Burning Via Video Copy & Convert

[Ali156]

I am about as technical as an orange, so please try not to baffle me with too complicated PC expressions!

 

I bought Creator 2009 exactly a week ago - & after many problems installing I finally achieved success by following the advice given on here for a clean install (MANY THANKS for that!) - then had problems with screen resolution, which I managed to sort out as I realised one of the Creator programmes was set at the wrong level.

 

Last Sunday - I successfully managed to burn my 1st (& only as it's turned out) DVD - which was a photo slide-show, with audio, text on the photos & menus added.

 

HOWEVER - since then - I have been totally unable to burn any further discs.

 

I am creating the project through "MY DVD ADVANCED" - adding slide-shows of photos, menus, text on photos, audio backgrounds & am saving the project along the way.

 

However, I cannot get it to burn to DVD disc: - it encodes the previews of the slideshows & the menus absolutely fine & gets to an overall progress of 97%. Then it starts to burn to disc - reaches an overall progress of 100% & then gives me the error message: "FAILED TO START THE IMAGE OPERATION ERROR WHILE BURNING IMAGE" & then: "80004003 ERROR WHILE ABORTING"

 

So far I have tried everything I can think of that might be effecting the burn:

 

I have turned off all start-up programmes using MSCONFIG

 

I have made sure my firmware is up-to-date

 

I have made sure DMA is enabled

 

I have updated the PX Engine

 

I have checked the project settings are all OK

 

& now I can't think of anything else to try! I'm obviously missing something (which is probably gonna turn out to be something blatently obvious!) - but any idea what?

 

What is baffling me somewhat is the fact that I KNOW this works all OK on my PC, as I managed to burn the very 1st DVD with no problems whatsoever - but have no idea what I did differently then to what I am trying now!

 

Anyone got any idea PLEASE?!

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

 

[bimicher]

I've tried starting again from MYDVD re saving as an ISO file - then tried all of the above - but still nothing there.

 

I'm not too convinced that I'm not doing something I should be doing - or doing soemthing I shouldn't during the process (!)

 

I know the problem isn't my PC, as it did manage to burn one disc a few days ago (albeit the quality was naff - so I've bought some decent discs!) so it MUST be something I am doing.

 

Can anyone give me a step-by-step guide of what I should be pressing/doing - starting from once the finished project is saved in MYDVD?

 

I'm sure it's just me doing something wrong along the way (DOH)

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Once you hit the Burn button you should get the window as shown in the 1st image below. Do you see it?

Make sure your Burn window is set up like in the image except of course you will have a different location where the file is created. Once you hit the burn button you shoud get a window as shown in the 2nd image. Depending on the timelength of your project and your system, the encoding to create the iso file could take several hours.

 

Does any of this happen when you create the iso file?

 

 

[Ali156]

If there is an error message, it is doubtful that you will even be able to select the .iso file in Video Copy and Convert.

 

But, if you want to try to preview it, in Video Copy and Convert, click on the DVD Video Copy tab, then, in the Source drop down box, click on Browse for disc image....

 

Then, browse to where your disc image is, and highlight it. Click on the little monitor icon to preview it.

 

 

Nope - no error messages at all , just completely frozen at 95% overall progress / 53% recording slideshow. Actually left it running all night just in case I was being impatient, but after 9 hours-odd, the screen had stayed the same. Only way out was to Ctrl/Alt/Del yet again.

 

Will try to view ISO file, would be interesting to see what's actually in it!

 

Anyone had any ideas as to why I can't get the project to 100% ?

 

 

Nope - you are right, it won't let me open the saved ISO so I presume that even though it's shown - there are errors with it due to the burn not reaching 100%.

 

Will try making a really short 1 min slideshow & see if it will save that - beginning to think maybe it's too big?

 

But then, if that is the case - this programme will not be of use to me, as the whole point was to get all my kids photos & videos onto disc - I don't want to end up with just a few mins on each disc!

 

 

Any thoughts?

[Ali156]

OK - I have just successfully burned a 12 min slide-show - with no probs at all.

 

It would seem my only option here is to maybe break down the big slide show I have previously worked on without success into four or five shorter ones, burn them to ISO & then put them onto one disc?

 

Would that work ? Would you be able to view that OK on a dvd?

[grandpabruce]

OK - I have just successfully burned a 12 min slide-show - with no probs at all.

