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New to Toast 10, with HD/BD plug in. I use iMovie 09.

I capture from my Canon HV20, high def camcorder.

Goal is to get HD onto a DVD..

 

The recommendation in the Toast-10 user manual was to:

 

To add an iMovie '08 project, first save your project in iMovie. Next,

select Share > Media Browser and ensure that the Large size is selected.

After clicking Publish, your project will be available under Movies in

the Media Browser.

 

So with this I get the following settings on the exported movie:

 

H.264/AVC, 960 x 540, 29.97fps

Audio: MPEG-4 Audio, Stereo 44100 Hz

 

 

In Toast, I chose Blu-ray Video, Chose DVD media. (by the way I'm using DVD+R as that is all I have right now)

Burned it.

 

The DVD plays on my PS-3 Blu-ray fine. Looks great! Hands down way better than iDVD could ever do...

(should of got Toast a while ago)

 

but... How do I get true High Def? (1080) What Settings should I export it from iMovie ?

 

Much appreciated !

soleview1

 

 

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Were you able to figure this out? I am looking for the answer myself.

 

New to Toast 10, with HD/BD plug in. I use iMovie 09.

I capture from my Canon HV20, high def camcorder.

Goal is to get HD onto a DVD..

 

The recommendation in the Toast-10 user manual was to:

 

To add an iMovie '08 project, first save your project in iMovie. Next,

select Share > Media Browser and ensure that the Large size is selected.

After clicking Publish, your project will be available under Movies in

the Media Browser.

 

So with this I get the following settings on the exported movie:

 

H.264/AVC, 960 x 540, 29.97fps

Audio: MPEG-4 Audio, Stereo 44100 Hz

 

 

In Toast, I chose Blu-ray Video, Chose DVD media. (by the way I'm using DVD+R as that is all I have right now)

Burned it.

 

The DVD plays on my PS-3 Blu-ray fine. Looks great! Hands down way better than iDVD could ever do...

(should of got Toast a while ago)

 

but... How do I get true High Def? (1080) What Settings should I export it from iMovie ?

 

Much appreciated !

soleview1

 

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I figured someone else with experience would answer this. The secret is to Share the movie in a higher-resolution format than the one you selected. I don't use iMovie so I don't know which one to suggest. The one you chose is the maximum for AppleTV.

 

You might check the iMovie forum at discussions.apple.com rather than wait for an expert reply here.

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I have been trying for days to get some questions answered on apple forums about imovie and avchd and have had little to no success.

Try this: In iMovie choose Share and choose Export Using Quicktime. In the window that appears choose Movie to MPEG 4 as the Export format. Click Options. In the window that appears choose the Image size that's the same as your source video (i.e. 1920x1080HD). Click Okay. Click Save. Your movie will be exported at 1920x1080.

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ComPH, can you tell me your workflow using imovie or fce and are you starting with avchd?

 

After you get the full resolution file on your drive, you can check that the resolution is correct by checking the file properties in the directory. In Toast I then recommend the setting described in: "http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=40330". I made many, many BluRay and HD-DVD discs on blank DVD's and DL-DVD's using both Toast 9 and Toast 10, playing either on Toshiba HD DVD players or on PlayStation 3 successfully. The only problem Toast has is with exporting chapter markers.

 

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After you get the full resolution file on your drive, you can check that the resolution is correct by checking the file properties in the directory. In Toast I then recommend the setting described in: "http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=40330". I made many, many BluRay and HD-DVD discs on blank DVD's and DL-DVD's using both Toast 9 and Toast 10, playing either on Toshiba HD DVD players or on PlayStation 3 successfully. The only problem Toast has is with exporting chapter markers.

 

I think there are two places where this could go wrong:

 

1) When you import are you importing at full resolution? iMovie encourages you to downscale HD material to 960x540, but you want to keep full resolution.

 

2) The other place, as was mentioned above, is to export using QuickTime into a file that is 1920x1080 using Apple Intermediate Codec for Video and Linear PCM (Uncompressed) Audio.

 

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ComPH, how is the quality of the dvd compared to the original footage. Can you see any degradation and if so, can you estimate the %?

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I followed your suggestions below, but when I try to play the disc in my LG blu ray player I get a disc error message. I did update the firmware. Any suggestons?

