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Sony Hdv Hd Camcorders Not Recognized (mac Version)

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I have 2 Sony HDV HD camcorders. I connect them to the computer using firewire.

 

Neither camcorder is recognized by Mac Toast 10 when I try to capture video from them. The import screen does not change to show a connected camcorder.

 

Both camcorders - using the same firewire cable(s) - are recognized by the Mac for both iMovie and Final Cut 4, so neither the camcorders, the cable, nor the Macbookpro seem to be at fault.

 

Has anyone else encountered this. If so, is there a solution you can pass on?

 

Thanks.

 

Rick

 

Edit

 

Moved to the mac forum (was in EMC 10).

 

 

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I have 2 Sony HDV HD camcorders. I connect them to the computer using firewire.

 

Neither camcorder is recognized by Mac Toast 10 when I try to capture video from them. The import screen does not change to show a connected camcorder.

 

Both camcorders - using the same firewire cable(s) - are recognized by the Mac for both iMovie and Final Cut 4, so neither the camcorders, the cable, nor the Macbookpro seem to be at fault.

 

Has anyone else encountered this. If so, is there a solution you can pass on?

 

Thanks.

 

Rick

 

Edit

 

Moved to the mac forum (was in EMC 10).

 

If you have those software products and can capture using them why are you beating your head against a wall trying to figure out how to capture video using Toast?

 

Are you a recent convert to Mac coming from PC and Easy Media Creator? What part of Toast (application) are you trying to capture with? I did not think that Toast has any capture ability.

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Hi Steve. Yes, I'm relatively new to a Mac, so please bear with my misunderstandings. Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Pps. 102 and 103 of the manual seem to say that you can connect a camcorder via firewire and both control the camcorder and capture from it, either as a direct burn to disk or to save files for later use. Toast did not recognize my camcorder when I conected it, so I can do neither.

 

With either iMovie or Final Cut Express I haven't found how to save an HD movie imported from a camcorder to a non-compressed HD file on disk, one that can be used with Toast. All I can find that maintains HD resolution and properties is to write the edited movie back to a camcorder.

 

The main reason I purchased Toast with the HD plugin was to be able to save HD movies from my camcorder to a BR spec BD5 or BD9 standard DVD. That, plus staying within a single program, is why I want to import directly from a camcorder.

 

Rick

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what's the model number for the Sony HDV camcorders you tried to use?

 

I have two HDV camcorders, a Sony HDR-HC3 and a Sony HDR-FX1. As I mentioned, they both are recognized by Apple video programs but not by Toast 10.

 

I have the HD plugin for Toast installed. It would be inconvenient for what I'm doing but if I can save a full, uncompressed HD output file from the iMove / Final Cut programs that Toast 10 can read, that would be a temporary workaround I could live with.

 

Thanks.

 

Rick

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actually I just remembered this. Don't think you can capture in HDV with Toast. If you switch to DV mode, Toast would detect it fine. Same thing happened in Toast 9.

 

I don't think the HD plugin affects Toast ability to capture from camcorders since you can capture from AVCHD camcorders without HD plugin.

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actually I just remembered this. Don't think you can capture in HDV with Toast. If you switch to DV mode, Toast would detect it fine. Same thing happened in Toast 9.

 

I don't think the HD plugin affects Toast ability to capture from camcorders since you can capture from AVCHD camcorders without HD plugin.

 

I tried setting to regular DVD on the video import screen but the camcorders still weren't recognized. I have no idea what the problem is.

 

The manual seems pretty clear about what should happen at p. 102, steps 2 through 4:

 

2 Connect your DV camcorder to your computer via a Firewire cable

and set it to playback (VCR) mode.

 

In a few seconds, a camcorder icon appears in the Content Area.

 

3 Use the camera controls next to the camcorder icon to fast-forward or

rewind to the point where you want to begin importing. If you want to

import from the beginning of the tape, skip this step.

 

4 Click Import.

 

But, nothing happens.

 

Thx.

 

Rick

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I tried it with Sony HDR-HC3. In Standard Set, you need to change i.LINK CONV to On HDV -> DV then plug in the Firewire cable again.

 

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Hi Gaper1. I tried your suggestion of setting i.link to HDV>DV mode and Toast recognized the camera. However, in the Conv mode the Sony downconverted the picture to 720 X 480 for its output, which is much less than the 1440 X 1080 the camera records at ('tho the output is 1920 X 1080). The resulting picture on a BD5 is BR in format but unusable because the picture is vertically jerky and temporally uneven having gone through 2 conversions.

 

So, I guess I'm still stuck at not being able to copy a digital HD signal from my camcorder, which is quite a disappointment, since my Apple programs and ones on the PC side work perfectly.

 

I guess I'll have to submit a trouble ticket and see what happens.

 

Thx for trying to help.

 

Rick

 

I tried it with Sony HDR-HC3. In Standard Set, you need to change i.LINK CONV to On HDV -> DV then plug in the Firewire cable again.

 

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Hi Gaper1. I tried your suggestion of setting i.link to HDV>DV mode and Toast recognized the camera. However, in the Conv mode the Sony downconverted the picture to 720 X 480 for its output, which is much less than the 1440 X 1080 the camera records at ('tho the output is 1920 X 1080). The resulting picture on a BD5 is BR in format but unusable because the picture is vertically jerky and temporally uneven having gone through 2 conversions.

 

So, I guess I'm still stuck at not being able to copy a digital HD signal from my camcorder, which is quite a disappointment, since my Apple programs and ones on the PC side work perfectly.

 

I guess I'll have to submit a trouble ticket and see what happens.

 

Thx for trying to help.

 

Rick

 

Hi all

 

For the moment, HDV cameras are not supported and I apologize. You would need to import with iMovie or another application and then bring the video into Toast, as you've experienced.

 

 

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I hope Roxio can come up with a fix fairly quickly. Even though they are rapidly becoming a legacy system, HDV camcorders are still widely used in Pro and Prosumer cameras, as well as many consumer camcorders. And the majority of video editing programs - PC or Mac - enable capture from HDV camcorders.

 

While I won't be using Toast for final editing, I hoped that it would let me do a "quick and dirty" conversion to BD-5 DVDs to see how suitable a particular conversion would be.

 

Thx.

 

Rick

 

Hi all

 

For the moment, HDV cameras are not supported and I apologize. You would need to import with iMovie or another application and then bring the video into Toast, as you've experienced.

 

 

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