 

It would seem my only option here is to maybe break down the big slide show I have previously worked on without success into four or five shorter ones, burn them to ISO & then put them onto one disc?

 

Would that work ? Would you be able to view that OK on a dvd?

 

Actually, that points to something corrupt in your long slide show.

 

It may be time consuming, but I would keep building on to that 12 minute slide show, a little at a time, say 10 minutes, and burn another iso file. Keep doing that, until you get to a point that there is a problem. Maybe you won't actually have a problem.

 

It's worth a shot.

[Ali156]

About to give it another go & will keep ya posted! I'm getting obsessed by this now - it's 5.30am here! O well, determined to succeed!

[Larry]

OK - I have just successfully burned a 12 min slide-show - with no probs at all.

 

It would seem my only option here is to maybe break down the big slide show I have previously worked on without success into four or five shorter ones, burn them to ISO & then put them onto one disc?

 

Would that work ? Would you be able to view that OK on a dvd?

Basically, no that will not work. An image file (i.e. ISO) is an image of a single disc.

 

You mentioned earlier that you built the production in Videowave, then added it to MyDVD and edited it. It's best not to make any edits in MyDVD to productions you add from Videowave. It's best to do all "editing" in Videowave and only set up the menus and navigation in MyDVD.

 

You also mentioned you were following some workflow advice. Hopefully it was this post, which is a good outline to use:

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=44108

 

Since the small "test" project you did worked, and you were succsesfull once before this (noted in your first post), then the problem could well be not the size of your project, but a problem with one of your assests in the production. Like a picture file, a transition, an effect, etc. What you want to do is take note of where it's "freezing" during the process (like in the screenshot Walt posted, you should be able to see in the preview window about where that is). Then you go into your Videowave production and work on trying to figure out which part of it at that point is the problem. Maybe trim out most of everything else up to a point shortly before that, save it as a new production, then focus on removing or changing assests at the trouble spot, or just try outputting that smaller portion. Then output the production in Videowave to a video file (use something like DVD Best quality type which is an mpeg2 file). If that will render, then it should render ok when used in MyDVD.

 

You could also try just outputting your whole production from Videowave to file, then add that file to MyDVD if it will complete the render.

 

One other thing that comes to mind that you could check, since it's stopping at about 95%. Is the file system on your hard drive FAT32 or NTFS? If FAT32, then what may be happening is that as the ISO file is being created it has reached 4gb in size. That is the size limit for any single file on a FAT32 drive. In that case, you can convert your hard drive to NTFS. You could also try burning to a video Folder Set (option right below Image file in the burn options window) and if that works, use the folder set rather than an image file in VC&C to burn to disc.

[Ali156]

Getting just a tad peeved now:

 

Started from scratch yet again - got the 2 menus as above all OK.....

 

BUT: Overall progress just stopped (again) at 95% (current taks: recording slideshow - 53%) - left it for hours just in case it was just slow, but it proved to have just stopped. Had to Ctrl/Alt/Del to get out of it.

 

I now have an ISO file saved where it should be - but it's only 3.49GB instead of 4.6 - so presumabley there are files missing.

 

Can anyone advise as to why the progress keeps stopping?

 

I'm doing everything Ii should be - no background files/antivirus etc running at all, everything that could be updated has been - I just can't understand why it won't finish the burn.

 

So far, it's taken me almost 2 weeks of every spare moment on this programme to get this far - & I still haven't managed to produce one watchable disc as yet, getting rather fed up with it all !

[Ali156]

Basically, no that will not work. An image file (i.e. ISO) is an image of a single disc.

 

You mentioned earlier that you built the production in Videowave, then added it to MyDVD and edited it. It's best not to make any edits in MyDVD to productions you add from Videowave. It's best to do all "editing" in Videowave and only set up the menus and navigation in MyDVD.

 

You also mentioned you were following some workflow advice. Hopefully it was this post, which is a good outline to use:

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=44108

 

Since the small "test" project you did worked, and you were succsesfull once before this (noted in your first post), then the problem could well be not the size of your project, but a problem with one of your assests in the production. Like a picture file, a transition, an effect, etc. What you want to do is take note of where it's "freezing" during the process (like in the screenshot Walt posted, you should be able to see in the preview window about where that is). Then you go into your Videowave production and work on trying to figure out which part of it at that point is the problem. Maybe trim out most of everything else up to a point shortly before that, save it as a new production, then focus on removing or changing assests at the trouble spot, or just try outputting that smaller portion. Then output the production in Videowave to a video file (use something like DVD Best quality type which is an mpeg2 file). If that will render, then it should render ok when used in MyDVD.

