Compatability With Sony Dru-865s

[ktkell]

I recently purchased a Sony DRU-865S DVD drive/burner. The operating manual notes that using software other than the supplied Nero 8 Essentials can cause system instability. Because Creator 9 was already on my Windows XP Pro system at home, I tried using it, and for awhile did successfully convert old audio tapes to CD's. The computer crashed more and more frequently until I could not make another CD without a crash. I uninstalled Creator 9 and installed the Nero 8 Essentials, which allowed me to once again burn CD's. I unfortunately spent a lot of time proving for myself that Sony's warning about a gradual deterioration of system stability was evidently on the mark.

 

I like the Creator interface and bought Creator 2009, but have not opened the package yet. Before I open and install it I would like to know if it is compatible with the Sony drive. The Sony documentation said that the application manufacurer may have addressed any compatiblity issues. If Creator 2009 is no more compatible than Creator 9, I have two options: go with Nero (would like to stick with Creator) or buy a new drive compatible with Creator.

 

Interestingly, I just bought a Sony Vaio laptop with Vista and a version of Creator 10 comes bundled with that.

[grandpabruce]

That warning is utter nonsense!! If your computer is up to snuff, you can run most any burning type software.

[cdanteek]

I unfortunately spent a lot of time proving for myself that Sony's warning about a gradual deterioration of system stability was evidently on the mark.

 

Sony, this is the company that brought the root kit pc infestation on their label audio CD's to the World, if you wanted it or not! The Attorney Generals of many U.S. States used the law to remedy that problem $$$.

 

You aren't serious, are you?

 

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[ktkell]

That warning is utter nonsense!! If your computer is up to snuff, you can run most any burning type software.

 

 

My initial thinking was like yours. That is why I tried to use Creator. The computer is an Athlon 64 on an MSI Neo4 board. In troubleshooting I went from 1 to 4 G of RAM, which I had considered doing any way. System sees 3.25 G which is about what I expected. All other applications work fine. All drivers are updated.

 

The Sony drive is SATA, and I took time to make sure all NVIDIA drivers were up to date. I put many hours in verifying hardwarae, drivers, etc. The system is stable with the Sony supplied Nero application, but not with the Creator 9 I have. Sony does not supply drivers for this drive, just lets Microsoft do the installation.

 

Like you, I find it hard to believe that a consumer would have to consider which applications would be compatible with a drive, but I think that may be the story in this case.

[cdanteek]

NVIDIA drivers

 

Use Microsoft drivers for the optical drive, the Nvidia drivers is probably the problem. Always was with IDE optical drives....

 

The system is stable with the Sony supplied Nero application, but not with the Creator 9 I have

 

Creator 2009 is the version your using? Explain in detail unstable??

 

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[REDWAGON]

Instabilty unless using Nero 8 is pure non-sense IMPO.

 

I too am curious as to what type of "instability" you are experiencing ?? That particular Sony drive is also LightScribe capable. Not sure if that is causing any instability but in checking the comments for that drive at newegg.com, I ran across this comment. Not exactly sure what the other users comment was all about but just in case, you might want to consider what they are talking about (Text attached).

 

Frank...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ktkell]

Instabilty unless using Nero 8 is pure non-sense IMPO.

 

I too am curious as to what type of "instability" you are experiencing ?? That particular Sony drive is also LightScribe capable. Not sure if that is causing any instability but in checking the comments for that drive at newegg.com, I ran across this comment. Not exactly sure what the other users comment was all about but just in case, you might want to consider what they are talking about (Text attached).

 

Frank...

 

 

To clarify a few points.

 

I am running Creator 9, have purchsed Creator 2009, but am trying to determine if it will work with the Sony drive before opening it. I thought the newest version may solve the issues I have been seeing, but then thought I would check to see if anyone had any info on this.

 

What I call instability are BSOD's, IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL and MACHINE EXCEPTION ERROR being the messages. At first there was an ocassional crash, but they became more and more frequent. Microsoft says to check hardware and check with software manufacturer. Crashes always occur when in Creator application.

 

The NVIDIA drivers I updated are for the SATA controllers. The DVD itself is using the Microsoft driver.

 

I had not installed the light scribe feature until I finally installed the Nero package.

 

The Sony manual warns about conflicts with their supplied software, specifically mentioning Roxio Copy to Disk.

 

I am not a PC expert, but have worked with electronics and computer systems for many years. I realize that there can be some assumption (sometimes about something embarassingly simple) that can lead to frustration. I am willing to try suggestions. It has been a couple of years with various changes since a clean XP install. It is hard to remove items completely. Possibly some old software/system bits and pieces are causing the problem.

 

ktkell

 

[cdanteek]

The Sony manual warns about conflicts with their supplied software, specifically mentioning Roxio Copy

 

Either post this warning or point to a online manual stating this Sony warning...

 

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[ktkell]

Instabilty unless using Nero 8 is pure non-sense IMPO.

 

I too am curious as to what type of "instability" you are experiencing ?? That particular Sony drive is also LightScribe capable. Not sure if that is causing any instability but in checking the comments for that drive at newegg.com, I ran across this comment. Not exactly sure what the other users comment was all about but just in case, you might want to consider what they are talking about (Text attached).

 

Frank...

 

There is a Windows CD burner as part of Media Player. Is there another XP burner? I don't know where that is to disable.

 

 

[gi7omy]

There is a Windows CD burner as part of Media Player. Is there another XP burner? I don't know where that is to disable.

 

You can't - XP has built in Sessions writing software (supplied by Roxio) and if you disable that you risk disabling Windows itself

[cdanteek]

Is this the Sony warning you speak about?

 

It came from page #11 of your operating manual.

 

Page #10 says your supplied Nero software is a 30 day trial...

 

 

cd

[ktkell]

Is this the Sony warning you speak about?

 

It came from page #11 of your operating manual.

 

Page #10 says your supplied Nero software is a 30 day trial...

 

 

cd

 

Yes. I was just providing the link when I saw your message. I believe the 30 day trial is for the two features that have an asterisk.

 

 

 

 

 

-second quote trimmed off by Brendon

[cdanteek]

Yes. I was just providing the link when I saw your message. I believe the 30 day trial is for the two features that have an asterisk.

 

Forget about the trial, I'm sorry I mentioned it!

 

 

Is that the warning you talk about??

 

cd

 

[ktkell]

Forget about the trial, I'm sorry I mentioned it!

 

 

Is that the warning you talk about??

 

cd

 

 

Yes, that is the warning.

 

[cdanteek]

You either mis-read what it says or don't fully understand what it says!

 

I have a least one Sony burner in three PC's. The Packet Writing Software co-existing is the problem, I hope someone don't come along and scold us for mentioning it.

 

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[ktkell]

You either mis-read what it says or don't fully understand what it says!

 

I have a least one Sony burner in three PC's. The Packet Writing Software co-existing is the problem, I hope someone don't come along and scold us for mentioning it.

 

cd

 

Thanks. Been getting enough scolding from the wife. And I thought production managers were impatient when computers had their process down. Trying to get this behind me so she can get back to her scanning, audio, and media work.

 

Had been thinking about a computer upgrade for awhile and may end up using Creator 2009 on the new Gateway i7 based computer. Local Best Buy is having a manager's special with $250 off, bringing price to $999. Would hope going to cutting edge doesn't lead to more bleeding. Could maybe build one with higher quality, more expandablity, but at this point just want something reliable and fast enough for the impatient one's work. Would keep existing one for experimenting and some work. Would be trying your suggestions on that later. Thanks again.