 

I'll attempt to describe the workflow. I hope I can be clear enough.

 

First the Camcorder. I will describe 1920x1080i60 flow, so make sure that that is how the footage was recorded. it would be different for HDV, and even more complicated if the footage were mixed. The FCE will not even allow the ingestion of mixed footage, there is a description of that somewhere on Apple's support site. Other formats, such as HDV or AVC/H.264 can be imported, but the the process is more complex and lengthy, rendering would take place, because the FCE only works with "I" frames, that fully describe each pixel within the given frame, not just as reference to other frames. That is also the reason why the files become so huge in FCE, they are much less compressed. DV, which is much less compressed, contains, I frames only. HDV uses MPEG-2, basically the same compression standard as is being used in HDTV, except it is 1440x1080, so there is some compression, achieved by the additional anamorphic compression in horizontal direction (the pixels are not square), AVCHD can actually be either 1920x1080, or 1440x1080. AVCHD is a form of MPEG-4, which at the cost of 3x the processing power buys 2x reduction of the stream bandwidth (and of storage space) in comparison to MPEG-2. Of course if you then compare it to playing SD DVD, there is about 6x more pixels in 1920x1080, in combination with 3x more processing of the MPEG-4, the PC that can display SD stream of DVD may choke playing back AVCHD, if it doesn't have the needed 18x of CPU horsepower. It also explains why so many PCs struggle with AVCHD, that can play back HDV, because roughly 6x the CPU is required. Many have seen the stuttering, macro-blocking, and other artifacts of PCs struggling to keep up with AVCHD streams, while these can handle HDV streams just fine. That is also the reason why FCE converts the AVCHD into AIC, which uses lot more disc space and needs lot less CPU power, and is lot faster during the back and forth searches required by non-linear editing.

 

FCE - use FCE HD 4.0 or 4.01. After starting the FCE, I set up the scratch discs first, via FCE>System Setting>Set Scratch Discs>{make a folder here, use 4 times (or more)}.

I then set the FCE>Easy Setup> AVCHD - Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i60

Plug in the camcorder via USB port and make sure that it is connected to the iMAC (I need to actually activate the connection on the viewer screen of my Sony, my son doesn't need to do anything on his Samsung, so this varies, depending on the camcorder). I can also use a backup DVD, I made from the camcorder footage. After I insert the DVD, it behaves just like a camcorder both in FCE or iMovie.

Next is File>Log and Transfer----Log and Transfer window opens.

There is a setting preference you may want to check (little gear wheel icon with a triangle), Click>Preferences>Source> "AVCHD Plugin" > Translates to "Apple Intermediate Codec" and "AC-3" Audio > Translates to "Plain Stereo". Note: I can actually use "Matrix Stereo" but some people have problem with that, so "Plain Stereo" is the safer setting.

Select the clips you'd like to ingest, and click "Add Selection to Queue". That commands the S/W to "ingest" the AVCHD clips, converts them into AIC/plain stereo, so that FCE can use it.

Next edit the footage, creating a sequence (you can create more sequences, but the export is done one by one).

There are two ways to get the completed sequence out of FCE. First, the preferred, simpler and faster method is using: File>Export>QuickTime Movie...>SAVE. Select where you want to store the output. I usually

make an "Output" folder, within the Project folder set up within the scratch discs, so that I can find or delete things easily.

The second method is used if you have mixed footage, or some other complications. If you are just starting, don't use it until you get more comfortable with the whole process.

Here it goes: File> Export Using QuickTime Conversion...> Options> QuickTime Movie; Settings>Compression: H.264, Quality slider to: BEST; Multi pass; Size > 1920x1080 HD; Filter > {Whatever you like}; Uncheck "Prepare for Internet Streaming"> OK> SAVE (into "Output" folder described above}. This method can be also used to prepare outputs for other devices, resolutions, etc. other than the original 1920x1080i60. This method is required if you use iMovie.

 

iMovie - same requirement for the camcorder setting requirement, as for the FCE above.

Start iMovie (8 or 9) > Plug in camcorder or insert backup DVD.

