Mp3 Cd Burning & Playing

[JroTull]

I can't get burned MP3 CDs to play in my jeep cherokee's CD player. The book says it will play them and has some attributes listed, like 255 files max and using the ISO 9660 + Joliet extension. So, I tried to burn a disc with 255 songs using various disc creation options.... like Music Disc Creator, Creator Classic, Jukebox Disc and Audio CD. All play just fine in my laptop but I get the message "Err CD" in my car. Could someone please direct me to some other settings options? I've already wasted about 10 CD-Rs and don't want to waste too many more. I'm using TDK 80 min 700mb discs. Thanks!

[tbrewst]

Have you tried just a plain Data disc in your car?

 

Could be the playlist that's being made isn't liked by your car.Try the plain data disc and see if it will play them that way.

If it does then the problem is probably the playlist format.

The data disc and the MP3 disc are the same except for the playlist.

 

Not knowing what year and model Jeep you have I did some looking around.Seems that the later models don't support Playlists.

Try the Data disc and see if it works.

Also what I saw was a 12 character file name maximum,including the extension (.mp3).

[Larry]

Going by what's in that manual, I'm wondering if it's the length of the filename. When using Joliet, it doesn't say if there's any restrictions to the filename, but it also says that if you use anything but ISO 9660it may not play anyway.

 

Get some CD-RW discs (if you don't have any already) since it states those are usable. Those can be erased and re-used for testing.

 

I would use Music Disc Creator, and check the project settings. The screenshot I'm including is what I used(my player has different folder/file limit restrictions tho). Also keep in mind that my files were already mp3's which is why I set the keep/convert options like I did.

 

Try the Joliet option first with only one or two files.

 

If that doesn't work, try them with the ISO 9660 setting. You could also try shortening the names to be 8.3 or 27.3 (per the manual) to see if that helps.

[JroTull]

No I don't think that has anything to do with the problem, since you are not using that "format" function to burn your discs. If you had been, then you wouldn't have been able to use the apps you listed (Music Disc Creator, Classic, etc) with that disc. Your manual is telling you not to do that and not to use the UDF option in Music Disc Creator. Just stick with the Music Disc Creator and the Joliet or ISO 9660 and you'll be fine as far as that goes.

 

Let us know how you make out with your tests.

 

Larry....

 

All test CDs failed. I picked up a 10-pack of CD-RWs and spent hours putting single and multiple songs onto them, while trying all possible option/setting combinations in the Music Disc Creator, Classic and Data disc. Every disc says ERROR in my jeep's player. An audio CD made with these discs plays just fine. I don't know, but I'm guessing that my jeep's player is EXTREMELY picky despite the parameters it lists as workable. I'd like to get this to work, but after about 20 hours spent working on this, I have to say I've spent enough time on this. I don't know what else to do so I give up unless someone has a good suggestion.

 

Thank you and others above for their suggestions. I appreciate them. Best regards and Happy Holidays!!

[cdanteek]

JroTull,

 

where did your mp3's come from, what source or software? Are they variable bit rate or constant bit rate? What bit rate are they?

 

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[JroTull]

Going by what's in that manual, I'm wondering if it's the length of the filename. When using Joliet, it doesn't say if there's any restrictions to the filename, but it also says that if you use anything but ISO 9660it may not play anyway.

 

Get some CD-RW discs (if you don't have any already) since it states those are usable. Those can be erased and re-used for testing.

 

I would use Music Disc Creator, and check the project settings. The screenshot I'm including is what I used (my player has different folder/file limit restrictions tho). Also keep in mind that my files were already mp3's which is why I set the keep/convert options like I did.

 

Try the Joliet option first with only one or two files.

 

If that doesn't work, try them with the ISO 9660 setting. You could also try shortening the names to be 8.3 or 27.3 (per the manual) to see if that helps.

 

*** Good idea Larry. I thought about getting a few CD-RWs and that's what I'll do so I can test various options. Regarding file formats, mine are also already mp3's but I kept the choice on "convert" just in case, so another option I need to explore is to DEselect conversion.

 

I also see that the manual says this: "UDF and Apple HFS formats are not supported." Last night I find that when I put in a blank disk and then right click on my E drive and select format, the default format that appears (and there is NO change option) says UDF!! Could that be my problem?? It also lists 15 directory levels and 100 folders max but I don't think that applies to me (does it?) because I'm just putting all of the songs into one folder.

