Emc Version 10 And Vista 64 Bit Os?

[scott784]

I purchased a downloaded copy of EMC 10 when it was first launched a year ago (Fall 2007). I purchased it directly off the Roxio web site. It worked great on Vista 32 bit with no issues that I discovered while using it. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for this program and Vista 64 bit.

 

Recently, I went through the long process of reformatting my hard drive and I am now running Vista 64 bit. I took it for granted that EMC 10 would work. Stupid me, I guess. Anyhow, this is just some feedback for the rest of you who might be running EMC 10 with the thoughts of reformatting and going with X64 Vista.

 

After installing X64 Vista and loading EMC 10, I noticed error messages on a daily basis. This led me into the event viewer where I saw the following information in the error logs:

 

Event 1060, Application Popup and then under the general tab it states "\SystemRoot\Sys\Wow64\Drivers\Aspi32.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software provider for complete compatibility." (Note-while it doesn't specifically say Roxio-the problem was traced back to Roxio).

 

Event 7026 and then under the general tab it states, "The following boot-start or system start driver(s) failed to load: RXFilter

 

This second error code and "RXFilter" is well known for being related to Roxio. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any known fix. Because the Roxio suite is so large and gets embedded in the registry (among other places), I played it safe and wiped out my hard drive for a second time!. Thankfully, I had a ghost image of X64 Vista with some bare bones programs saved on it to get me started again with the long process of loading programs (minus Roxio EMC 10!).

 

I can report now that since I have removed EMC 10, there are no more error codes 1060 or 7026 in the event viewer. So I have reached the conclusion that EMC 10 is not fully compatible with X64Vista. Perhaps, the retail version might be since Roxio offered some type of patch to retail buyers only as posted on this web site. However, I was never afforded the opportunity to try to update my initial version of EMC 10 so I suppose I will never know if the patch to EMC 10 (for retail buyers only) offered any types of solutions in this regard.

 

What I can say is the following. Now that the industry trend is rapidly migrating over to X64Vista, it is to be hoped the latest version of Roxio is FULLY compatible with X64 Vista!! I just wanted to share my experience with other users of EMC 10 to warn them about what they might be up against should they decide to install X64Vista with EMC10. I don't have the money right now to purchase Roxio 2009 and even if I did, I would want to be looking for more documentation about its compatibility with the X64Vista OS.

 

Anyhow, this was my experience after upgrading to X64 Vista and how EMC 10 created a lot of extra time and effort to get the my new OS stable. I hope in some way my experience may help others with similar circumstances.

[gi7omy]

On one point 'the industry trend is rapidly migrating over to X64Vista' is actually totally inaccurate

 

In fact, in the main, they're avoiding even Vista32 and sticking with XP.

 

In fact, I can't think of a single app (with the exception of some Anti Virus apps) that are 64 bit - almost everything runs in the X32 Program Files folder in the 64 bit OSs

 

Vista 64 does seem to be very problematic - I run XP64 here and don't have the problems that Vista 64 users have (and I don't have them in Vista 32 either) so it would appear to me that most Vista 64 bit problems are really Vista 64 itself

 

Also, a question for you - did you do the 10.1 update?

 

[scott784]

On one point 'the industry trend is rapidly migrating over to X64Vista' is actually totally inaccurate

 

In fact, in the main, they're avoiding even Vista32 and sticking with XP.

 

In fact, I can't think of a single app (with the exception of some Anti Virus apps) that are 64 bit - almost everything runs in the X32 Program Files folder in the 64 bit OSs

 

Vista 64 does seem to be very problematic - I run XP64 here and don't have the problems that Vista 64 users have (and I don't have them in Vista 32 either) so it would appear to me that most Vista 64 bit problems are really Vista 64 itself

 

Also, a question for you - did you do the 10.1 update?

 

gi7omy,

Store bought computers are indeed migrating over to the x64 bit operating systems. You don't have to look any further than Best Buy, Circuit City, or online stores like Dell. Now, I know custom built PC's made by enthusiasts or others can have any operating system and there is no doubt that Win XP still has much popularity. In any case, I wasn't here to promote nor discount Vista or the 64 bit operating system.

 

My only point is that there seems to be problems between EMC 10 and X64 Vista. It could be debated as to whether that is the fault of the software or Microsoft, but I am not taking an issue with that either. I am just saying that they do not seem fully compatible with one another. This has been documented by others and was also my experience. Since I have a licensed copy of both the 32 bit and 64 bit, I wanted to try X64Vista. Unfortunately, I cant use EMC10 with it without the problems I previously described.

 

As far as the 10.1 update, the posting states it was only available for retail owners. I purchased EMC10 online at Roxio a year ago so I that update was not offered.

[gi7omy]

The 10.1 update was actually a full replacement - so if you had 10 you could update, presuming that it wasn't at 10.1 already

 

If more and more people are switching to 64 bit OS - then why is Dell offering to 'downgrade' a computer to XP?

 

I will repeat - there are NO user apps (short of custome ones at round the $20K) that are built as a true 64 bit one.

 

MS wants to push the 64 bit (and Vista as a whole) but it has been causing a lot of problems that do not exist in the 32 bit OS. Doesn't it strike you as slightly odd that a supposedly identical OS with a 64 bit kernel is having problems while the SAME OS in its 32 bit form isn't?

 

I run a 64 bit OS here along with the 32 bit - XP32 and XP64 and, although it's based on the Server 2003 kernel, XP64 doesn't give me any problems - so why do the two Vista ones seem so incompatable?

 

Redmond is not above shooting itself in the foot - cast your mind back to ME which was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread. To me, Vista as a whole is just ME2

 

But then, box shifters are putting Vista into almost anything - I had the misfortune to try to set up a laptop for a customer that had Vista Basic on it - believe me, that machine took a full 15 MINUTES before you could do anything at all - it was running with the minimum MS spec which is as big a joke as the minimum spec for Creator 2009.

 

64 bit computers have been round for a long time now - but they were shipping with 32 bit OS as standard - then a big push came along to ship them with 64 bit OS. I'll let you read between the lines and ask 'why?'

[scott784]

Gi7omy,

You are taking issue with the 64 bit operating system of Vista. As I previously stated, the intention of my posting was not to promote nor discount X64 Vista to others.

 

My point was to share my experience (as others have) about the incompatibility of X64 Vista and EMC 10 (at least with the initial release version of EMC 10....... if not all versions of 10).

 

The fact is EMC 10 is known to have issues when loaded on X64 Vista. You can blame this problem on Microsoft or Roxio. However, the fact remains that the two do not mix well. I will say one thing though in regards to MS and Roxio, I do not believe there should have been a certification on the EMC 10 software as being fully compatible with Vista without a qualifier that the software is actually only fully compatible with the 32 bit version of Vista.

 

However, again, the topic of whether or not people should use the 64 bit operating system (for the reasons you stated), as well as others, is a debate which I was not here to engage in. As far as what OS anyone uses, I believe it is a personal preference, Gi7omy. However, that is a discussion that is best left to another thread.