Emc 9 Vs Creator 2009

[jperm]

I have EMC 9 already and wonder for editing video does Creator 2009 offer any obvious improvements to warrant the upgrade? Besides the video aspects does 2009 have any new strong features to also consider over V9?

 

Thanks,

 

John P

[sknis]

I still maintain that the Roxio help file is very poor. I again repeat my question: If MY DVD does everything that videowave does, what is the reason to use videowave or to include it in the Roxio suite?

 

But the forum answers are very good. In addition you might find these helpful. Most are for earlier versions but are still applicable:

 

Roxio Tips and Tutorials

karri's tutorial's

Mine

Tips and trick in this forum Note that other tips and tricks are available in the EMC 9 and EMC 10 forums-- most of them are applicable.

and (if you didn't find it) The instructional manuals.

 

Video Wave has many more editing options than does MyDVD. If there is a glitch in your project, you can more easily trouble shoot the glitch. You can output your projects to different kinds of formats. It is designed to be the video project (video/slide show) editor.

 

My DVD (as a stand alone) will work but not all options are available, trouble shooting is more difficult and it is designed to output to a DVD; not other formats. It is designed primarily to create menus, create navigation, encode and burn to a disc.

 

 

[mklein]

I have the same question as jperm. I also have EMC9 and get daily offers to upgrade to Creator2009. specifically I am asking if Creator 2009 has the following advances:

 

1. Does Creator 2009 have more than one video track or else does it support a transparent overlay track? I would like to overlay a second track over my main video track and make the overlay semi-transparent. ( I can do this in Adobe Premiere Elements). The overlays on EMC9 are opaque and obscure the underlying track. Also will I be able to overlay a video on top of another video? EMC9 only permits me to overlay a still.

 

2. Will Creator 2009 permit me to rotate a video 90 degrees(Again you can do this on Premiere Elements). EMC 9 only allows me to rotate stills.

 

3. Does Creator2009 allow me to extract the audio track from a movie I shoot with my digital camera and save this audio file for use in another part of my production? I have not been able to do this in EMC9.

 

4. Does Creator2009 have a better "help" menu than EMC9? I found the help on EMC9 almost useless. The only way I was able to master EMC 9 was because of my previous experience with the much better help of Adobe Premiere Elements, and many hours of trial and error., lots of error and redos. If only Roxio had put as much time and money into their "help" as they have put into their marketing.

 

5. One other question for the gurus: If you have the entire suite including MYDVD, why would you want to use Video Wave? My DVD has everything in Video Wave and more.

[Jim_Hardin]

I have the same question as jperm. I also have EMC9 and get daily offers to upgrade to Creator2009. specifically I am asking if Creator 2009 has the following advances:

 

1. Does Creator 2009 have more than one video track or else does it support a transparent overlay track? I would like to overlay a second track over my main video track and make the overlay semi-transparent. ( I can do this in Adobe Premiere Elements). The overlays on EMC9 are opaque and obscure the underlying track. Also will I be able to overlay a video on top of another video? EMC9 only permits me to overlay a still.

 

2. Will Creator 2009 permit me to rotate a video 90 degrees(Again you can do this on Premiere Elements). EMC 9 only allows me to rotate stills.

 

3. Does Creator2009 allow me to extract the audio track from a movie I shoot with my digital camera and save this audio file for use in another part of my production? I have not been able to do this in EMC9.

 

4. Does Creator2009 have a better "help" menu than EMC9? I found the help on EMC9 almost useless. The only way I was able to master EMC 9 was because of my previous experience with the much better help of Adobe Premiere Elements, and many hours of trial and error., lots of error and redos. If only Roxio had put as much time and money into their "help" as they have put into their marketing.

 

5. One other question for the gurus: If you have the entire suite including MYDVD, why would you want to use Video Wave? My DVD has everything in Video Wave and more.

 

 

Yes Creator 2009 will do all of that but then so does the EMC 9…

 

You really need to spend more time in the tutorials as well as the Tips & Tricks sections for EMC 9, EMC 10 & C2009.

 

Help menus are the same as EMC 9 too, very extensive but if you are looking for info on Markers, you would have to know that is what they are called.

 

VideoWave is your Editor. This is where all of the power lives but it will not burn 1 frame of video! For that you need an Authroing program and that is what MyDVD is. (Tips & Tricks - Strategy)

 

Then the question begs, if you are so pleased with Elements, why are you looking for a replacement?

 

[mklein]

Yes Creator 2009 will do all of that but then so does the EMC 9…

 

You really need to spend more time in the tutorials as well as the Tips & Tricks sections for EMC 9, EMC 10 & C2009.

 

Help menus are the same as EMC 9 too, very extensive but if you are looking for info on Markers, you would have to know that is what they are called.

 

VideoWave is your Editor. This is where all of the power lives but it will not burn 1 frame of video! For that you need an Authroing program and that is what MyDVD is. (Tips & Tricks - Strategy)

 

Then the question begs, if you are so pleased with Elements, why are you looking for a replacement?

 

 

Roxio EMC9-forum

 

 

 

Thank you for your response. I took your suggestion and went back and spent some more time on video wave and EMC9 and was able to resolve issues 1 and 2, i.e., I was able to create transparent overlays of both movies and stills and rotate them. It is interesting that this maneuver is possible only in the overlay track, not in the primary video track. Roxio help says nothing about this issue.