 

Thanks again..... I'll start with the CD-RWs and advise..... have a great day!

[Larry]

*** Good idea Larry. I thought about getting a few CD-RWs and that's what I'll do so I can test various options. Regarding file formats, mine are also already mp3's but I kept the choice on "convert" just in case, so another option I need to explore is to DEselect conversion.

 

I also see that the manual says this: "UDF and Apple HFS formats are not supported." Last night I find that when I put in a blank disk and then right click on my E drive and select format, the default format that appears (and there is NO change option) says UDF!! Could that be my problem?? It also lists 15 directory levels and 100 folders max but I don't think that applies to me (does it?) because I'm just putting all of the songs into one folder.

 

Thanks again..... I'll start with the CD-RWs and advise..... have a great day!

No I don't think that has anything to do with the problem, since you are not using that "format" function to burn your discs. If you had been, then you wouldn't have been able to use the apps you listed (Music Disc Creator, Classic, etc) with that disc. Your manual is telling you not to do that and not to use the UDF option in Music Disc Creator. Just stick with the Music Disc Creator and the Joliet or ISO 9660 and you'll be fine as far as that goes.

 

Let us know how you make out with your tests.

[JroTull]

That's the same manual I looked at.

 

The first thing would be to make sure none of the file names you use have more than 12 characters.That includes the . and the mp3 file extension.That leaves you 8 characters for the filename.

 

Also from page 210 it says the player does not support playlists.I'm not sure if one is included if it causes the disc not to work.

 

What I meant by a data disc is to record the disc just like you would any other data disc.An mp3 disc is really just a data disc with a playlist.

 

Use Creator Classic and make the disc just like any other data disc you'd make.Add the mp3's and when you're done make sure the disc is closed when the burn settings pop up.Then try that disc and see what happens.

 

Another thing you could try is to use Music Disc Creator ,set it to MP3/WMA disc and make the disc.Go to Project Settings and uncheck all the playlist formats under Presentation Formats before you burn the disc.If you do this then a playlist is not generated.

 

That program you're looking at may not work.It says supported OS's are Winows NT and Windows 95.Good chance it won't work in XP or Vista.

 

What you can try is to just manually rename a couple of files,burn a disc and try it.

 

 

Let us know what you find.

 

T, neither CD worked. Back to the drawing board. I think my Jeep's player is extremely finicky. I'm about ready to give up the attempt to make these for my car unless you or someone else has a good idea. I appreciate your help!

 

[tbrewst]

In the place where you chose Joliet did you try one with the ISO 9660 chosen instead?

 

Other than that I can't think of anything that seems to be wrong from the disc making side.

[JroTull]

JroTull,

 

where did your mp3's come from, what source or software? Are they variable bit rate or constant bit rate? What bit rate are they?

 

cd

 

CD, almost all are 128 kbps. A lot are from Limewire and places like that. My son burns the same tunes on his laptop and plays them successfully in his car using the Data Disc option. Could it be that my car's player is too sensitive to the filenames? Should I take some tunes and rename them so their filenames are only a few letters long and then burn them to see if they'll work? Thanks...

[grandpabruce]

CD, almost all are 128 kbps. A lot are from Limewire and places like that. My son burns the same tunes on his laptop and plays them successfully in his car using the Data Disc option. Could it be that my car's player is too sensitive to the filenames? Should I take some tunes and rename them so their filenames are only a few letters long and then burn them to see if they'll work? Thanks...

 

I sure hope that you scan your computer for viruses.

[JroTull]

In the place where you chose Joliet did you try one with the ISO 9660 chosen instead?

 

Other than that I can't think of anything that seems to be wrong from the disc making side.

 

No, I chose Joliet. I'll make one more attempt at this with the ISO 9660 option. ALSO..... I'm assuming that you agreed with my choice of file renaming as I noted above. If not, please advise. I'll let you know. Thanks in advance. ~G~

[JroTull]

Have you tried just a plain Data disc in your car?

 

Could be the playlist that's being made isn't liked by your car.Try the plain data disc and see if it will play them that way.

If it does then the problem is probably the playlist format.

The data disc and the MP3 disc are the same except for the playlist.

 

Not knowing what year and model Jeep you have I did some looking around.Seems that the later models don't support Playlists.

Try the Data disc and see if it works.

Also what I saw was a 12 character file name maximum,including the extension (.mp3).

