r_mewhort Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 My question is Why Can't creator classic sort long filenames?? When I try to sort a file list in creator clasic that has simalarly long file names creator clasic can NOT sort these files properly. eg. my file is this long 101 my file is this long 102 my file is this long 103 ... ... ... once sorted will come out like this my file is this long 101 my file is this long 103 my file is this long 108 my file is this long 102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I do feel the pain with this! I don't think it is as you suggest as my files are 23 characters long and the only change is in the last 2 so why would it scramble??? I also have mine set to UDF. But honestly I don't know how I would write a program that could behave like this I was curious and checked Creator Classic in V8 & V9 (v10 not installed). It behaved the same way… Interestingly, from the Home app, Burn Data Disc behaves as expected! It is the likely replacement for Classic but currently has it's own set of pain and limitations… One other thought for you. What about XP or Vista's built in burning? Just wondering if using Explorer to set up the burn might be easier for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Click on the folder in the left pane so the files are in the right pane. Click on the icon A-Z to select the sort. Click on NAME once to sort descending. Click name again to sort ascending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_mewhort Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 When the "system" writes a file that is greater then 8 charicters it will trunchade it to "6 charicters~#" now this is done in the order that they are writen to the disk. if you were to go to a dos interface I suspect (I havn't done this on my own yet) that if you did directory list (dir) you would find that it will list the files in the same order that roxio dose. Now I have used creator since 3.51(F or G) and I am used to the interface and am reasonably happey with the product. I also have 3 or 4 Versions of Nero Basic(from 4 -7), B's recorder gold5 basic, NTI's burning software which I have never used. I have found that the Adaptec / Roxio software has fewer isuess then these others that I have tried (note these software bundles come with the drives I have owned so are basic packages.) I only have 3 full software bundles and the only other package that I had respect after using was B's Gold 5. But becouse I couldn't get it localy in a full version and the basic will not recognize my newest lightscribe burner that is in the system I went back to ezcd. Like you said this is not a problem but an issue I am happy to continue suporting roxio. (note from at least 5 Platnum on the issue exists). As for using microsofts burning plugin I dont have enough faith in microsoft to even try to use it. (yes I know the plugin was origanaly provided by roxio). I have no idea about vista burning as I will not have that program on my comp to damb anoying but I hear that I might be happy with windows 7 we shell see about that (Time will Tell). I am a little sad that you say creator is going the way of the dodo bird as it is the only component that I regularly use ( read daily )I am glad that I didn't try and skip anouther gen of software before getting what ever was released after 2009. Call me stodgy but I don't perticulasrly like having to learn new interfaces as frequently as I do have to. Microsoft dose that to me enough every time they relese a new os. Thanks for your time sorry for the ramble. "Interestingly, from the Home app, Burn Data Disc behaves as expected!" are you saying that this app works properly or like classic. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_mewhort Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Jim I realize that garys picture is from creator classic. I was refering to the uper portion of the clasic interface as the explorer pane not windows explorer. I have to back up backups from a international company that has poor naming conventions. Note that the files are numaricaly coded by date but at the end of the file. And in a single folder it is not a problem as my email or your graphic shows. but as soon as you have to go back inbto subfolders on the project to find the last file so I can start a new set. (after burning the disk the file order gets messed up) as I look in the subfolders for the last backed up file per date. if I go into the Atlanta folder then the Washington folder the sort appers to be done on 8.3 sorting not sorting by long file names. Thank you for your time. Note I made a mistake in my email files are in this format. City_Country_Office_User_Date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 You'll have to give a better example or screen shot as I find this confusing. Per your first example, it seems to work fine in Jim's post. Creator Classic uses the same way of sorting files as Windows strictly alpha-numeric. If you files appear jumbled up, then the sort has changed like by file size or modification date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Jim I realize that garys picture is from creator classic. I was refering to the uper portion of the clasic interface as the explorer pane not windows explorer. I have to back up backups from a international company that has poor naming conventions. Note that the files are numaricaly coded by date but at the end of the file. And in a single folder it is not a problem as my email or your graphic shows. but as soon as you have to go back inbto subfolders on the project to find the last file so I can start a new set. (after burning the disk the file order gets messed up) as I look in the subfolders for the last backed up file per date. if I go into the Atlanta folder then the Washington folder the sort appers to be done on 8.3 sorting not sorting by long file names. Thank you for your time. Note I made a mistake in my email files are in this format. City_Country_Office_User_Date Like Gary I am also confused by what you are describing. What Atalanta folders etc, what format? What file order gets mixed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Rambling accepted… Burn Data works properly. Classic will disappear because the need is gone. XP has CD writing and Vista has CD/DVD writing in both data as well as packet format (all written by Sonic). Data disc writers are disappearing just like Memory Mangers did… Don't tell me you still have a Memory Manager on your PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_mewhort Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Rambling accepted… Burn Data works properly. Classic will disappear because the need is gone. XP has CD writing and Vista has CD/DVD writing in both data as well as packet format (all written by Sonic). Data disc writers are disappearing just like Memory Mangers did… Don't tell me you still have a Memory Manager on your PC well yes i do but that would be in the dos profile.. you know the one that runs the PD-Drive. and that is not on this PC and that comp dosn't get a lot of use any more but still have people who want their data converted to a more recent format (read on they can use) as cartraged pd-disks don't fit in DVD-Ram drives without removing the cartrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_mewhort Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 This has been sorted by name after the project has been burned. **note I made these text files in a random order so the 8.3 filename would not match the 0000 number. this is the sort problem I am having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_mewhort Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks for the reply Gary Russell Bt this is not the issue. It is not the explorer pane that is the problem it is the project pane that is the issue. I do lots of multi volume disks. I do NOT use roxio for the spaning process as it tends to try to make the best use of the disk and reorganizes the files away from the format that I would like them stored in. I use the project window to find the lasyt file that I added as I will add 1000 files at a tome and then prune them to fit the disk. Note I do 1 disk at a time per project. I don't know if this picture is going through corectly as this site wants a web bases picture. As this is a demonstration of the issue. I would say the project window is sorting from a short filenames. Thank you Ray Note on preview the pic dosn't go through. email me and I will send you the pic I was trying to attach. Email addy removed Please enter roxio in the subject line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Actually I can duplicate this All I had to do was click on the Name title in the Project pane and they scramble nicely! It is also completely irrelevant to the burn… No matter what order they are burned in, when you put them into Windows Explorer, it is set to use: So in the end, this is much ado about nothing. But it was confusing. FYI this is probably the last version that will even have Creator Classic in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Gary's picture is from Creator Classic and not from Windows Explorer… Classic will do just what you want provided you have them named properly… An extra space or a O in place of an 0 can drive you up the wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_mewhort Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Thank you Jim and you are right it is irelivent to the burn. but I was hoping for a solution as if you are using folders. when you enter the folder it will be scrammbled as well. and yes I can use explorer to find the last file on the disk / folder but was trying to minimize steps I have to use. some folders contain more then 1000 files so it is a pain going between software. Thank you for your time. note i'm pretty sure it is aphebeticly sorted but with the short file name not long file names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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My question is Why Can't creator classic sort long filenames??
When I try to sort a file list in creator clasic that has simalarly long file names creator clasic can NOT sort these files properly.
eg.
my file is this long 101
my file is this long 102
my file is this long 103
...
...
...
once sorted will come out like this
my file is this long 101
my file is this long 103
my file is this long 108
my file is this long 102
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