from my inquiry of Nero. Mr. Roxio/Ms. Sonic better get back into gear:

 

"Dear WSC,

 

thank you for your e-mail.

 

Nero will automatically convert the semicolon to an underscore when creating a data disc.

 

If you haven´t got Nero 9 installed yet you can also download a trial version from our website:

http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-nero9-trial.php

 

Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

 

Best Regards,

 

Manuela Gritschnik

Nero Support

 

 

Nero AG

Im Stoeckmaedle 13-15

76307 Karlsbad

Germany

Fax : ++49 (0)7248 928 499

http://www.nero.com

 

NERO – SIMPLY ENJOY™ "

 

[grandpabruce]

I did hear back from my inquiry of Nero. Mr. Roxio/Ms. Sonic better get back into gear:

 

 

What part of the posts, about Creator Classic, in this thread, did you miss? It is part of the EMC suites, and it does what you want it to.

[WSC]

This is in reference to a topic of the same name that has been closed out (link http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...p;#entry233252).

 

Grandpabruce: I understand that CC still has this capability, but my take on it from all the posts was that it was a fading feature, currently ONLY available in the CC module and apparently not elsewhere in the suite. And, this suggests that it may go away in the next release. At least to me, this seems like a big miss and my research indicates that other competitors (free and commercial) offer this feature standard. Thus, it seems risky to go forward with a product that has this limitation and offers hints that it may disappear altogether. I'm surprise Roxio/Sonic would go this route, but oh well.

 

Thx.

 

WSC

[ogdens]

This is in reference to a topic of the same name that has been closed out (link http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...p;#entry233252).

 

Grandpabruce: I understand that CC still has this capability, but my take on it from all the posts was that it was a fading feature, currently ONLY available in the CC module and apparently not elsewhere in the suite. And, this suggests that it may go away in the next release. At least to me, this seems like a big miss and my research indicates that other competitors (free and commercial) offer this feature standard. Thus, it seems risky to go forward with a product that has this limitation and offers hints that it may disappear altogether. I'm surprise Roxio/Sonic would go this route, but oh well.

 

Thx.

 

WSC

 

What guarantees do the "free and commercial" programs give that it will still be in their next version.

 

 

Edited November 6, 2008 by ogdens

[grandpabruce]

This is in reference to a topic of the same name that has been closed out (link http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...p;#entry233252).

 

Grandpabruce: I understand that CC still has this capability, but my take on it from all the posts was that it was a fading feature, currently ONLY available in the CC module and apparently not elsewhere in the suite. And, this suggests that it may go away in the next release. At least to me, this seems like a big miss and my research indicates that other competitors (free and commercial) offer this feature standard. Thus, it seems risky to go forward with a product that has this limitation and offers hints that it may disappear altogether. I'm surprise Roxio/Sonic would go this route, but oh well.

 

Thx.

 

WSC

 

I don't know who, or why the thread was closed.

 

Since we aren't Roxio, we have no idea whether or not Creator Classic will be offed. I hope not.

 

[jchanmc]

I too, have the same question on display of file names.

I have many Chinese and Japanese MP3. I use sound editor to normalize all songs and export tracks to a folder.

Names of songs all changed to either underscore or question marks or brackets.

My questions are,

 

1. Does Roxio 10 supports unicode?

2. How do I retain all my Chinese/Japanese song titles, singer names, Album names....etc.

 

Thank you very much.