8mm Tape Transfer

[imthomas]

Hi to all, Probably an age old question - but with new technolgy happening everywhere I'm looking into a fast, easy, reliable way to transfer 100's of hours of hi-8 & 8mm tapes over to a HHD. I have Roxio 10 and wonder if anyone has a good list for settings within Roxio. Also we're looking at a new desktop - what would be a good base line for minium PC requirments for good reliable data transfer. Thanks, Mike

[Jim_Hardin]

No there is no easy way… You have to load and play the movies while you record them.

 

A scanner to do that is what video labs use and you see what they charge which is based on the cost of a technician to load and run it along with recovering the cost of the machine.

 

If you actually have 100 hours of home movies I hope you have a few projector bulbs on hand

[Syrallas]

Hi to all, Probably an age old question - but with new technolgy happening everywhere I'm looking into a fast, easy, reliable way to transfer 100's of hours of hi-8 & 8mm tapes over to a HHD. I have Roxio 10 and wonder if anyone has a good list for settings within Roxio. Also we're looking at a new desktop - what would be a good base line for minium PC requirments for good reliable data transfer. Thanks, Mike

Take a look here for realistic EMC10 requirements.

[imthomas]

Wow! Lots of encouraging, good feedback… Perhaps I’m a victim of not being able to keep up with technology. Or perhaps my pocket book is not as deep as I’d hoped for – a quick glance in my storage unit (15 yr. collection) will offer up many less then positive tape transfer/editing solutions - including 3k for a Casablanca stand alone system, numerous PCs, HHDs & a drawer full of software. All have some disappointing story attached that included hours spent on a project only to see it crash. Okay enough whining…

 

Understanding we are a 1000 miles ahead of what was offered only a few years ago - but as I read this, a off the shelf HP Pavilion flying at 2.5 – 500 gig – aux. HHD, graphic card and a 7200 rpm burner all operating with in Roxio 10 will address these issues:

• Direct transfer and archive all my tapes (8mm & hi-8) from my Sony DCR TRV330 via fire wire connection to a specific file location on my new PC/HHD. Perhaps 75 - 100 separate files

• Store them and reopen each folder with specific goal of editing down the garbage & producing a finished edit(s)

• Given proper precautions – turning off most PC functions i.e internet connection, virus scanning, IM, most start up menus, etc. - A PC today can accomplish all this with minimum concern for crashing.

Also within Roxio 10 there’s several settings that I’m unsure about - my interest is to stay consistent & reliable in this long term project:

• Cache recording memory 1.2 vs. 7

• Twain options

• Aspect ratios

• Music quality mp3 @ 255 kps

• Modes 1 vs 2xA

• File system 150 + Joliet

• 29.97 vs 30 FPS recording

• Saved quality settings and many other optional settings I left off

 

Is it best to select “default” or is there a cheat sheet offering the best settings – resulting in the best results.

 

Anyway, thanks so much for the feedback…Mike

 

[Jim_Hardin]

I missed the tape part of that, thought you were talking about 8mm film. Anyway…

 

Twain – irrelevant

Aspect rations – irrelevant, beyond your control

Music rates – go with "Good" and never think about it

Modes & File Systems??? – Joliet is a Win95 Anchor, ISO is even worse. UDF is what you use but that is only for burning data! For DVD Movies - beyond your control

29.97 or 30? beyond your control, only choice is to capture as NTSC or PAL.

 

Not sure why you are chasing EMC10 for this when it is out of production and replaced with Creator 2009???

 

I guess they do offer a hobbled version V10 that like any crippled version will leave you hanging out to dry. – it does have the prime essentials of VideoWave and MyDVD but in a short time you are going to want more and you will find it isn't included in the box.

 

Of course Video is still a lot of work but it is a lot easier after they take out all of decisions! (you should hear users whine about how hard it is – not a clue what it used to be like!)

 

Here is how it works today:

 

Roxio Media Import: NTSC or PAL and choose mpeg2 or AVI for the file.

 

VideoWave: All editing done here – it is an extensive editor and you save a Project file. (cool thing, your source file is never touched in any way!) File type doesn't matter you can mix mpg, AVI, MOV etc. into the same Project!

 

MyDVD: This is your DVD Movie Authoring program. You add VW Projects to an interface you want on your DVD Movie. Want Menus, Chapter Menus, No Menus??? This is the place.

 

It is here that it will finally be rendered into proper format for the Project you are making and you can burn to media, make an ISO or burn a File set.

 

[imthomas]

Hi Jim, Thanks for the feedback and I'll stick with those basic settings. As to the Twain, EMC10, etc settings it is not that I wanted to change them, only that I see these options as I scroll threw some of Roxio's tool bars. I have always thought software development people approach things weird, but that's me.

 

Anyway, I'm feeling good about the edit & burn aspect of this project & see my first hurdle as the tape transfer over to a aux. HHD. I was wondering if you have ever tried such a large archived project - similar to what I have spoke about (transfer 75 tapes over to HHD). Mike

[Jim_Hardin]

Never seen Twain is Roxio, I guess it would be for a scanner…

 

I did about 100+ LaserDiscs with V6 & V7.

 

Never heard of "HHD"?

 

What do you mean by "transfer" tapes?

 

Any chance you mean capturing the tapes to your Hard Drive?