 

http://www.jeep.com/download/pdf/manuals/2...load-button.y=9

 

Page 208 in the above link has the MP3 instructions about my 2007 Jeep's CD Player. If you could take a look at this for me and make recommendations I'd appreciate it. WHAT IS A PLAIN DATA DISC? I did some onlne reading and found a program called RNAMEIT. You can see it's description here: http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,...escription.html Do you think it's worth a try if the above manual requires short character file names? Let me know after you check out page 208 etc. in the manual if you don't mind. Many thanks!

[gi7omy]

Try a different brand of media - blank CDs are like wine - there's good and there's plonk

[grandpabruce]

Also, as a test, burn 1 with less than the 255 songs, and see if it plays.

[Larry]

Also, recheck your cars manual to see if there are any other restrictions listed. For example, the player in our car also has a restriction on how many files can be in any given folder (which is of course less than the overall total # of files that are allowed on the disc). So in my case, I also have to burn them using multiple folders that do not contain more than that limit.

[JroTull]

Also, as a test, burn 1 with less than the 255 songs, and see if it plays.

 

I already tried that yesterday. I burned 1 song onto the CD-R and made sure the title/artist/etc. were "short" so there would be no problems with file types and it didn't work.

 

Also, recheck your cars manual to see if there are any other restrictions listed. For example, the player in our car also has a restriction on how many files can be in any given folder (which is of course less than the overall total # of files that are allowed on the disc). So in my case, I also have to burn them using multiple folders that do not contain more than that limit.

 

 

http://www.jeep.com/download/pdf/manuals/2...load-button.y=9

 

Larry, any chance you could look at page 208 in the above manual? That is what I tried to follow when making the discs. Thanks in advance!

[tbrewst]

That's the same manual I looked at.

 

The first thing would be to make sure none of the file names you use have more than 12 characters.That includes the . and the mp3 file extension.That leaves you 8 characters for the filename.

 

Also from page 210 it says the player does not support playlists.I'm not sure if one is included if it causes the disc not to work.

 

What I meant by a data disc is to record the disc just like you would any other data disc.An mp3 disc is really just a data disc with a playlist.

 

Use Creator Classic and make the disc just like any other data disc you'd make.Add the mp3's and when you're done make sure the disc is closed when the burn settings pop up.Then try that disc and see what happens.

 

Another thing you could try is to use Music Disc Creator ,set it to MP3/WMA disc and make the disc.Go to Project Settings and uncheck all the playlist formats under Presentation Formats before you burn the disc.If you do this then a playlist is not generated.

 

That program you're looking at may not work.It says supported OS's are Winows NT and Windows 95.Good chance it won't work in XP or Vista.

 

What you can try is to just manually rename a couple of files,burn a disc and try it.

 

 

Let us know what you find.

 

 

 

[JroTull]

That's the same manual I looked at.

 

The first thing would be to make sure none of the file names you use have more than 12 characters.That includes the . and the mp3 file extension.That leaves you 8 characters for the filename.

 

Also from page 210 it says the player does not support playlists.I'm not sure if one is included if it causes the disc not to work.

 

What I meant by a data disc is to record the disc just like you would any other data disc.An mp3 disc is really just a data disc with a playlist.

 

Use Creator Classic and make the disc just like any other data disc you'd make.Add the mp3's and when you're done make sure the disc is closed when the burn settings pop up.Then try that disc and see what happens.

 

Another thing you could try is to use Music Disc Creator, set it to MP3/WMA disc and make the disc.Go to Project Settings and uncheck all the playlist formats under Presentation Formats before you burn the disc.If you do this then a playlist is not generated.

 

That program you're looking at may not work.It says supported OS's are Winows NT and Windows 95.Good chance it won't work in XP or Vista.

 

What you can try is to just manually rename a couple of files,burn a disc and try it.

 

 

Let us know what you find.

 

THANKS T. I created a 3-tune disc for each of the two options you suggest here and I will try them on my way to work today. I had a question though for the MDC option. I already had all playlist formats unchecked, however what about the "File Naming" option?? I decided to "check" the option to rename, and then clicked on File Naming and in the next window I chose <Title> and Enable. Then back to the main settings window I chose File System "Joliet". Lastly, before I burned this MDC disc, I changed the titles to less than 8 characters just to be safe. I'll be trying this as well as the Creator Classic disc in 1/2 hour. I'll get back to you on the results of trying both. Wish me luck!! ~G~