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How Much Can One Production Handle

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im curious, how much video/audio can videowave handle? im putting together a pretty involved project, and im wondering if i might be pushing it too far. is it possible that you could add too much and run the risk of losing all your work? it seems like the further i go, the slower it is to load, save etc

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i did everything you said except number 3. its still messed up. i tried bringing it into mydvd to burn but it played messed up too. it wasnt as bad as it is in videowave, but the video had horizontal boogers in it..

is there anything else i can do? please help

 

also, after i cleared the poxy files, i lost all my audio!

 

No way you should have lost the audio unless you had previously deleted it and the proxy files thought it was still there!

 

Horizontal Boogers :blink: Sorry, can you describe that in more technical detail - could you mean pixilation (squares)?

 

Probably an artifact of your computer hardware. What video card are you using. Are the drivers up to date? Are you rendering (encoding) in software or hardware mode? Open VideoWave, top menu tools, options. Where is the dot; next to hardware or software? Run the test while you are there. Where is the dot after the test? Do not move it from software to hardware or the chances of your computer locking up are pretty good. You will lose any 3D transitions you have. The only other solution is to install a better video card.

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never deleted the audio but it wouldnt play after deleting proxy files.. i could still see it was there, and it was in all the right places, but it just would not play. i never saved it like that, so all the audio is still currently saved.

 

the boogers were some sort of pixilation, dont really know how to describe them. the video seemed to play on time correctly but there were some parts where hoizontal lines were visible. it was kinda like back when tv channels came through an antenna and the reseption was a little off.

 

rendering in hardware. i ran the test and i guess the number your looking for is 133 Mb/s. i dont know about the video card or drivers. where can i find the video card? i know this computer is only a year and a half old, its a dell inspiron 530 with vista.

 

again, i thank you for your help

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never deleted the audio but it wouldnt play after deleting proxy files.. i could still see it was there, and it was in all the right places, but it just would not play. i never saved it like that, so all the audio is still currently saved.

 

the boogers were some sort of pixilation, dont really know how to describe them. the video seemed to play on time correctly but there were some parts where hoizontal lines were visible. it was kinda like back when tv channels came through an antenna and the reseption was a little off.

 

rendering in hardware. i ran the test and i guess the number your looking for is 133 Mb/s. i dont know about the video card or drivers. where can i find the video card? i know this computer is only a year and a half old, its a dell inspiron 530 with vista.

 

again, i thank you for your help

 

As to the test, the number doesn't really mean much. After the test, was the dot near hardware or software?

 

Go to Windows>Start>Run>type in dxdiag>OK. When the window opens, go to the display tab. On the left will be your video card/chip information; on the right will be the driver number and date. Go here to see if there is anything newer. Double check the model to make sure the drivers are the correct one. The page I'm showing is for the 530 model; there is a different link for the 530s. After looking at the possible setup for that computer, unless you have the chipset and not a card, and if you have the right drivers, then you shouldn't get pixelation.

 

By the way, go to the control panel for the card you have set the card for best performance rather than best appearance, and set the Anti-ailising and anisotropic filtering to application (program) controlled. If you have an ATI card, it will look like the image below. If it is the nVidia card, then it will be a similar setting.

 

As to the test, the number doesn't really mean much. After the test, was the dot near hardware or software?

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under the display tab ,as you described, on the left i see chip type: intel® gma 3100... i dont see anything about a card.

under drivers it says main driver: igdumd32.dll version: 7.14.0010.1409(english) date: 1/2/2008

i didnt see anything newer at the link you gave me

 

What do you have 2 lines above that?

 

You probably don't have a card; just a chip. Render (encode) with the dot near software for best result with what you have. You will lose any 3D transitions that you may have in your project. If you try to render with hardware, you have a pretty good chance of hanging or missing sections, or other bad things. Perhaps Santa can get you a new video card for the holiday season.

 

 

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earlier today, i tried combining all of my videos into one folder on my hard drive like sknis mentioned as point 3. while doing that i renamed one of the videos. when i went back to videowave i got the message that the files had been moved and i needed to relocate them to continue etc. i had trouble doing that so i just put them back where they had been before. once i got through all that, i realized the video i had re-named was missing.. it wasnt a big deal because it was a short clip that i had added at the end so i just deleted it, then added it back into the production as the re-named video. well wouldnt you know it, after all of that, everything was back to running quickly again! 100% golden. do you think re-copying the videos back into my videos somehow helped things??