 

You could also try just outputting your whole production from Videowave to file, then add that file to MyDVD if it will complete the render.

 

One other thing that comes to mind that you could check, since it's stopping at about 95%. Is the file system on your hard drive FAT32 or NTFS? If FAT32, then what may be happening is that as the ISO file is being created it has reached 4gb in size. That is the size limit for any single file on a FAT32 drive. In that case, you can convert your hard drive to NTFS. You could also try burning to a video Folder Set (option right below Image file in the burn options window) and if that works, use the folder set rather than an image file in VC&C to burn to disc.

 

 

 

Yep - I changed my workflow after one of the posts on here - but still think maybe I am a bit askew having read the link you kindly posted.

 

Basically what I am trying to do is assemble a still-photo-slide-show DVD, month by month since my kids were born (bit of a mammouth project!)

 

So far, what I have done is to create one month's slide-show at a time in VW - inserting blank slides with text showing appropriate dates before each set of photos + audio soundtracks + transition effects. Then I'm saving each month as a named file (ie July 2002) - & then starting the process all over again for the next month.

 

Then I'm going into MYDVD - creating a new project with menus, adding each month at a time to the project (= 4 months to one menu page), adding an intro slide-show page (blank slides with text), saving & then trying to burn to ISO.

 

Weirdly enough, as an experiment this afternoon - I cut one of the projects down from 4 menu pages to 3 (still 4 separate slideshows to each menu) - & it went to an ISO file abs fine. (Must admit - haven't tried putting to disc as yet - but it seemed to go all OK, albeit it took about 1.5hours to burn)

 

Then I realised I hadn't added the intro page - added it (through MYDVD not VW) - & it refused to burn again. Progress stopped yet again at 97%.

 

Then I tried just burning the intro page - no other slide-shows & it froze yet again......

 

Maybe that is causing the prob? All the projects I have tried unsuccessfully so far have had an intro.

 

Unfortunately - there is no preview pane showing when it does freeze.... it goes beyond that stage. It has been "encoding" everything fine (when you can see the images) - & then freezes on a blank image, saying "recording slideshow".

 

Something I did notice today - was that when it successfully burnt the ISO - I could see the preview of it burning the menu pages, which I hadn't seen before on previous unsuccessful attempts.

 

Which raises a few questions for me:

 

Should I be adding each month's worth of slide-show just to ONE project in VW?

 

If that's the case - how will that work with the menus in MYDVD, or will it just be one continuous slideshow? (This isn't a problem as long as I can still put the blank slides in with text for each "set" of photos)

 

Or am I doing the right thing by doing it one month at a time? (Anything from 10-40 photos in any one month, + the blank slides with text)

 

Also - have noted your comments regarding the file system on my hard drive (FAT32 or NTFS) - how do I find that out?!

 

Really appreciate all the help - am absoultely determined to have some photo-DVDS to bore the family with for Xmas! Won't give up!

 

 

[bimicher]

OK - I have just successfully burned a 12 min slide-show - with no probs at all.

 

It would seem my only option here is to maybe break down the big slide show I have previously worked on without success into four or five shorter ones, burn them to ISO & then put them onto one disc?

 

Would that work ? Would you be able to view that OK on a dvd?

 

How long in time is your "big slideshow"?

[Ali156]

Just tried the whole process over again - & exactly the same thing has happened: progress stopped as above.

 

Any ideas folks? Please! Getting exceedingly fed up now - I have wasted simply hours on this now.

[bimicher]

Getting just a tad peeved now:

 

Started from scratch yet again - got the 2 menus as above all OK.....

 

BUT: Overall progress just stopped (again) at 95% (current taks: recording slideshow - 53%) - left it for hours just in case it was just slow, but it proved to have just stopped. Had to Ctrl/Alt/Del to get out of it.

 

I now have an ISO file saved where it should be - but it's only 3.49GB instead of 4.6 - so presumabley there are files missing.

 

Can anyone advise as to why the progress keeps stopping?

 

I'm doing everything Ii should be - no background files/antivirus etc running at all, everything that could be updated has been - I just can't understand why it won't finish the burn.

 

So far, it's taken me almost 2 weeks of every spare moment on this programme to get this far - & I still haven't managed to produce one watchable disc as yet, getting rather fed up with it all !

