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i am having trouble with TDK DVD-R disk's (1-16x speed/4.7gb)

 

I have burned several image.iso's with Video Copy & Convert onto Maxell DVD-R 8x speed/4.7 gb with no problems. but i recently ordered a 50 stack of the TDK's and the same exact imag.iso does not play correctly as it did on the Maxell's. Most of it plays fine but theres boogers (small square-like digital imperfections) accompanied with the audio cutting in and out in some places including the menus.

 

does it have something to do with the write speed i am burning at? i burned both the maxell and the tdk's at 8x... the tdk's are listed as 16x but copy and convert doesnt offer 16x. i thought burning at a slower speed wouldnt be a problem? was i wrong?

 

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i am having trouble with TDK DVD-R disk's (1-16x speed/4.7gb)

 

I have burned several image.iso's with Video Copy & Convert onto Maxell DVD-R 8x speed/4.7 gb with no problems. but i recently ordered a 50 stack of the TDK's and the same exact imag.iso does not play correctly as it did on the Maxell's. Most of it plays fine but theres boogers (small square-like digital imperfections) accompanied with the audio cutting in and out in some places including the menus.

 

does it have something to do with the write speed i am burning at? i burned both the maxell and the tdk's at 8x... the tdk's are listed as 16x but copy and convert doesnt offer 16x. i thought burning at a slower speed wouldnt be a problem? was i wrong?

 

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No, you are not wrong, but you may want to look for a firmware update for your burner, if VC&C does not offer burning at 16x. Burning at 4x or 8x will give you the best chance of compatibility with all DVD players.

 

Aside from that, I would use nothing but Verbatim, or Taiyo Yuden media for my burning.

 

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im still having trouble getting these disk's to play correctly. ive tried burn speeds 4X, 8X, and 16X on a number of different disk brands... my fairly new samsung dvd player plays all of them fine, my 10 year old rca plays the movie fine but the menus are all screwed up, and my dell desktop plays the menus fine but the first 20 seconds or so of the movie is all screwed up.

ive burned them all with video copy and convert at described before.

grandpabruce, you suggested i get a firmware update... where would you suggest (or anyone suggest) i get that?

any other help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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im still having trouble getting these disk's to play correctly. ive tried burn speeds 4X, 8X, and 16X on a number of different disk brands... my fairly new samsung dvd player plays all of them fine, my 10 year old rca plays the movie fine but the menus are all screwed up, and my dell desktop plays the menus fine but the first 20 seconds or so of the movie is all screwed up.

ive burned them all with video copy and convert at described before.

grandpabruce, you suggested i get a firmware update... where would you suggest (or anyone suggest) i get that?

any other help would be greatly appreciated.

 

thanks

 

First, you get a firmware update, for your burner, from manufacturer's website.

 

Second, I believe that the Samsung set top DVD players have problems with AC3 audio. If you burned those .iso files, in MyDVD, open your production (not the .iso file) in MyDVD. Click on File/Project settings, and uncheck the Fit to Disc box. Then click on High Quality, and in the dropdown box, for Audio format, select LPCM. Click OK, then save your project.

 

Now, burn to an .iso file again, then burn to a DVD with VC&C. See if your problems clear up.

 

 

 

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First, you get a firmware update, for your burner, from manufacturer's website.

 

Second, I believe that the Samsung set top DVD players have problems with AC3 audio. If you burned those .iso files, in MyDVD, open your production (not the .iso file) in MyDVD. Click on File/Project settings, and uncheck the Fit to Disc box. Then click on High Quality, and in the dropdown box, for Audio format, select LPCM. Click OK, then save your project.

 

Now, burn to an .iso file again, then burn to a DVD with VC&C. See if your problems clear up.

 

i just went to dells website, and theres about 15 different cd/dvd firmware downloads available for my machine. is there something specifically i should be looking for? i get nervous downloading anything from the web

 

my samsung dvd player is the only one that i dont have a problem with. my desktop and rca dvd player are the ones having issues. but im most concerned about other people having trouble playing it on their players. im planning on selling this dvd at shows, so i want to be sure it will play correctly no matter what kind of player is used.

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i just went to dells website, and theres about 15 different cd/dvd firmware downloads available for my machine. is there something specifically i should be looking for? i get nervous downloading anything from the web

 

my samsung dvd player is the only one that i dont have a problem with. my desktop and rca dvd player are the ones having issues. but im most concerned about other people having trouble playing it on their players. im planning on selling this dvd at shows, so i want to be sure it will play correctly no matter what kind of player is used.

 

There is no way that you can guarantee that every player -- new or old, maintained or dirty, Samsung or Sony or Invicta, or any other variation- will play the DVD.

 

Best bet, break down and get some DVD-R, use Taiyo Yuden brand and make sure that image (ISO) file plays correctly with VLC on your computer.

 

The fact that your new Samsung model plays the disc correctly usually means that the disc was burned correctly. Clean those other players. Go to the local Best Buy, Fry's, Sears, etc and try it on some of their machines.

 

BTW, the process used for commercial disc (pressed) is different than that for home burned; that is why they usually play on most players.

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what does VLC stand for?

 

how do you safely clean a dvd player? btw my other players play commercial and other burned dvd flawlessly.

 

maybe i should just pay someone to press the dvd's professionally... but of course i have to get at least one burned correctly first..

 

frustrating

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what does VLC stand for?

 

how do you safely clean a dvd player? btw my other players play commercial and other burned dvd flawlessly.

