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Backup Mypc Doesn't Get All Folders Files With Data Disc?

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I'm trying to create a backup using Roxio Backup MYPC (BUMP) 2006 - Data Disc to DVD. When I "ADD" a folder, it SEEMS to work. But when I check, not all folders and files are included in the list to be copied to the DVD. For example, I ADD folder named MHBackup20081129_204927640 which has 4 subfolders 0, 1, 2, 3 - only subfolder 0 is included and so on down the subfolders. It's almost as if BUMP is only bringing in the top folder in a list down to the end of the subfolders.

 

Am I missing something here? This behavior makes BUMP useless for Data Disc copies of files.

 

Thanks,

Bennie Gibson

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The term "backup" is used to refer to two very different things:

 

- a disaster recovery image for use if the computer crashes

 

- a copy of one's personal .docs, .jpgs, etc, which can be used on other computers

 

I'm confused which you are attempting. BUMP is a disaster recovery program - you can't use it to get files back unless you have BUMP - or at least a disc that will let you access the files.

 

Yet the way you describe trying to make it sounds more like you want a copy of certain files on your Hard Drive, which would mean you should be making a data disc.

 

Some clarification would be appreciated.

 

Lynn

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Hi Lynn,

 

Sorry - I just figured the "Data Disc" term would clue readers in - I should have been more explicit. I'm using BUMP Data Disc to copy specific folders / files to a DVD as a backup. I am NOT using the "BACKUP" feature which requires BUMP to do the restore. The problem is that, for some reason, when I select a folder using the Data Disc "ADD" function, not all the subfolders under the folder are included in the project to be copied to disc.

 

Thanks,

Bennie

 

The term "backup" is used to refer to two very different things:

 

- a disaster recovery image for use if the computer crashes

 

- a copy of one's personal .docs, .jpgs, etc, which can be used on other computers

 

I'm confused which you are attempting. BUMP is a disaster recovery program - you can't use it to get files back unless you have BUMP - or at least a disc that will let you access the files.

 

Yet the way you describe trying to make it sounds more like you want a copy of certain files on your Hard Drive, which would mean you should be making a data disc.

 

Some clarification would be appreciated.

 

Lynn

 

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Do you have BUMP as a stand-alone product, or as part of a Sonic or Roxio package?

 

If the latter, the best and safest way to make data discs is with the Data Disc application in Sonic's RecordNow or Roxio's Classic Creator, or any other Sessions-based application, including the built-in WinXP burning (altho WinXP doesn't do DVDs).

 

BUMP may think you are just trying to update. You could try making a new folder in the project layout, and dragging each of the files into that.

 

Lynn

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It's stand-alone Backup MYPC 2006. OUCH - new folder in the project layout for a 4+GB set of folders and files. That's a bunch of folders to create. I'll try testing a different set of folders and files to see if it's this particular set of folders and files causing the problem. It sounds like your reply is... "this should work" and BUMP should be copying all sub-folders - correct?

 

Also - isn't "Data Disc" in BUMP 2006 really just the Data Disc application from Sonic's RecordNow?

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Do you have BUMP as a stand-alone product, or as part of a Sonic or Roxio package?

 

If the latter, the best and safest way to make data discs is with the Data Disc application in Sonic's RecordNow or Roxio's Classic Creator, or any other Sessions-based application, including the built-in WinXP burning (altho WinXP doesn't do DVDs).

 

BUMP may think you are just trying to update. You could try making a new folder in the project layout, and dragging each of the files into that.

 

Lynn

 

 

One additional update... I just realized my company laptop has Roxio DigitalMidea LE on it (with the data disc application). I tried to create the same data disc project and got this error "One or more of your selected fields could not be added to the project". Looks like the same folder structure was placed in the project. Maybe this rings a bell for someone out there?

 

Thanks,

Bennie

 

It's stand-alone Backup MYPC 2006. OUCH - new folder in the project layout for a 4+GB set of folders and files. That's a bunch of folders to create. I'll try testing a different set of folders and files to see if it's this particular set of folders and files causing the problem. It sounds like your reply is... "this should work" and BUMP should be copying all sub-folders - correct?

 

Also - isn't "Data Disc" in BUMP 2006 really just the Data Disc application from Sonic's RecordNow?

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

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"Looks like the same folder structure was placed in the project."

 

Is this a set of folders in folders in folders?

 

I know Sonic RecordNow 7.3 Deluxe isn't happy about long file names - it simply said I had a problem and I had to figure out which folder paths had to be shortened. There were over 50 of them, and it took a while - perhaps it's just as well my vocabulary isn't adequate to express my opinion.

 

Roxio ECDC 5 simply said which file paths needed to be corrected, but it's history.

 

This is something I saved from the old boards:

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james_hardin wrote:

You are running headlong into two separate but related limitations, the Operating System and Joliet file system…

 

Joliet Standards:

 

Filename – 64 characters max

Pathname – 128 characters (full path + filename)

8 subdirectories max

4gb file length limit

 

Nothing is going to change that, not V6, V7 or anything else!

 

Operating System: NO, Win9x or NT operating system can read past those limits on a CD!

 

XP/W2K can read past them but then you have to be able to create a CD without using Joliet…

 

V6 & V7 can create such a CD but only if you choose UDF for the file system and set NO Bridge for the option. But keep in mind no Win9x/NT machine can read past Joliet limits.

 

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Additonal Information from James_Hardin:

 

Only thing to add, and this is important too, is to turn off Validate.

 

UDF

No Bridge

Validate – Off

 

Validate checks directory/file structure based on Joliet! Thus if you set the other two, it will issue a warning about file lengths, and you will be right back where you started.

 

Personally, I think that it is a bug but it appears Roxio does not agree.

 

If that is what it is, it isn't a problem with the program, it's the Red Book design standards.

 

Lynn

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It does appear the pathname length is the problem. In fact, both data disc and backup are failing. I moved the folder structure being backed up to the root for the hard drive and the backup worked. Most interesting was the error BACKUP gave me "device is unavailable" implying the DVD was not ready. So - lesson learned, don't have so many subfolders...

 

Thanks for all the input,

Bennie

 

"Looks like the same folder structure was placed in the project."

 

Is this a set of folders in folders in folders?

 

I know Sonic RecordNow 7.3 Deluxe isn't happy about long file names - it simply said I had a problem and I had to figure out which folder paths had to be shortened. There were over 50 of them, and it took a while - perhaps it's just as well my vocabulary isn't adequate to express my opinion.

 

Roxio ECDC 5 simply said which file paths needed to be corrected, but it's history.

 

This is something I saved from the old boards:

 

 

If that is what it is, it isn't a problem with the program, it's the Red Book design standards.

 

Lynn

 

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