Normally the camcorder (when it is properly connected as described for FCE) or the backup DVD, is automatically detected, new window pops-up showing thumbnails of the individual clips. Either automatically import all, or select "manual", check-off the clips you'd like to import and then >"Import Checked". Window pops-up "Create an Event", then under Input Video as: > Check 1920x1080 (DO NOT use 960x540 option). Follow with >Import >DONE.

Next edit your project. When done, from drop down menu: Share>Export Using Quicktime > Save as (save the file into specific folder you create, as described above in the FCE section or as you wish).

Next > Export:> Movie to QuickTime Movie> Options> new window pops-up> Settings, Filter and the rest same as for FCE under "File Export Using QuickTime Conversion" (described above) > OK > SAVE. This will be followed by lengthy "Exporting Project" process.

 

After the files get exported, under either FCE or iMovie, using either method, find the *.mov file in the "Output" folder, click it, and it should, among others, show "Dimension 1920x1080". That tells you that all is ready for the Toasting process.

 

In Toast, make sure that you have a version or plugin supporting "Blu-ray video". On the drop down menu, under Toast >Preferences, make sure you check off the Show Blu-ray video projects, and other options you like, e.g. NTSC under Audio & Video, etc.

In the main window, select the movie icon.

Under Video on the left, highlight Blu-ray Video.

Under Options, select desired menu option. I generally uncheck "auto-play disc on insert" and "Play all items continuously". Note: the "Play all items continuously" can be used if you use multiple files for chapters, because the chapters are not handled properly in Toast, but if you do, the last chapter will keep on looping on the PS-3.

Continuing under "Options", click "Custom" Encoding > More > Disc Name; Menu Title: Encoding > Video Format: MPEG-4 AVC, Average Bit Rate: slider to 15.0 Mbps, Maximum Bit Rate: to 20.0 Mbps, Motion Estimation: to Best, Check off Half - PEL, Reencoding: Automatic, Field Dominance: Automatic, Aspect Ratio: 16:9, Audio Format: Dolby Digital, Data Rate: Automatic, uncheck: Dynamic Range Compression > OK.

Drag the *.mov files generated by the FCE or iMovie into the main window, (it asks for it).

Set up the media on the bottom to DVD or DVD DL (depending on the actual physical blank media you'll be using).

Press the big red bottom right button. Window will pop-up > Press "Record" > insert disc when prompted. This will take LONG time. Done.

 

I hope this is written clearly enough. It is very long process.

 

Best of luck...

 

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I think there are two places where this could go wrong:

 

1) When you import are you importing at full resolution? iMovie encourages you to downscale HD material to 960x540, but you want to keep full resolution.

 

2) The other place, as was mentioned above, is to export using QuickTime into a file that is 1920x1080 using Apple Intermediate Codec for Video and Linear PCM (Uncompressed) Audio.

 

 

I have tried several output resolutions and codecs that I send to Toast 10 from I movie, i.e. MPEG-4. Apple Intermediate, etc, all at 1920 resolution. Toast will burn the blu ray onto dvd, but when I play it, the video has lines on it during any motion that took place. Any suggestions?

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New to Toast 10, with HD/BD plug in. I use iMovie 09.

I capture from my Canon HV20, high def camcorder.

Goal is to get HD onto a DVD..

 

The recommendation in the Toast-10 user manual was to:

 

To add an iMovie '08 project, first save your project in iMovie. Next,

select Share > Media Browser and ensure that the Large size is selected.

After clicking Publish, your project will be available under Movies in

the Media Browser.

 

So with this I get the following settings on the exported movie:

 

H.264/AVC, 960 x 540, 29.97fps

Audio: MPEG-4 Audio, Stereo 44100 Hz

 

 

In Toast, I chose Blu-ray Video, Chose DVD media. (by the way I'm using DVD+R as that is all I have right now)

Burned it.

 

The DVD plays on my PS-3 Blu-ray fine. Looks great! Hands down way better than iDVD could ever do...

(should of got Toast a while ago)

 

but... How do I get true High Def? (1080) What Settings should I export it from iMovie ?

 

Much appreciated !

soleview1

 

In iMovie I use the Export with Quicktime. This menu has a sub-menu where you can specify the picture resolution. You can create a 1920 x 1080 file with the extension .mov. I then use Toast to burn as Blu-Ray. The quality on the TV is good. I am still having problems to get the Menus to work. Does this help?

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