Roy Jordan Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 while trying to burn my pics of Africa I have been getting blackouts of the pics but not the sound. Actually more interested in the pics- This has never happened before--made 5 dvd's of trips with no problem--but this time we can not get the dvd together. I am looking for help and need it to be very simple since I am not the best on the computer. Any help GREATLY appreciated--karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 while trying to burn my pics of Africa I have been getting blackouts of the pics but not the sound. Actually more interested in the pics- This has never happened before--made 5 dvd's of trips with no problem--but this time we can not get the dvd together. I am looking for help and need it to be very simple since I am not the best on the computer. Any help GREATLY appreciated--karen Roy, read up on making an ISO file from that project using MyDVD. Watch the ISO file with VLC (free download). to see if the images are still blacked out. If not copy the ISO file to a blank disc using Creator Classic or Video Copy and Convert. There is a lot of speculation on why the ISO file works better than direct burn but it MAY have to do with encoding and burning at the same time. If the images are still balcked out, delete the ones that are blacked out and add them again. Double clcik on the image and then do a slight tweek like adding a 1 pixel blur (don't worry, you wont see it). Try making that SIO file again. Let us know how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Jordan Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Roy, read up on making an ISO file from that project using MyDVD. Watch the ISO file with VLC (free download). to see if the images are still blacked out. If not copy the ISO file to a blank disc using Creator Classic or Video Copy and Convert. There is a lot of speculation on why the ISO file works better than direct burn but it MAY have to do with encoding and burning at the same time. If the images are still balcked out, delete the ones that are blacked out and add them again. Double clcik on the image and then do a slight tweek like adding a 1 pixel blur (don't worry, you wont see it). Try making that SIO file again. Let us know how it works out. Thanks - I had read up on burning iso and had already tried it before the first post. I still get blacked out photos when encoding into the iso file. Too many photos which black out to delete and add them in again. I tried updating video drivers, direct x w/o help. Did burn to iso using software instead of hardware. Uninstalled roxio 10 and then updated xp to sp3 w/ ie7. installed roxio 2009 but installation failed. Uninstalled 2009. followed instructions for clean install. deleted instructed roxio files from hard drive and registry entries. Reinstalled 2009. It still failed to load. Then tried installing 2009 sp from roxio website and 2009 loaded. loaded 10 saved project and tried to burn. Same blackouts in 2009 as in 10 burning to iso. Guess may have to start project over to see if that will help. Is there some sort of jpg file size limitation when importing into a project? Some of these files are photos that have been corrected in photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dave Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I found with EMC 9, jpgs over 13 mb each would cause a problem. Actually, I had first tried 25 mb jpgs and thats when I first ran into the problem or perhaps a similar problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I found with EMC 9, jpgs over 13 mb each would cause a problem. Actually, I had first tried 25 mb jpgs and thats when I first ran into the problem or perhaps a similar problem. I remember when someone raised that question and it is bunk! I made a bunch at 50Mb and everyone came in and worked… They are converted to 720 X 480 on loading so file size is meaningless. But PhotoShop is proprietary and doesn't always play well with others. I would take a few of the black ones and load them into Roxio's PhotoSuite and then do a Save As. After that, I would use these to replace the ones in the project that are black. Obviously just do a few for a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dave Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Jim, I suspect my problem with large jpegs in the past had to do with an inferior onboard video processor since I don't have that situation occurring today. I have the same OS and the same EMC 9. The only change is a much faster PC and superior video processing. I did the test back then and 13 mb and less would work. Also, I was using XDDM video drivers with the internal video processor. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Jordan Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I started getting some out of memory messages - so I started looking at the windows paging file and decided to increase the paging file size to see if that would help. Also tried reducing some of the image sizes to keep the size around 5-6 megs. Looks like I can get a burn that way but what a pain. I tried resetting windows to let it set the paging file again but got the same dropouts of pictures showing that the problem is memory handling issues between roxio and windows xp pro. Strange, I haven't had these issues before but this is really annoying. I have 2 gb of memory in this machine and core 2 chip running at 2.66gz. This program should be able to handle this without problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dave Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Roy, I guess you have found a "work around" to the issue. Good luck! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Why won't you try what I suggested – converting them to png or reprocessing them through PhotoSuite. You are wasting your time grasping at size and page files. It isn't a factor, look at mine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Why won't you try what I suggested – converting them to png or reprocessing them through PhotoSuite. You are wasting your time grasping at size and page files. It isn't a factor, look at mine: I agree that looking at those things is a waste of time. I do ALL my photo editing in Photoshop and save at max quality. When you edit and go to save your files, what format are you saving. All jpg files are not the same. Save as jpg baseline standard. Don't save as optimized or progressive or as jpg2000. I don't see any difficulties with large files. Are you adding and deleting and then adding etc. a lot of images? If so, after you have done this a time or two, go to the top menu and select tools, then options. Tick the clear proxy files button. Try again. The proxy files pre-stage the images so the program opens quicker but if they get large, they can cause a problem or forget that you've changed the images in the production. Also try making a short slide show and ISO with only those images that are giving you the problem. If the ISO doesn't play right, we can trouble shoot from the image standpoint; if it plays correctly, then we can look at it from the slide show standpoint. Just to double check, you are using Video Wave for your production, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Jordan Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 task manager verifies that videowave11 is the program creating the files. i am trying the suggestion about getting rid of the proxy file. I do note that videowave is using much less memory after doing so. Let's see if that help. Also I did not ignore the import into photosuite suggestion. I had tried importing into photosuite, but was getting the out of memory messages there too. So I started looking at other solutions. I will post again after trying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 task manager verifies that videowave11 is the program creating the files. i am trying the suggestion about getting rid of the proxy file. I do note that videowave is using much less memory after doing so. Let's see if that help. Also I did not ignore the import into photosuite suggestion. I had tried importing into photosuite, but was getting the out of memory messages there too. So I started looking at other solutions. I will post again after trying this. Programs have names and Windows doesn't hide them. They are in the title bar of the parent window: Thanks for the updated info – keep us informed how you are making out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Jordan Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I am running on an Intel E6750 w 2 GB ram. I have also tried closing down other programs that usually load on startup to make sure there is plenty of RAM to work with while doing the encoding. I have an EVGA GeForce 8600GT videocard with the latest NVidia drivers 181.22 following the suggestion on Roxio's website. I just tried recreating a slideshow with the same photos imported into another project. It is worse than the one before with dropout photos every 3 or 4 photos. I have used the software rendering and tried varying other settings to see what happens. I will try copying photos into new folders and importing into roxio photo program and resaving them to test the other suggestion. I don't see how photoshop would be the problem since I have been color correcting in photoshop for years, saving the changes as a jpg and using with earlier versions. However, could the image size of the photo have anything to do with problems. I do recall that someone sent me a jpg with a very small image size which imported into MyDVD as a photo that did not expand to fit the screen. I changed the size in Photoshop to a larger photo size and solved the problem. I have also been setting for widescreen v standard video display. I am trying a test using standard 4:3 video output to see if it makes a difference. I doubt that it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Size doesn't matter but format might… Try what I suggested, load in PhotoSuite and Save As. Also you could try a Batch change from PhotoShop from jpg to png as another test??? I understand not leaving a program you like but this problem is not limited to PhotoShop. I think it started in V9 but is so intermittent no one knows that fixes it! Please keep us informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dave Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Were the 5 previous DVDs you made with the same software, same OS, same PC and using the same media? Have you tried installing sp3 for Creator 2009? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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while trying to burn my pics of Africa I have been getting blackouts of the pics but not the sound. Actually more interested in the pics-
This has never happened before--made 5 dvd's of trips with no problem--but this time we can not get the dvd together.
I am looking for help and need it to be very simple since I am not the best on the computer. Any help GREATLY appreciated--karen
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