 

How long in time is your slideshow? Why do you say its only 3.40GB instead of 4.6GB?

When in VCC and you have added the movie can you preview it and does it play properly?

 

 

I don't want to go back and read all your posts but did you ever list your system specs/ If not please do so, especially your burner and video card, putting them in the signature like I have is a good idea.

With a reasonable burner, the actuall burn should take no more then 15 minutes.

[Ali156]

How long in time is your "big slideshow"?

 

 

The original version I was trying to burn was 1 hour 3 mins.

 

 

The one I successfully burnt this aftn was just about 1 hour. (but no "Intro")

[grandpabruce]

The original version I was trying to burn was 1 hour 3 mins.

 

 

The one I successfully burnt this aftn was just about 1 hour. (but no "Intro")

 

What did you do for an intro, and did you add it to your production?

 

[Ali156]

What did you do for an intro, and did you add it to your production?

 

 

Intro was just a slideshow with blank slides + added text. Yep - it was added to the production, (which had previously burnt to ISO OK) - & then froze again during burning.

[Larry]

Intro was just a slideshow with blank slides + added text. Yep - it was added to the production, (which had previously burnt to ISO OK) - & then froze again during burning.

Did you use the Videowave production file (dmsm) for the intro? If so, in Videowave, output that production to a video file and try adding that file as the intro instead of the production file.

 

It looks to me like you are building the productions correctly. I would not change to doing one big one. Working with the smaller productions is a much better idea.

 

To check the file system on your hard drive, open Windows Explorer, right click on the drive and select Properties. The file system will be noted on the General tab. Although, if you were able to create an image file without the intro, my guess would be it may be > 4gb and that this is not your issue. Sounds more like an issue with using the intro or the production you used for it.

[bimicher]

Something I did notice today - was that when it successfully burnt the ISO - I could see the preview of it burning the menu pages, which I hadn't seen before on previous unsuccessful attempts.

 

Which raises a few questions for me:

 

Should I be adding each month's worth of slide-show just to ONE project in VW?

 

If that's the case - how will that work with the menus in MYDVD, or will it just be one continuous slideshow? (This isn't a problem as long as I can still put the blank slides in with text for each "set" of photos)

 

Or am I doing the right thing by doing it one month at a time? (Anything from 10-40 photos in any one month, + the blank slides with text)

 

Also - have noted your comments regarding the file system on my hard drive (FAT32 or NTFS) - how do I find that out?!

 

Really appreciate all the help - am absoultely determined to have some photo-DVDS to bore the family with for Xmas! Won't give up!

 

Using Videowave, create one months slideshow and save the project as a dmsm file. When you are ready to burn to DVD, add each dmsm project in myDVD and it will become a Title on a myDVD menupage. Be sure do add the project files in the sequence you want to select them when playing the DVD. Trying to rearrange the menu buttons can get very confusing.

 

To find out which file system your are using: right click on a hard drive in your system and then select Properties. The Properties window that then pops up will show which File System your selected hard drive is using: it should be either FAT32 or NTFS.

If FAT32 then that is where you problem was: under FAT32 the largest file can only be 4GB. A 1 hour video at best quality will create a 4.6GB file which would be bigger then allowed on a FAT32 system

 

BTW, what is the purpose of the Intro you keep mentioning?

[Ali156]

Many thanks - I have tried to find as much info as may help:

 

I have Dell Dimension 3100

 

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 3

 

Dell Dimension DV051 Intel ® Pentium ® 4CPU 2.80GHz 2.79GHz 0.99GM of RAM

 

Standard Disc Drive ST3160828AS version 5.1.2535.0 (no update available for this)

 

Intel ® 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family version 6.14.10.4543 (this has been updated!)

 

DVD Drive is HL-DT-ST-DVD+RW GWA 4164B version 5.1.2535.0 (also been updated)

 

On the C-Drive, there is 145GB - 57.8GB used, 88.1GB free

 

 

If there's any other info that would help - please let me know where to find it & I'll get back to you! Can you also tell me which bits will be relevant for a signature?

 

Many thanks once again - I'm tearing my hair out with this, really keen to see where I'm going wrong!

 

Ali

 

How long in time is your slideshow? Why do you say its only 3.40GB instead of 4.6GB?

When in VCC and you have added the movie can you preview it and does it play properly?

