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Some more information please. Are you talking digital "still" camera or digital camcorder (what kind?)? How did you get the video from camera to hard drive? What program from C2009 are you using: Videowave, myDVD, Videp Copy & Convert, Cinemagic? Without that information nobody can help.

 

I'm not the original poster of this question/situation, but I too am having trouble with the audio. I have my digital camcorder connected through an external video capture device that accepts input through both RCA (L, R, and Video) connections or s-video. I have successfully captured my video clips through the device with the RCA connectors. But with the s-video connection from the camcorder, the video comes through just fine, but there is no audio. Is there something I'm missing with using the s-video connection? The capturing is done via the Media Import module of C2009.

 

TIA for any help.

 

Nadine

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But with the s-video connection from the camcorder, the video comes through just fine, but there is no audio. Is there something I'm missing with using the s-video connection? The capturing is done via the Media Import module of C2009.

In case it's this simple, S-video doesn't carry audio, so you do need to have audio connections in place as well as the s-video cable.

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I'm not the original poster of this question/situation, but I too am having trouble with the audio. I have my digital camcorder connected through an external video capture device that accepts input through both RCA (L, R, and Video) connections or s-video. I have successfully captured my video clips through the device with the RCA connectors. But with the s-video connection from the camcorder, the video comes through just fine, but there is no audio. Is there something I'm missing with using the s-video connection? The capturing is done via the Media Import module of C2009.

 

TIA for any help.

 

Nadine

 

What type of digital camcorder is it? If it uses the miniDV tapes, you should be using a firewire cable to capture the video.

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I am suddenly getting a rather odd anomaly when capturing video. There are additional frames where the video is "out of sync" (for lack of a better phrase). I have verified that these frames are not on the original VHS tape. I have cleaned the heads on the VCR. I have defragmented my hard drive. I have use two different hard drives. I have seen the same artifact when the VCR was paused, and even with the tape not moving there were several of these "out of sync" frames.

 

I have isolated examples of this effect, but I don't know how to attach them to this posting. It is asking me for an URL to insert. They are just .jpg files that I extracted from the video clips. Please ask me questions so that I can help you to understand what the images are doing.

 

I'm sure that there must be a name for this event, but I'm ignorant of it.

 

Can anyone tell me why this is happening and what I can do about it? It happens so frequently sometimes that it is really annoying and totally ruining my movies.

 

Nadine H

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In case it's this simple, S-video doesn't carry audio, so you do need to have audio connections in place as well as the s-video cable.

 

Yes, ty, I figured this one out when I actually took the time to read the instruction manual for the camera. Boy, I sure feel stupid.

 

Thank you for your polite reply, I'm not sure I deserved it.

 

Nadine.

 

What type of digital camcorder is it? If it uses the miniDV tapes, you should be using a firewire cable to capture the video.

Yes, It is Mini DV digital camcorder, but the firewire connection with my computer is not working. Windows returns an error that says the "USB" hardware is unknown. The camcorder manufacturer tells me that there is no driver needed. So I don't know what to do about this one.

 

In the meantime, the camcorder has decided not to playback the tapes, so it has gone to the camcorder hospital.

 

Can you tell me how to make the firewire connection work?

 

TIA,

 

Nadine

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Yes, It is Mini DV digital camcorder, but the firewire connection with my computer is not working. Windows returns an error that says the "USB" hardware is unknown. The camcorder manufacturer tells me that there is no driver needed. So I don't know what to do about this one.
Sounds like you have the camcorder connected vis USB - not firewire. Most camcorders do NOT come with a firewire cable. You need to purchase one. Compare your camcorder to the image and your cable.

 

If you have a laptop, there is also a 4 pin to 4 pin (small on each end) firewire cable.

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Yes, ty, I figured this one out when I actually took the time to read the instruction manual for the camera. Boy, I sure feel stupid.

 

Thank you for your polite reply, I'm not sure I deserved it.

 

Nadine.

 

 

Yes, It is Mini DV digital camcorder, but the firewire connection with my computer is not working. Windows returns an error that says the "USB" hardware is unknown. The camcorder manufacturer tells me that there is no driver needed. So I don't know what to do about this one.

 

In the meantime, the camcorder has decided not to playback the tapes, so it has gone to the camcorder hospital.

 

Can you tell me how to make the firewire connection work?

 

TIA,

 

Nadine

 

You didn't happen to try to put a firewire cable in a USB port, did you? If you were actually able to do it, you could possible have damaged your video camera. I read of one such incident, a long time ago. I don't see how it is possible, but who knows, it may be.

 

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Not unusual at all, it all started the day after the first video capture program went on sale, about 1985… :lol:

 

List what A/D Capture device you are using and your PC specs – CPU speed & HD free space. We can advise some tricks based on that info.

 

I appreciate your help.

 

My capture device is from Honestech: VIDBOX NW3. It uses the USB connection.

 

Computer is: 2.83 GHz Intel Dual Core Quad, 8Gb ram, two hard drives (243 Gb free and 617 Gb free), WIN XP 64-bit, GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512 Mb.

 

Is that all the info you need?

 

Nadine H

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Sounds like you have the camcorder connected vis USB - not firewire. Most camcorders do NOT come with a firewire cable. You need to purchase one. Compare your camcorder to the image and your cable.

 

If you have a laptop, there is also a 4 pin to 4 pin (small on each end) firewire cable.

 

It is a desktop and I do have the 4-pin cable. It has the same connector on both ends and looks like the cable on the left of your image. The connector on the back of the computer is an add-on card that came with the motherboard. It has two connections, one is USB, the other the 4-pin firewire. If I remember correctly, the add-on card is then plugged into the motherboard. I will check to see if I connected it properly.