 

Regarding problem 3, my attempt to extract the audio track from a MVI file, copy it and save it to a file on my computer which I could later use on another movie, I was not able to do this. Have you done this and if so, how? I did find a work around of this problem again using overlays. If you wish to use the video of clip 1 and the audio of clip 2, you put clip 1 on your video track and clip 2 on the overlay track. You then mute the native audio of clip1 and make the overlay 100% transparent. This maneuver gives you the video of clip1 combined with the audio of clip2. Again Roxio help was of no use here.

 

Regarding video wave vs MYDVD

Video wave and MY DVD have almost the same screens and use the same help file.. I could not find any editing function that video wave performs, that could not also be performed on MY DVD. It seems to me that MYDVD is the same program as video wave, only with the DVD burning function added. Why create in one program and edit in another if you can perform exactly the same functions in one program, MYDVD? If you are worried about saving different versions of the same production in MY DVD, say a production about your vacation, simply same them under different names e.g., vac-1, vac-2, vac-3.

 

Why did I switch form Adobe Premiere Elements to EMC9? I bought APE first. I was later seduced by the relentless Roxio advertising. Also I needed to make backup my data files to a CD, something that APE does not do. I found to my horror that installing EMC9 destroyed my ability to burn a DVD in APE. Apparently my computer could not host two DVD burning programs at once. So I am now burning DVDs with EMC9 and have junked my APE. For commercial work APE is a much more comprehensive DVD authoring and burning program, with many more options for more video and audio tracks, and better control of effects and transitions; The APE help files are far superior to the Roxio help files. One glaring example to illustrate the inadequacy of the Roxio help files: Roxio help gives no mention to the most basic premise of DVD authoring: that the video clips you edit in Videowave or MYDVD remain unchanged on your hard disk and that if you change the location of a video clip after you include it in your production, you are screwed because the production cannot find the original video clip. You tell us this in your tips; why doesn’t Roxio tell us this at the beginning of its help menu? The downside of APE is that APE is a lot slower than EMC9, taking much longer to edit and to burn the same size video. For my purposes, which consist mainly of vacation videos and grandchildren pictures, EMC9 is perfectly adequate now that I have figured out these little tricks. I see no need for me to upgrade to Creator2009.

 

[Jim_Hardin]

I see no need for me to upgrade to Creator2009.

I am not connected with Roxio.

 

Upgrade if you like or don't, it is your choice.

 

[Beerman]

I have EMC 9 already and wonder for editing video does Creator 2009 offer any obvious improvements to warrant the upgrade? Besides the video aspects does 2009 have any new strong features to also consider over V9?

 

Thanks,

 

John P

I find Videowave much faster in C2009 than in v9. There's support for BluRay if that's something you're into. There's some audio help in the Ultimate version with Soundsoap and Sonic-Fire that might be useful to you.

[ggrussell]

that the video clips you edit in Videowave or MYDVD remain unchanged on your hard disk and that if you change the location of a video clip after you include it in your production, you are screwed because the production cannot find the original video clip.

ALL video editors work this way including APE. I own APE2, but don't use it.

 

If you move a file and then open a Videowave or MyDVD project file, you SHOULD get a dialog box asking to find the file. You can then point to the folder where the file was moved and the project will continue to open.

 

Since you started with APE, Roxio uses a different way of editing aimed more at beginners. The tracks are predefined to keep from confusing the user. Roxio also has something that Ape doesn't - internal tracks. When you place an overlay or text on these tracks, their duration is exactly the same length as that image or clip AND when you move that image or clip, all internal tracks move with it. They are all linked. Here is what you have in Videowave:

One main video track

5 video overlays

5 text tracks

1 FX track

Alll of the tracks are duplicated on the internal tracks so that gives you 11 video tracks and 10 text tracks and two FX tracks plus all the audio tracks. As I recall APE is more limited. If you do not see all these tracks then you can turn them on by clicking the SHOW TRACKS button in the Time line mode.

[mklein]

ALL video editors work this way including APE. I own APE2, but don't use it.

 

If you move a file and then open a Videowave or MyDVD project file, you SHOULD get a dialog box asking to find the file. You can then point to the folder where the file was moved and the project will continue to open.

 

Since you started with APE, Roxio uses a different way of editing aimed more at beginners. The tracks are predefined to keep from confusing the user. Roxio also has something that Ape doesn't - internal tracks. When you place an overlay or text on these tracks, their duration is exactly the same length as that image or clip AND when you move that image or clip, all internal tracks move with it. They are all linked. Here is what you have in Videowave:

One main video track

5 video overlays

5 text tracks

1 FX track

Alll of the tracks are duplicated on the internal tracks so that gives you 11 video tracks and 10 text tracks and two FX tracks plus all the audio tracks. As I recall APE is more limited. If you do not see all these tracks then you can turn them on by clicking the SHOW TRACKS button in the Time line mode.

 

Thank you, you are absolutely correct. I do appreciate the help I am getting through this forum. Until you gave me this information, I had no idea that you were allowed to insert more than one overlay track. Apparently you can do this both in My DVD and in Videowave. Roxio help never mentioned that more than one overlay was possibe. In light of these new facts, I will withdraw most of my criticism about EMC9 with relation to Adobe Premiere Elements 3. Both programs have their advantages and disadvantages. In addition the Roxio suite includes many useful nonDVD programs. I still maintain that the Roxio help file is very poor. I again repeat my question: If MY DVD does everything that videowave does, what is the reason to use videowave or to include it in the Roxio suite?