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Can Creator 2009 Read And Convert Vor Files

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I would like to know if Creator 2009 can read VRO files that are recorded onto a DVD-RAM disk.

 

I have a Panasonic DMR-EZ28 DVD recorder and I would like to convert them to another format for editing and burning onto DVD disks. I can copy these files onto my hard drive but do not have a program that will recognize and allow editing or conversion.

 

I know that some programs will see VRO files as MPG files even though VRO is not listed as supported.

 

I am looking at the Creator 2009 Special Edition package that is sold at Costco.

 

Note- edit typo originally wrote VOR. corrected to VRO. sorry can't edit title

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Hello,

 

Here's the help screen from Video Copy & Convert 11. It just talks about DVD-Video in the table, but describes it some more in the notes.

 

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I would be willing to try it on one of your discs and return the disc to you immediately, but even if it worked in my full version, I can't guarantee that it would work in your Cut-Cost-Co version.

 

Note the sentence in the help page "The files supported by your version of the product may differ from those listed here" - that's because they don't bother to re-write the help files when they're making a cut-down version.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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hello Brendon,

 

I don't know if the Special Edition is a cut down version. it comes bundled with a USB device to import s-video, composite video and audio.

 

do Roxio techs monitor these boards? I assumed that was the reason this was labled sales questions.

 

thanks,

Gary.

 

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Hi Gary,

 

I don't know about the Special Edition either - I haven't been able to get my hands on one to see, and it has become impossible to guess which version is basic, ordinary, or deluxe since the guy in charge of naming them stopped taking his medication :(

 

This board was monitored by a guy from sales, but we haven't seen him since before the last series of layoffs.

 

I don't know about CostCo's return policy, but Roxio say they have a 30 day return policy for software bought direct from Roxio.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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As near as we can tell, the Special Edition is the Creator 2009 edition with the addition of the Roxio USB Capture device included… Here

 

RAM has never gained any popularity and remains a minority media. Of course your PC would have to have a drive that can read them or you are facing into the wind and…

 

IF your PC has a RAM drive then you are halfway there. VOR suffix is not listed (vob is) but if it has a IFO file in there is should be able to import. Likewise, if you can copy the VOR files to your HD and rename them mpg it will mostly work…

 

I say mostly because RAM can fragment files and copy will not get all of the pieces.

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thanks Jim.

 

looks like RAM disk is the Betamax of DVD recorders

 

I had a typo that I corrected in the original message. should be VRO file.

 

I do have a PC with a RAM compatible drive.

 

changing the extension to MPG doesn't work. interesting to note that my Dell PC running XP and my Dell laptop running Windows 2000 Pro can read and play the file, but my HP PC with Vista Home Premium can't. don't know if that is a Dell/HP thing or something that was dropped for Vista. also my HP is a Media Center PC. you would think that HP would want it to work with as many formats as possible.

 

Gary.

 

As near as we can tell, the Special Edition is the Creator 2009 edition with the addition of the Roxio USB Capture device included… Here

 

RAM has never gained any popularity and remains a minority media. Of course your PC would have to have a drive that can read them or you are facing into the wind and…

 

IF your PC has a RAM drive then you are halfway there. VOR suffix is not listed (vob is) but if it has a IFO file in there is should be able to import. Likewise, if you can copy the VOR files to your HD and rename them mpg it will mostly work…

 

I say mostly because RAM can fragment files and copy will not get all of the pieces.

 

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The VRO is not exclusive to RAM discs but is part of a VR (Video Recording) Format used by many of these devices. This is the directory from my Sony Recorder on a DVD-RW but recorded in VR mode:

 

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You may want to see if you Finalize or Close the RAM disc. Likewise check your manual to see if can be formatted in another recording mode… Again this varies. My Sony died but as I recall it could use record –RW in two modes, not sure. Likewise my Panasonic replacement will do –RW one way (VR) and +RW another. The +RW are ready to read in a PC but the –RW have to be Finalized in the Recorder before anything will play them.

 

Actually from what I have seen the DVD-RAM is very efficient and durable for rewritable media. It is ideal for video recording as well as data in a PC.

 

I keep meaning to get a RAM disc for my Recorder but it will be the only one of 4 in my house that can read it…

 

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Jim, some of the more recent DVD drives also have DVD-RAM support built in - my own one (Optiarc AD7191A) is DVD-RAM as well as DVD+/-RW, DL and CD-RW

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You may want to see if you Finalize or Close the RAM disc.

 

Actually from what I have seen the DVD-RAM is very efficient and durable for rewritable media. It is ideal for video recording as well as data in a PC.

RAM disks can't be finalized, at least not on Panasonic DVD-Recorder.

 

I agree that RAM disks are efficient and durable. that's why I mentioned Betamax. Betamax actually had better video quality, but lost out to VHS.

 

I got a reply from a Roxio tech. he said that VRO is not supported, but suggested changing the extension to MPG might work.

 

don't think that I want to go to the trouble of purchasing and installing Creator 2009 on a "might work"

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RAM disks can't be finalized, at least not on Panasonic DVD-Recorder.

 

I agree that RAM disks are efficient and durable. that's why I mentioned Betamax. Betamax actually had better video quality, but lost out to VHS.

 

I got a reply from a Roxio tech. he said that VRO is not supported, but suggested changing the extension to MPG might work.

 

don't think that I want to go to the trouble of purchasing and installing Creator 2009 on a "might work"

Your Panasonic will do other media too, why the hang-up on DVD-RAM???

 

Get thee to the store and bring thee home some Verbatim DVD+RW's and your problems are over! (I would avoid their 8X +RW's as some devices can't record on them)

 

That will eliminate your Record problems and they are usable on your PC and with Roxio. I see it as a Win, Win, Win, situation…

 

Edit: They do have a firmware update for your Recorder. Take a look Here and see if it is of interest to you.

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Your Panasonic will do other media too, why the hang-up on DVD-RAM???

 

They do have a firmware update for your Recorder.

 

I used to use standard disks, but I got spoiled by the RAM disks. it allows you to use the recorder like a DVR.

 

you don't have to wait for a program to finish before you can see it. you can start watching a program while it is recording.

 

and you can watch previous recording while a current program is recording.

 

most things I record, I use Windows Media Center, but when there is a time conflict I use the Panasonic and sometimes there is a show or scene I want to keep or copy for someone. if there isn't another showing I can record with Windows Media Center the only other method I currently have is play it in real time and re-record to my computer.

 

I have already installed that firmware update. it's a real pain. one thing they don't tell you is that when you do a firmware update it wipes out all your setup and you have to run channel setup which is really slow process.

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I've never tried it, but MyDVD is supposed to be able to edit an open VR disc. Run MyDVD and under FILE menu, select EDIT DVD.

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I've never tried it, but MyDVD is supposed to be able to edit an open VR disc. Run MyDVD and under FILE menu, select EDIT DVD.

Doesn't work. In the case of the Panasonic, DVD-RW discs are unreadable in all PC's and 3 other Players until they are finalized. Even ISO Buster balks on these!

 

ISO Buster will recover but only after warnings and a long scan.

 

The ones from my dead Sony were mostly useable. I have concluded that in the Video Industry, VR means anything they want it to mean, that day...

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I wonder if having DVD RAM disc would make a difference. I have a drive that can read/write DVD RAM, but I don't have any discs. I have a set top LiteOn DVD recorder. I'll have to play around with VR and see how it works.

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