Is Creator 2009 smarter than EMC 10 about DVD sizing

[firewraith]

Been working on a project using MyDVD in Roxio 10. When you select the DVD 4.7GB option, it gladly creates a 4.7GB disk image. Try and burn it to a single layer DVD and you're just as gladly informed that the image won't fit (even though MyDVD doesn't give any indication that there is a size problem before hand). Come to find out that DVD drive and media makers count the numbers differently, a DVD Disk labeled at 4.7GB, will only hold about 4.39GBs. Computers use base 2 rather than the DVD folks who use base 10, IE:

In computer terms: 1GB = 1 gigabyte = 1,073,741,824 bytes

In DVD terms: 1GB = 1 gigabyte = 1,000,000,000 bytes

 

So in a very long winded question, when you tell Creator 2009 to create a 4.7GB DVD, is it (now) smart enough to know that the actual physical image size can only be about 4.39GBs?

[Jim_Hardin]

You tell MyDVD what size your disc is and what Quality you want your output to be.

 

Then watch the bar at the bottom – Red means it don’t fit!

 

It will also show you how much it is over.

 

This has been in every single version of Builder (EMC 6 & 7) as well as MyDVD EMC 8, 9, 10 and 2009.

 

But DVD Movies are not just DVD Data discs with files on them… They are based on Time at Encoding Rate to yield Size + other formating to meet international standards.

 

If you want to discuss this farther we can move this to EMC 10 General???

 

V6 Builder:

 

MyDVD – Creator 2009:

[grandpabruce]

Been working on a project using MyDVD in Roxio 10. When you select the DVD 4.7GB option, it gladly creates a 4.7GB disk image. Try and burn it to a single layer DVD and you're just as gladly informed that the image won't fit (even though MyDVD doesn't give any indication that there is a size problem before hand). Come to find out that DVD drive and media makers count the numbers differently, a DVD Disk labeled at 4.7GB, will only hold about 4.39GBs. Computers use base 2 rather than the DVD folks who use base 10, IE:

In computer terms: 1GB = 1 gigabyte = 1,073,741,824 bytes

In DVD terms: 1GB = 1 gigabyte = 1,000,000,000 bytes

 

So in a very long winded question, when you tell Creator 2009 to create a 4.7GB DVD, is it (now) smart enough to know that the actual physical image size can only be about 4.39GBs?

 

The solution is simple. Set your burn quality, at the bottom right of the MyDVD screen, to High Quality (HQ). Fit to Disc is the default, and it makes a lousy looking end result.

 

Next, you click on Burn, uncheck the Burn to DVD option, and click on the Folder Set option.

 

Give your project a name, and location to save it, then click Burn. Once the file is done encoding, save your project, close MyDVD, open Video Copy and Convert, click on the DVD Video Copy tab, click on the down arrow, on the drop down box, below Source, and click on Browse For Disc Image......... Browse to the Folder Set that you just made, click on the Video_TS folder, and burn your production.

 

BTW, you will have a lot more editing power, if you build your production in VideoWave (Edit Video-Advanced), then author and burn that VideoWave file, in MyDVD.

 

These same suggestions apply to your EMC 10, only EMC 10 has the actual program names, VideoWave and MyDVD, not some obscure names like Creator 2009 has.

[firewraith]

You tell MyDVD what size your disc is and what Quality you want your output to be.

 

Then watch the bar at the bottom – Red means it don’t fit!

 

It will also show you how much it is over.

 

This has been in every single version of Builder (EMC 6 & 7) as well as MyDVD EMC 8, 9, 10 and 2009.

 

But DVD Movies are not just DVD Data discs with files on them… They are based on Time at Encoding Rate to yield Size + other formating to meet international standards.

 

If you want to discuss this farther we can move this to EMC 10 General???

 

V6 Builder:

 

MyDVD – Creator 2009:

 

 

Jim,

 

Thanks for your reply! I guess where my confusion results is that I've tried selecting the disk size as DVD 4.7GB, the status bar shows me Used: 4648.4 MB Free: 51.6 MB and my quality is set to Fit To Disk. The bar itself is not red. I guess I was under the mistaken idea that with these settings MyDVD would adjust the data rates to be able to fit onto the physical 4.39 disk size. I was just curious if this was handled differently in Creator 2009. If this is not the correct forum for this question, please don't hesitate to move it to the correct one.

 

Mike

[grandpabruce]

Jim,

 

Thanks for your reply! I guess where my confusion results is that I've tried selecting the disk size as DVD 4.7GB, the status bar shows me Used: 4648.4 MB Free: 51.6 MB and my quality is set to Fit To Disk. The bar itself is not red. I guess I was under the mistaken idea that with these settings MyDVD would adjust the data rates to be able to fit onto the physical 4.39 disk size. I was just curious if this was handled differently in Creator 2009. If this is not the correct forum for this question, please don't hesitate to move it to the correct one.

 

Mike

 

Mike, read my post. Even if you get Fit to Disc to work, you won't like the resultant video. I listed the steps to make things work for you.

 

Oh, to answer your question, Creator 2009 handles things the same as EMC 10, and it is doubtful that that will change in the next version. One can only hope, but you might want to wait until the next version comes out, before upgrading.

 

[Jim_Hardin]

grandpabruce nailed it in that other post!

 

Fit to Disc sounds good but it makes coarse jumps to get there. Whereas VCC seems to make just enough change to get it done!

 

Setting the disc size still won’t make any difference! There are other variables in there you are not seeing. There are Lead-In and Lead-Outs that have to be processed and menus, chapters background audio all compete with disc space and are variables. Unless the whole thing is rendered each and every time you make a change, it can only make a good guess.