 

 

PS - sorry in answer to above - it is quite a big project: time-wise it runs 1 hour 2 mins.

 

In the properties of the saved ISO file - it shows the file to be 3.40GB, when the project in MYDVD is shown at 4.6GB.

 

Yep - all plays fine on preview in VCC

[Ali156]

Have just been trawling the troubleshooting pages & am gonna have another go - accessing Creator via "start" this time - as I have been using the home page, seems about the only thing I haven't tried yet!

 

Watch this space!

[Ali156]

Me again!

 

STILL haven't managed to produce one watchable DVD slideshow as yet - but I live in hope:

 

Some advice pleeeeease !

 

Previously had problems burning a photo slideshow to DVD disc via MYDVD. (went all the way to 100% progress but various error messages etc)

 

Have now changed my way of working, through advice on here, so have now produced a photo slideshow through Videowave - then edited in MYDVD.

 

It is quite large, at 4600MG of the available 4.7GB.

 

I was advised on here to burn the disc via Video, Copy & Convert instead - but I am obviously doing something wrong, as I can seem to get that to work either.

 

I am going into Burn on MYDVD, ticking the "Save Disc Imagine File" box - hitting Browse & saving it, then exiting out of MYDVD & going into Video, Copy & Convert.

 

However, when I click "Add Movies" - the iso file is nowhere to be seen!

 

If I manually go to the folder the iso file should have been saved in - it's not there.

 

Any clues as to what I am doing wrong?!

 

Many thanks (again - you lot are a godsend!)

 

 

 

 

[Ali156]

OK - that didn't work either!

 

It took about an hour before it froze again at 95% - whereas befor eit was taking about 2hours to get to that stage...

 

Is there any way of previewing the saved ISO file? Would just be interested to see what's in it compared with the original project that fails to burn 100% ??

[Jim_Hardin]

Get some Verbatim media – 4X RW for testing.

 

If that fails follow the 2 stage method we all use.

 

1. In MyDVD Burn, select To File (ISO). Note where that file is and its' name.

 

2. Close MyDVD and open Video Copy & Convert. Point it to the ISO file and let it burn.

 

General Advice: Your workflow is Wrong!

 

VideoWave is your Editor - build your projects in there.

 

MyDVD is your Authoring software. Bring in your VW Project, make your interface and burn.

 

[Ali156]

I have got NTFS not FAT32.

 

Thinking of just ditching the intro to be honest - not essential & it seems to have been the prob here.

 

Gonna have a go a burning a different project later & see what happens.

 

Then o course - proof is in the pudding as they say - need to convert to a disc to make sure it'll play!

 

Will letcha know how I get on.

 

Appreciate all this help guys.

 

Many thanks.

 

[gi7omy]

do a search for *.iso and also, if that fails, one for *.c2d. It may also have been written in .bin and .cue so a search for -*.cue may show something.

 

Sometimes the image is written as .c2d (a proprietary Roxio format) and that should also work in Creator.

 

If you haven't changed default settings, just double clicking on the image should automatically open it for burning

[grandpabruce]

OK - that didn't work either!

 

It took about an hour before it froze again at 95% - whereas befor eit was taking about 2hours to get to that stage...

 

Is there any way of previewing the saved ISO file? Would just be interested to see what's in it compared with the original project that fails to burn 100% ??

 

If there is an error message, it is doubtful that you will even be able to select the .iso file in Video Copy and Convert.

 

But, if you want to try to preview it, in Video Copy and Convert, click on the DVD Video Copy tab, then, in the Source drop down box, click on Browse for disc image....

 

Then, browse to where your disc image is, and highlight it. Click on the little monitor icon to preview it.

[Ali156]

Get some Verbatim media – 4X RW for testing.

 

If that fails follow the 2 stage method we all use.

 

1. In MyDVD Burn, select To File (ISO). Note where that file is and its' name.

 

2. Close MyDVD and open Video Copy & Convert. Point it to the ISO file and let it burn.

 

General Advice: Your workflow is Wrong!

 

VideoWave is your Editor - build your projects in there.

 

MyDVD is your Authoring software. Bring in your VW Project, make your interface and burn.

 

 

Many thanks for the advice - don't know what I did today, but got the disc to burn! Unfortunately, the disc doesn't play well - but I can tell it's the disc, so as you say I think investing in a higher quality disc is a very good idea!

 

Will follow your advice for the next project re using VideoWave & MyDVD.