[imthomas]

Twain: I assumed it to be scanner as well - it was just an example of the many, many options within Roxio. Another sample is, there are more then 25 different ways to save a file once you're done editing meg2,3,4, avi,ipod & etc... And one more - copying video AVI @ 12 gigs per hr. vs. mpeg2 @ 4 gigs per hr. My point is - just to get everything dialed in so all copying, editting, saving and final burn goes the same & is sucessful. Today was a rainy day & took the time to walk threw a complete project from copying to burn with your suggested settings and the good news is - it all worked - a good day.

 

I'm sure I must sound like some gun-shy pansy, all I can say: There is a very long history of failers here and need to either produce something or hire it out...

 

I did about 100+ LaserDiscs with V6 & V7.: Impressive

 

Never heard of "HHD"? Long ago - I understond this to the abbreviated term for Hard Drive

 

What do you mean by "transfer" tapes?

 

Any chance you mean capturing the tapes to your Hard Drive? My bad - yes I meant capture...

 

Anyway, I will get this all sorted out and thanks...Mike

[bimicher]

Twain: I assumed it to be scanner as well - it was just an example of the many, many options within Roxio. Another sample is, there are more then 25 different ways to save a file once you're done editing meg2,3,4, avi,ipod & etc... And one more - copying video AVI @ 12 gigs per hr. vs. mpeg2 @ 4 gigs per hr. My point is - just to get everything dialed in so all copying, editting, saving and final burn goes the same & is sucessful. Today was a rainy day & took the time to walk threw a complete project from copying to burn with your suggested settings and the good news is - it all worked - a good day.

 

I'm sure I must sound like some gun-shy pansy, all I can say: There is a very long history of failers here and need to either produce something or hire it out...

 

I did about 100+ LaserDiscs with V6 & V7.: Impressive

 

Never heard of "HHD"? Long ago - I understond this to the abbreviated term for Hard Drive

 

What do you mean by "transfer" tapes?

 

Any chance you mean capturing the tapes to your Hard Drive? My bad - yes I meant capture...

 

Anyway, I will get this all sorted out and thanks...Mike

 

TWAIN is a standard software protocol and applications programming interface (API) that regulates communication between software applications and imaging devices such as scanners and digital cameras. It will only "appear" in Roxio when you try to import photos

 

HHD - acronym fo a Hybrid Hard Drive

 

I don't know what you mean by this statement "There is a very long history of failers here and need to either produce something or hire it out... "

[Jim_Hardin]

Twain: I assumed it to be scanner as well - it was just an example of the many, many options within Roxio. Another sample is, there are more then 25 different ways to save a file once you're done editing meg2,3,4, avi,ipod & etc... And one more - copying video AVI @ 12 gigs per hr. vs. mpeg2 @ 4 gigs per hr. My point is - just to get everything dialed in so all copying, editting, saving and final burn goes the same & is sucessful. Today was a rainy day & took the time to walk threw a complete project from copying to burn with your suggested settings and the good news is - it all worked - a good day.

 

I'm sure I must sound like some gun-shy pansy, all I can say: There is a very long history of failers here and need to either produce something or hire it out...

 

I did about 100+ LaserDiscs with V6 & V7.: Impressive

 

Never heard of "HHD"? Long ago - I understond this to the abbreviated term for Hard Drive

 

What do you mean by "transfer" tapes?

 

Any chance you mean capturing the tapes to your Hard Drive? My bad - yes I meant capture...

 

Anyway, I will get this all sorted out and thanks...Mike

I understand the history of failures!!!

 

I started dabbling with VCD's in Roxio V5 – capturing and tinkering was done in Ulead with a final pass through TMPGEnc to ensure it would be compatible before going to Creator 5.

 

It was indeed tedious and so easy to make a mistake, did I mention sacrificing a chicken?

 

Roxio's V6 was as easy at it gets but so limited… V7 started the path toward increase features but increased complexity.

 

Still by Creator 2009 it is a snap compared to what I went through with V5!!!

 

Your thinking is still stuck in the linear processing mode and have not turned the page to learn non-linear editing.

 

Clear your head - Go to Tips & Tricks and read the one on Project Strategy. Soon you will realize that this stuff is really easy.

 

[imthomas]

Hi Jim,

 

This all sounds good... "sacrificing a chicken" - funny stuff...

 

A friend of mine just purchased Roxio's '09 - and I have seen the demo video - I was pleased to see the software changes. Do you feel it is a break through improvement over #10 or just one more little step forward?

 

Anyway, this New Year's resolution will be to free myself from concerns about past versions 5-9 and to start thinking about today's editing...Mike

[Jim_Hardin]

Hi Jim,

 

This all sounds good... "sacrificing a chicken" - funny stuff...

 

A friend of mine just purchased Roxio's '09 - and I have seen the demo video - I was pleased to see the software changes. Do you feel it is a break through improvement over #10 or just one more little step forward?

 

Anyway, this New Year's resolution will be to free myself from concerns about past versions 5-9 and to start thinking about today's editing...Mike

Nothing earth shaking in Creator 2009. I just added a Blu-ray Player to the house so I am pleased to be able to burn BD onto DVD's and play them – have the 2009 Ultimate.

 

I figure they come out with a new version yearly around Sep/Oct so you want to strike while the iron is hot. Or stay with EMC 10 if it suits your current needs.