Blu-ray On Dvd-r - Menus Don't Work

[THX1965]

I can't get menus to work on DVD-R Blu-ray discs. I don't have a Blu-ray burner, so I want to take advantage of creating small Blu-ray projects on regular DVD-R's.

 

It only works when I turn auto-play on, so the movie is started automatically when putting the Blu-ray-DVD-R into the player. The movie plays fine but when it's done, the screen is stuck on black. It does not go to the menu that I picked. In order to play the title again, I have to eject the DVD and put it back in. I am using a brand new Sony BDPS-350 Blu-ray player.

 

If I create the same disc without the auto-play option, there is no way I can get the movie to play at all.

 

When people say Blu-ray menus now work in Toast 10 - does that mean they work for real Blu-ray discs and just not for Blu-ray/DVD-R's?

 

If someone got this to work, I'd be very curious to find out if I am doing something wrong.

[Dr.Video]

I have actually played a Blu-Ray disc with menu and chapter stops in a Sony S-300, so it would really be interesting to see what Sony has to say about what changed with the newer models.

[ComPH]

Dear All.

 

I was in my local AV store, looking to buy a new blu-ray player that will play AVCHD discs.

I took with me a couple of discs that I created with Toast 10, most players menus worked including Yamaha, Panasonic, Denon, Sony PS3, however the Pioneers and Sony's "didn't"

What I have found, when you create the disc and you hit "auto play" on insert, the disc will play on any machine.

 

Hope this helps?

 

Yes it does help. The Menus and chapter handling are separate bugs. Menus work on some Blu-ray players, chapters imported from editors do not work on AVC discs at all. Do you have model numbers of the players you tested? Did you check any Samsungs? Perhaps we should start a list of working models, features and S/W revisions. It doesn't appear that Roxio will do that for us. Apple has a list of camcorders compatible with iMacs and their S/W. Similar list would be helpful here.

PS3 - AVC/Blu-ray works - Menus work - imported chapters don't - all S/W revisions.

 

[MisterCookie]

You can add Sony BDP-BX1 model too to the non menu playing list. It was sold at Costco.

[MisterCookie]

I see that Costco is now selling the BDP-BX2. I wonder if that model can handle the Toast Blueray menus?

 

You can add Sony BDP-BX1 model too to the non menu playing list. It was sold at Costco.

 

[patatrox]

Short answer for everyone above:

 

Yes, there are some players mentioned above that BROKE AVCHD playback for many discs, not just Toast created ones.

 

For the players showing black menus with the yellow highlight but no background, a fix will be in the next Toast update that also adds full Snow Leopard compatibility.

 

 

[MisterCookie]

So Roxio is saying it's Sony and Pioneer's fault, and that Roxio has a workaround.

If my BD player has some faulty firmware I'd want to take it back to get one that handled AVCHD properly.

 

Good think I bought it at Costco.

 

Short answer for everyone above:

 

Yes, there are some players mentioned above that BROKE AVCHD playback for many discs, not just Toast created ones.

 

For the players showing black menus with the yellow highlight but no background, a fix will be in the next Toast update that also adds full Snow Leopard compatibility.

 

[yukiotoko]

So Roxio is saying it's Sony and Pioneer's fault, and that Roxio has a workaround.

If my BD player has some faulty firmware I'd want to take it back to get one that handled AVCHD properly.

 

Good think I bought it at Costco.

 

<!--quoteo(post=291098:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:40 PM:name=patatrox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (patatrox @ Sep 18 2009, 09:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=291098"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Short answer for everyone above:

 

Yes, there are some players mentioned above that BROKE AVCHD playback for many discs, not just Toast created ones.

 

For the players showing black menus with the yellow highlight but no background, a fix will be in the next Toast update that also adds full Snow Leopard compatibility.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[inasimplerhyme]

I just burned my first Blu-ray disc using Toast Titanium (not Pro) with the plugin. I took several EyeTV recordings and used the Mystic menu option checking both "Auto-play disc on insert" and "play all items continuously". The disc plays fine, but pressing the menu button does nothing. When I go to the last video on the disc, it automatically loops and plays the first video. I'm using a Sony BDP-N460 Blu-ray player. I opened a ticket with Roxio and will post if they have any ideas, but from what I've read so far, it sounds like it is what it is.

-Jon

p.s. One cool thing: Before I burned the TV episodes to disc, I used EyeTV to remove all the commercials. Toast recognized those break points and automatically put chapter marks there. Very nice.

[inasimplerhyme]

I just burned my first Blu-ray disc using Toast Titanium (not Pro) with the plugin. I took several EyeTV recordings and used the Mystic menu option checking both "Auto-play disc on insert" and "play all items continuously". The disc plays fine, but pressing the menu button does nothing. When I go to the last video on the disc, it automatically loops and plays the first video. I'm using a Sony BDP-N460 Blu-ray player. I opened a ticket with Roxio and will post if they have any ideas, but from what I've read so far, it sounds like it is what it is.

-Jon

p.s. One cool thing: Before I burned the TV episodes to disc, I used EyeTV to remove all the commercials. Toast recognized those break points and automatically put chapter marks there. Very nice.

 

 

Update: While the menu button does nothing, I have a second button on my remote called, "Top Menu", and that does in fact bring up the Toast menu screen.

 

-Jon

[Triumph]

You could downloaded it yourself.

But patatrox did say there would be a second beta 10.0.3b2 (first week of june) but there is still b1

 

 

And there is now b3

[pruthe]

Innerscape,

 

Thanks for this info.

[innerscape]

Dear All.

 

I was in my local AV store, looking to buy a new blu-ray player that will play AVCHD discs.