 

maybe i should just pay someone to press the dvd's professionally... but of course i have to get at least one burned correctly first..

 

frustrating

 

It's the name of a program. Type that, into your browser's search box, and you will find it.

 

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i downloaded VLC and the iso file seems to be playing fine so thats good.

 

and 100 Taiyo Yuden 8x 4.7 gb dvd-r's are on the way to my door. in reading some of the info about taiyo yuden i found some pretty impressive stats:

widest recording and playback compatibility

fewest rejects with failure rate of less than .006%... thats incredible

 

i'm hoping this will take care of my problems so i can finally put an end to this project

 

thanks guys

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i downloaded VLC and the iso file seems to be playing fine so thats good.

 

and 100 Taiyo Yuden 8x 4.7 gb dvd-r's are on the way to my door. in reading some of the info about taiyo yuden i found some pretty impressive stats:

widest recording and playback compatibility

fewest rejects with failure rate of less than .006%... thats incredible

 

i'm hoping this will take care of my problems so i can finally put an end to this project

 

thanks guys

 

You're welcome, and let us know how it turns out.

 

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here we go again...

i just burned a few test runs on Taiyo Yuden dvd-r's. i used both video copy & convert and i burned to disc directly from mydvd. same results. i played them on 4 different players:

desktop: first 20 seconds the audio studders, other than that plays ok

new samsung dvd player: everything plays fine

pioneer player/burner: everything plays fine

old rca player: played them fine until i put labels on them. i didnt know labels could give players problems.. could someone please shed some light on that.

 

just to be sure, i played the .iso with vlc and it plays beautifully.

 

what should i do?

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here we go again...

i just burned a few test runs on Taiyo Yuden dvd-r's. i used both video copy & convert and i burned to disc directly from mydvd. same results. i played them on 4 different players:

desktop: first 20 seconds the audio studders, other than that plays ok

new samsung dvd player: everything plays fine

pioneer player/burner: everything plays fine

old rca player: played them fine until i put labels on them. i didnt know labels could give players problems.. could someone please shed some light on that.

 

just to be sure, i played the .iso with vlc and it plays beautifully.

 

what should i do?

 

Get rid of the labels. Put a "label" on them using a Light scribe labeling system or "paint) them on with a printer that will print on a DVD. If papers labels are not perfect, the can cause a wobble in the spinning disc that could be disastrous.

 

The important thing is that they played on 3 different DVD players so you are on your way. When you played the disc on your computer, was anything else running?

 

Did the audio stutter happen on ALL the DVDs you burned? What program did you use? VLC will play those disc also.

 

i have 5 different players on my computer and ain't one of them worth a #$^@ when playing DVDs -- some are less bothersome than others. A lot depends on your video card settings and you audio settings. Both can be adjusted with Windows>Run>dxdiag> OK. Turn down the audio acceleration to start then you might want to consider turning down the video acceleration.

 

 

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here we go again...

i just burned a few test runs on Taiyo Yuden dvd-r's. i used both video copy & convert and i burned to disc directly from mydvd. same results. i played them on 4 different players:

desktop: first 20 seconds the audio studders, other than that plays ok

new samsung dvd player: everything plays fine

pioneer player/burner: everything plays fine

old rca player: played them fine until i put labels on them. i didnt know labels could give players problems.. could someone please shed some light on that.

 

just to be sure, i played the .iso with vlc and it plays beautifully.

 

what should i do?

 

Labels, if not positioned properly, can throw off the balance of the disc; therefore, problems. Sharpies work better. :)

 

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Get rid of the labels. Put a "label" on them using a Light scribe labeling system or "paint) them on with a printer that will print on a DVD. If papers labels are not perfect, the can cause a wobble in the spinning disc that could be disastrous.

 

The important thing is that they played on 3 different DVD players so you are on your way. When you played the disc on your computer, was anything else running?

 

Did the audio stutter happen on ALL the DVDs you burned? What program did you use? VLC will play those disc also.

 

i have 5 different players on my computer and ain't one of them worth a #$^@ when playing DVDs -- some are less bothersome than others. A lot depends on your video card settings and you audio settings. Both can be adjusted with Windows>Run>dxdiag> OK. Turn down the audio acceleration to start then you might want to consider turning down the video acceleration.

 

thank you guys for your responses.

i played them on my computer with windows media player with nothing else running and all the dvd's had the stutter... however, i just tried vlc and it played just fine. so thats a relief.

 

so as far as i can tell,, this is probably the best it is gonna get as far as playability goes. but as far as the labels are concerend i will ditch the paper labels and try to find a scriber or a dvd printer as mentioned.

 

thanks again guys.

 

 

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thank you guys for your responses.

i played them on my computer with windows media player with nothing else running and all the dvd's had the stutter... however, i just tried vlc and it played just fine. so thats a relief.

 

so as far as i can tell,, this is probably the best it is gonna get as far as playability goes. but as far as the labels are concerend i will ditch the paper labels and try to find a scriber or a dvd printer as mentioned.

 

thanks again guys.

 

If you plan on making a lot of discs, know that lightscribe is slow. Over 30 minutes for a minimally complex design.

 

I would go with a direct print onto disc. There are several; I have a refirb Epson R800 but depending on your budget you can go pretty inexpensively such as this one. Note that ink use is not a major concern. When you run out of the TaiyoYuden discs, buy the same brand with the water resistant/slightly glossy finsih. They look very professional.

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