 

another interesting note: when i am in videowave, before i add any new video, i go to my videos.. find the video i want to add.. watch it in windows media player to find the point at which i want to add.. then go back to videowave and add it. well yesterday when i first started having problems, windows media player could barely play the videos... they were all froze up and stuttering. so to me, thats a sign that my computer is the problem, not videowave.

 

when things got better earlier today, windows media player had no problem playing videos with videowave open.

 

any thoughts?

 

 

 

 

What do you have 2 lines above that?

 

You probably don't have a card; just a chip. Render (encode) with the dot near software for best result with what you have. You will lose any 3D transitions that you may have in your project. If you try to render with hardware, you have a pretty good chance of hanging or missing sections, or other bad things. Perhaps Santa can get you a new video card for the holiday season.

 

 

 

 

name: intel® g33/g31 express chipset family

 

 

i tried switching it to software and that made the videos play much worse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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im curious, how much video/audio can videowave handle? im putting together a pretty involved project, and im wondering if i might be pushing it too far. is it possible that you could add too much and run the risk of losing all your work? it seems like the further i go, the slower it is to load, save etc

 

It should handle quite a bit but remember that you can only put up to one hour of best quality video on a single sided disc; up to two hours for DL. Almost double that if you don't mind poor quality video. Since you didn't mention it, I won't discuss Blu-Ray or AVCHD.

 

The slowness is because of your computer trying to handle lots of data. A couple of things you need to do

1) Keep your hard drive defragged.

2) Don't have anything else running

3) If possible keep all your video/images/music in one folder on a hard drive in your computer rather and an external drive.

4) If the processing gets slow or if you start having problems with editing so that things are not added/deleted properly, go to Video Wave and in the top menu, select tools>options then clear the proxy files.

5) Get rid of temp and TMP files so that you have lots of free space.

 

Note that when you are making a project, you are creating a roadmap with instructions. The roadmap does not have any video/images/music as part of the file -- just the instructions to go out and use this video/part of a video/image/music in a specific spot. That's why the files size if fairly small.

 

You didn't list your computer specs but those have a strong effect on the speed at which you can do something. Is you project one long project or can it be broken down to smaller movies?

 

 

 

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well i spoke too soon. i reached a good ending point so i decided to call it quits while i had the chance at around 9 minutes. everything was fine. an hour later i open it up to watch it and its back to playing all staggered and chopped up again.

 

do you think a video card would fix this? if so i'll get one right away. i was hoping to have this finished for christmas presents. im a little stressed out

 

thanks for all your time and help guys, i really appreciate it

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well i spoke too soon. i reached a good ending point so i decided to call it quits while i had the chance at around 9 minutes. everything was fine. an hour later i open it up to watch it and its back to playing all staggered and chopped up again.

 

do you think a video card would fix this? if so i'll get one right away. i was hoping to have this finished for christmas presents. im a little stressed out

 

thanks for all your time and help guys, i really appreciate it

 

:blink::rolleyes::):lol:

 

Yes, video watching is NOT the same as video rendering.

 

Find out what kind of slot is available (for newer computers it is often PCIe. Confirm with Dell and go to the local big box computer store. Buy what you can afford; no need to buy the latest, greatest, more expensive card. Look for a card like that and get one with at least 256 512 memory on the card. There are really two main players ATI (who make cards with their chips) and NVidia (they make the chips that other people use in their cards.) I'm partial to ATI.

 

A lot of people have their video card information in their signature check out some of those.

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its one long project.

thanks for your response

 

 

How long is a "long project"? :blink:

 

I never work with any project longer then 10-15 minutes. YOu can always combine projects later on. If something goes wrong the I might lose a short project but if something goes wrong with the "long" project you might have to restart the whole project (unless you save backup copies along the way)

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the entire project will be about 40 minutes or so. i didnt know you can combine projects. how do you do that?

when its all done,, i want to be able to bring it into mydvd as a whole and divide it into chapters. will i be able to do it that way after combine projects prior to that in videowave?

i think i could be in trouble here. my production is running so slow, and its really giving me problems.. videowave cant seem to keep up. the videos keep jamming up and playin in slow motion.. everything i do takes forever, even simple tasks. the production is around 8 1/2 minutes and is filled with content.. im starting to freak out a little.. ive probly got 40 hours in it and if i lose it i dont know what i'll do

 

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i did everything you said except number 3. its still messed up. i tried bringing it into mydvd to burn but it played messed up too. it wasnt as bad as it is in videowave, but the video had horizontal boogers in it..

is there anything else i can do? please help

 

also, after i cleared the poxy files, i lost all my audio!

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