 

Please tell me how you managed to add the images to your posting.

 

Nadine H

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Had a little trouble finding the Capture product… (http://www.honestech.com/main/default.asp)

 

I suspect you are going to have to capture using their included software. You want to try some short test captures using the best quality and an AVI file creation. (I assume it does that)

 

Then bring that file into VW and delete a piece or 2 and save the VW Project.

 

Open MyDVD and add the VW Project and burn to an RW disc.

 

See what happens???

 

Some general tips – defrag your HD and make sure you have plenty of room on it.

 

Run nothing else and do nothing with the computer during capture and burn.

 

Your PC specs look good so that should not be the problem.

 

I combined these 2 threads, the information just provided answers most of the questions from the other thread...

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Looks like that product does not have its own power supply. Typically the front USB ports on computers may not have enough power to run that device. Plug it into one of the USB ports on the back of your computer. Do not use a USB hub.

 

You are correct. It does not have its own power supple. Could I be adding to the problem by using a USB extension cable?

 

Nadine H

 

Had a little trouble finding the Capture product… (http://www.honestech.com/main/default.asp)

 

I suspect you are going to have to capture using their included software. You want to try some short test captures using the best quality and an AVI file creation. (I assume it does that)

 

Then bring that file into VW and delete a piece or 2 and save the VW Project.

 

Open MyDVD and add the VW Project and burn to an RW disc.

 

See what happens???

 

Some general tips – defrag your HD and make sure you have plenty of room on it.

 

Run nothing else and do nothing with the computer during capture and burn.

 

Your PC specs look good so that should not be the problem.

 

 

It is better to capture as AVI than MPG?

 

Nadine H

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Yes, USB extension cables can cause a problem. We've seen it with the Roxio usb device. Also don't use a HUB unless it has power.

 

Have you done everything to troubleshoot the Firewire issue? You would get much better quality using firewire directly from the camcorder. I would have purchased a new firewire card before using analog capture.

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Yes, USB extension cables can cause a problem. We've seen it with the Roxio usb device. Also don't use a HUB unless it has power.

 

Have you done everything to troubleshoot the Firewire issue? You would get much better quality using firewire directly from the camcorder. I would have purchased a new firewire card before using analog capture.

 

I would like to use the firewire for the digital video, but currently the camcorder is at the camcorder hospital to find out why it will no longer play back what is recorded on the tape.

 

All the rest of what I am working on is analog and the firewire will not help me there.

 

I need to double check that I have wired the firewire card correctly to the motherboard. But that means I have to crack the case open and I keep putting it off.

 

I suppose I should go ahead and take care of it before the camcorder comes home to recuperate. But I have no way of trying it out until it does come home, so no hurry for now.

 

I have been successful at using the software that came with the capture device to get a clean download of the videos without all the jitters and stutters.

 

Thanx to those that have been responding. This forum has been very helpful, I'm learning a lot.

 

Nadine H

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I need to double check that I have wired the firewire card correctly to the motherboard. But that means I have to crack the case open and I keep putting it off.

 

Nadine H

You don't have to open anything to check your card install.

 

Win-Pause keys – Hardware tab – Device Manager

 

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Is it there?

 

No Errors listed?

 

In another post you asked about AVI vs mpeg for capture.

 

Depends on the PC… AVI is "better" in that it isn't compressed and places the least burden on the PC. – downside – huge files 13GB for 1 hour.

 

Mpeg2 is a much smaller file, 4.5GB per hour but taxes the CPU to receive, compress, and store each relentless frame during capture as well as editing.

 

Try it both ways and see what works for you and your PC.

 

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You don't have to open anything to check your card install.

 

Win-Pause keys – Hardware tab – Device Manager

 

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Is it there?

 

No Errors listed?

 

In another post you asked about AVI vs mpeg for capture.

 

Depends on the PC… AVI is "better" in that it isn't compressed and places the least burden on the PC. – downside – huge files 13GB for 1 hour.

 

Mpeg2 is a much smaller file, 4.5GB per hour but taxes the CPU to receive, compress, and store each relentless frame during capture as well as editing.

 

Try it both ways and see what works for you and your PC.

 

 

 

Yes, the IEEE 1394 is there with no errors. So why am I having an issue with it? hmmmmm.

 

The camcorder is back from the camcorder hospital. Fortuantely all it needed was a good cleaning. It hadn't been used in about 8 years, so not too surprising.

 

I did the trial and error thing. I didn't like AVI at all. The clips came out (for a better word) pixelated. Not nice to look at at all. So with the Hoestech software, I'm pulling in the clips in MPEG-2. It is slower than Roxio, but the image quality is much better. I still ocassionally get a frame or two that is messed up, but nor nearly so offensive as before. Tolerable. It is giving me substantial practice for patience.

 

I think I'm beginning to get the hang of this stuff. Couldn't have done it without the help of the forum. And you, specifially, John.

 

Thanx,

 

Nadine H

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Yes, the IEEE 1394 is there with no errors. So why am I having an issue with it? hmmmmm.

 

I did the trial and error thing. I didn't like AVI at all. The clips came out (for a better word) pixelated.

What kind of issue are you having with the Firewire? Have you connected the camcorder to it since you got the camcorder back? When you connect the camcorder via firewire and turn the camcorder to VCR/Playback mode, does Windows recognize the camcoder? You should hear a sound from Windows and the camcorder should show up in Device Manager like the Firewire card under 'Imaging Devices'. If Windows recognizes the camcorder, then Media Import should be abe to capture from it. Edited by ggrussell
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