I took with me a couple of discs that I created with Toast 10, most players menus worked including Yamaha, Panasonic, Denon, Sony PS3, however the Pioneers and Sony's "didn't"

What I have found, when you create the disc and you hit "auto play" on insert, the disc will play on any machine.

 

Hope this helps?

[pupdocdiver]

Updated to Toast 10.0.2 today. Menus still not working with Sony BDP S550.

updated firmware on Sony BDP S550 today. Still no menu funtionality

[pupdocdiver]

Updated to Toast 10.0.2 today. Menus still not working with Sony BDP S550.

[ComPH]

N.A.

[gbmarc]

Just to confirm what everyone else is seeing.

I have a Sony BDP-350 with latest firmware.

I am experimenting with TOAST 10 and a rewritable BD.

The menus are all messed up. I tried the "spotlight" menu. I can actually get the yellow square to come up, and if you fiddle around with the direction arrows and the center 'enter' key on the remote, then I can eventually get the movie to play. But it's not a workable solution of course.

 

For now I'm just going to make the movie play automatically with no menu.

 

Incidently on a slightly different subject. I tried making a 25fps m2v file in compressor for PA usage and my USA Sony BDP-350, and it just went black and shut down. I guess it can't do PAL frame rates, but it would have been nice to have an on-screen error.

 

Mark.

 

[icemantx]

From what I've read here, Continuous Playback could be your problem.

 

Tried that to - no luck 3 more coasters later... According to what I have read on other forums, it could be that Samsung screwed up the Firmware and now has broken support for AVCHD discs...

 

So far I have made coasters out of about 10 discs and I am pretty much convinced it is not Toast, but a problem with the player. Samsung said I can mail it in for service, however I am doubtful they will provide a fix as it appears to be a Firmware problem...

[Dr.Video]

From what I've read here, Continuous Playback could be your problem.

 

 

 

[icemantx]

If you post all your settings, maybe I can figure out what's wrong. I fairly new to this as well. It could just be your player. Is the firmware up-to-date?

 

Just updated the firmware a few minutes ago as I realized it was old firmware from November 2008 and now trying to burn a new AVCHD DVD right now. Just waiting on Toast to encode then burn to the DVD-R. I threw out the other discs so I do not have them to try so making a new one with a newly exported iMovie clip about 5 minutes long. The settings I have are pretty much just the settings that they have on by default such as the menus, auto start, continuously playback...

 

I will post what happens with the new disc as soon as Toast is done.

[Dr.Video]

Can you let help me out with how you authored the disc to work on the Samsung 1500? I have made 3 coasters so far and I am about to try a 4th time with a fresh export of the video in Quicktime format from iMovie then onto Toast 10 for burning.

 

 

If you post all your settings, maybe I can figure out what's wrong. I fairly new to this as well. It could just be your player. Is the firmware up-to-date?

[icemantx]

I have also created a AVCHD disc that plays fine in a Samsung 1500 but will not play in a 1400. Go figure!

 

Can you let help me out with how you authored the disc to work on the Samsung 1500? I have made 3 coasters so far and I am about to try a 4th time with a fresh export of the video in Quicktime format from iMovie then onto Toast 10 for burning.

[Dr.Video]

I have tried the same Blu-Ray disc (w/ menu) in two different Sony S-350s. One played it and one did not. Both had up-to-date firmware. I have also created a AVCHD disc that plays fine in a Samsung 1500 but will not play in a 1400. Go figure!

[icemantx]

I am having similar problems with Toast 10 and burning an AVCHD to a DVD-R disc. I have a Samsung BD-P1500 player that is supposedly compatible with AVCHD, but I have already made three coasters using Toast 10 on my new iMac. I tried straight from Toast, then tried as a Disc Image using Toast, then without menus but all three times the disc was not readable by the Samsung player.

 

The original footage was imported to my iMac from my Canon HF-10 camcorder using iMovie '09. The footage was not edited and my video project in Toast has 3 short clips totaling about 5 minutes.

 

Is there some trick to getting a functioning DVD-R AVCHD disc out of Toast 10? Having spent the money on this app, I am a little disappointed that I cannot get it to do what I bought it for...

[Videoberrry]

We're aware of these issues and working to resolve them, that said this absolutely doesn't occur on all (or most) players. In some cases firmware updates have introduced this behavior which is why we see this issue more recently and it was not prevalent in the Toast 9 product cycle. We may need more information on this in the near future but we do have a player in house which exhibits this issue and we are working on it.

 

Are you saying that there are Sony BDP-350's and Sony BDP-550's, etc. out there that WILL work with Toast 10, or are you referring to all the other brands? This problem hasn't been resolved in the last three months. Can you estimate how much longer it will take for you to come up with a fix?

[Cycloon]

I can tell you in advance, it won't make a difference. I've got the bdp-05fd and 10.0.1, doesn't help..

I have however opened a support ticket with roxio, but until now none of their suggestions have helped.

 

I think its best if we all opened up support tickets, because i believe roxio isnt aware of these problems/bugs with toast.

 

Thank you for contacting Roxio Technical Support

 

Currently, there are still a number of unresolved technical issues resulting from the multitude of non-standardized BluRay encryptions. Therefore, it cannot yet be guaranteed that all BluRay content can play on all BluRay hardware or can be recognized by all BluRay software across the board.

 

Our engineering department is working on a solution to this problem. In the meantime we would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused.

 

Regards,

Roxio Technical Support

http://support.roxio.com

 

So it seems for now we will have to keep our fingers crossed and hope for a fix, but considering this problem was already present in toast 9(and still is), don't bet on the release of a fix we all are hoping for....

Perhaps the people from roxio only test their products on a ps3 ?