Help With Max Burning Capacity On A Dvd

[ideetentee]

Had four different mpeg files that I edited and saved in Video Wave. Opened MyDvd to create a disc with a menu page. Added the four saved files to MyDvd. Fit-to-Disc quality was just above LP. The used-space bar at the bottom showed using virtually the entire DVD, around 4.6gb, if I remember. I burned the DVD and created and image file. It only used about two-thirds of the DVD to burn the project. I checked the iso file and it's size was only 2.7GB. Video quality suffered a bit because of the fit-to-disc, but why the discrepancy. Does anyone know why the actual burning used less space than what was indicated in MyDVD?

[ideetentee]

How long in time is the total duration of the four mpeg files? If under an hour, select the standard DVD size for disc size and HQ (High Quality). If total duration is less than two hours but far more than 1 hour, select the 8.5gb DVD for disc size but still with HQ for quality. Burn to an image file first. Then burn the image file to DVD using Video Copy and Convert.

 

 

Total duration of original mpeg files was 2hrs 33min. I trimmed each of them, one at a time in Video Wave, maybe a total of 10 minutes trimmed off. I guess you can't edit the actual mpeg file in Video Wave, so I had to save each edited file as dmsm. The dmsm files are the files I used to make the DVD in MyDVD.

 

I still don't understand why MyDVD showed I had a full DVD of video (4.6gb), yet when I burned the video it turned out to be much less on the final product (2.7gb). Thanks

 

[Brendon]

It seems that "fit to disc" is a very blunt instrument. I mean, 2.7 GB fits into a 4.7 GB disc, don't it?

 

We have asked why this should be so, but were never told an answer and Roxio never changed things despite all our pleading. The best practice is still to make a big ISO at best quality, and then get Video Copy and Convert to transcode it onto a 4.7 GB disc. Believe Walt, he knows these things!!

[bimicher]

It seems that "fit to disc" is a very blunt instrument. I mean, 2.7 GB fits into a 4.7 GB disc, don't it?

 

We have asked why this should be so, but were never told an answer and Roxio never changed things despite all our pleading. The best practice is still to make a big ISO at best quality, and then get Video Copy and Convert to transcode it onto a 4.7 GB disc. Believe Walt, he knows these things!!

 

Hey, I have been wrong before ... I just don't remember when

[ideetentee]

Thanks again everyone for your input. I contacted Roxio support to see what they had to say about the issue. The first reply was of course the canned email recommending video driver updates, startup items, etc. I replied back thanking them for their canned email, asking them to please address the problem directly. Here's the response I got:

 

Thank you for Contacting Roxio Technical Support

 

Unfortunately there is no answer to your qestion. The Fit do disc, is currently auto set to compress the files.

I can only pass on your question to programmers.

 

 

We appreciate that you took the time to write to us.

 

We're always glad to hear from our customers whether it be a compliment, suggestion or an issue that needs to be resolved such as a software bug or a problem with our web site.

 

We have documented your feedback and will make sure that the information is passed along to the right people in our organization as necessary.

 

 

Regards,

 

Roxio Technical Support

 

[bimicher]

Total duration of original mpeg files was 2hrs 33min. I trimmed each of them, one at a time in Video Wave, maybe a total of 10 minutes trimmed off. I guess you can't edit the actual mpeg file in Video Wave, so I had to save each edited file as dmsm. The dmsm files are the files I used to make the DVD in MyDVD.

 

I still don't understand why MyDVD showed I had a full DVD of video (4.6gb), yet when I burned the video it turned out to be much less on the final product (2.7gb). Thanks

 

Videowave has no problems editing mpg files. When you save to a dmsm file you are not creating any video but only a file which contains the list of source files you are using, any effects, transition, etc you are applying. The dmsm file does not contain any video. If you want to create a video file from Videowave you have to us the "Output As" option

 

I have the same thing happening when using "Fit to Disc". When I use this option to output a video that is longer then 60 minutes at best quality (thus larger then a standard 4.7GB DVD) the resulting iso file is always 2.7GB. That is why I select a 8.5GB disc and use the HQ quality option. You then use VCC to transcode the video to fit on the DVD.

[Jim_Hardin]

I have not experimented with Fit to Disc, but I think Brendon's 'Blunt Instrument' analogy is correct.

 

I also think the ISO method is still limited to 2 hours of play time???

 

I don't have V10 installed but 2009 tells me it will truncate my files if they exceed the disc size… But I did one set to HQ and found 2:02:45 breaks but 2:00:01 does not??? And it doesn't matter if I set disc size to 4.7 or 8.5…

 

But Create Folder Set works in all cases and VCC will work with that and make it fit.

 

[malatekid]

But Create Folder Set works in all cases and VCC will work with that and make it fit.

I remember Bruce (grandpabruce) posting a summary of maximum video project duration for various EMC versions (till version 9?).

[grandpabruce]

I remember Bruce (grandpabruce) posting a summary of maximum video project duration for various EMC versions (till version 9?).

 

The problems with .iso files, over 2 hours long, came about with the 7.1.1.189 update for EMC 7. It believe that the problem is still there. It was, through EMC 9.

 

Starting with EMC 8, I think it was, the Folder Set option became available, and I have used it for burning most of my productions, whether they are 2 hours in length, or less.

 

And, I ALWAYS have the quality setting at High Quality (HQ).

[ideetentee]

Videowave has no problems editing mpg files. When you save to a dmsm file you are not creating any video but only a file which contains the list of source files you are using, any effects, transition, etc you are applying. The dmsm file does not contain any video. If you want to create a video file from Videowave you have to us the "Output As" option

 

I have the same thing happening when using "Fit to Disc". When I use this option to output a video that is longer then 60 minutes at best quality (thus larger then a standard 4.7GB DVD) the resulting iso file is always 2.7GB. That is why I select a 8.5GB disc and use the HQ quality option. You then use VCC to transcode the video to fit on the DVD.

 

Thanks for all the help guys. So Fit-To-Disk option in MyDVD will create an iso file of only 2.7GB when your video file is larger than the standard 4.7GB DVD? Has anyone ever asked Roxio why? You would think that the program would compress the video to fit the disk as the term indicates.

[gi7omy]

I've a funny feeling that the '2.7 GB' was a typo

[bimicher]

I've a funny feeling that the '2.7 GB' was a typo

 

No, it's not a typo I have the same thing happening and mentioned this before on these boards.

[malatekid]

How long in time is the total duration of the four mpeg files? If under an hour, select the standard DVD size for disc size and HQ (High Quality). If total duration is less than two hours but far more than 1 hour, select the 8.5gb DVD for disc size but still with HQ for quality. Burn to an image file first. Then burn the image file to DVD using Video Copy and Convert.