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"Detect Scenes" doesn't detect any scenes in Videowave


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I have a file containing an hour-long video file which I'd like to divide into separate scenes within Videowave. When I try to use the automatic scene detection in Videowave no scenes are detected no matter what level I set the sensitivity to (even though there are numerous obvious changes of scene in the video). If I press the "add-scene" button at any point in the video then a new scene appears in on the right hand side of the scene detection window as expected, it's just the auto-detect function that isn't working.

 

Any ideas what I (or the software!) might be doing wrong?

 

 

I just tried the same thing on a shorter video file and it works fine. Looks like Videowave may have a problem with the size of the file on my original hour-long video (it is 12Gb!).

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I have no idea if the problem is with the file length (although I doubt it). I never use the auto scene detection - it makes too many scenes and often in the wrong places or it doesn't make enough. Afterwards you have to look at each scne to see what in it, etc I find it much better to set the scenes manually at the places I decide.

 

Exactly what do you want to do with the scenes afterward? How do you want to use them in Videowave?

 

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

I have a pile of DV, Hi8 and VHS-C tapes that I've recorded over 20 years and I'm planning to transfer them onto my PC so that I can (a) preserve the video before the tapes degrade too badly and (B) make some video compilations such as "All Fred's birthdays". Given the sheer volume of material I thought auto scene detection would provide a quick and easy (if not 100% accurate) way of letting me see what's on each tape after I've loaded it onto the PC in its entirety. I used Steve's very useful video guide to make sure I was using the software correctly and the fact that auto-detect works on my smaller file shows that I'm pressing all the right buttons. If there's another way of loading and cataloguing my tapes without using auto-detect then I'd be glad to use it.

 

I completely understand your point about using manual scene detection but given the volume of video I want to load onto my PC I'm just looking for any way I can find to make the job as easy as possible (and in addition to that I'm still curious to understand why my small video file will auto-detect but my large one won't)

 

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I just used auto-detect last night in Videowave using a DV AVI file that is 55 minutes long. And on another two DV AVI files that is a little over 1/2 hour each. Auto-detect worked fine. :)

 

 

Mmm. I wonder why it's not working for me then.

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I assume you captured that avi file from you camcorder. Try with a short 15 minute capture and see if scene detection works then.

 

It was captured from my camcorder but on a different PC and using an old version of Creator/Videowave. I then copied the file across to my laptop PC, on which I have Creator 2009 installed, and tried to perform scene detection. It was when that failed that I started this thread.

 

Interestingly, I just captured a full 1 hour DV (from a different tape) onto my laptop from my camcorder using Creator 2009 and it correctly detected scenes as it captured the video. This at least means that I have the option of recapturing the original tape onto my laptop and getting the scenes detected as they're captured (even if it doesn't solve the mystery of why Creator 2009 fails to detect scenes in the original AVI file).

 

I'll be trying to load a Hi8 tape tomorrow (via a video capture device) so it'll be interesting to see if Creator detects the scenes on that automatically on capture or whether that functionality only works on DV captures. If it all works OK then I'll be all set for a marathon DV/Hi8/VHS-C video capture session and I can just forget about the fact that Creator couldn't detect scenes from the original AVI file.

 

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It was captured from my camcorder but on a different PC and using an old version of Creator/Videowave. I then copied the file across to my laptop PC, on which I have Creator 2009 installed, and tried to perform scene detection. It was when that failed that I started this thread.

 

Interestingly, I just captured a full 1 hour DV (from a different tape) onto my laptop from my camcorder using Creator 2009 and it correctly detected scenes as it captured the video. This at least means that I have the option of recapturing the original tape onto my laptop and getting the scenes detected as they're captured (even if it doesn't solve the mystery of why Creator 2009 fails to detect scenes in the original AVI file).

 

I'll be trying to load a Hi8 tape tomorrow (via a video capture device) so it'll be interesting to see if Creator detects the scenes on that automatically on capture or whether that functionality only works on DV captures. If it all works OK then I'll be all set for a marathon DV/Hi8/VHS-C video capture session and I can just forget about the fact that Creator couldn't detect scenes from the original AVI file.

 

I would say there is something wrong with the file and not with Creator 2009 :rolleyes:

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I have a file containing an hour-long video file which I'd like to divide into separate scenes within Videowave. When I try to use the automatic scene detection in Videowave no scenes are detected no matter what level I set the sensitivity to (even though there are numerous obvious changes of scene in the video). If I press the "add-scene" button at any point in the video then a new scene appears in on the right hand side of the scene detection window as expected, it's just the auto-detect function that isn't working.

 

Any ideas what I (or the software!) might be doing wrong?

 

 

I just tried the same thing on a shorter video file and it works fine. Looks like Videowave may have a problem with the size of the file on my original hour-long video (it is 12Gb!).

 

I have no idea if the problem is with the file length (although I doubt it). I never use the auto scene detection - it makes too many scenes and often in the wrong places or it doesn't make enough. Afterwards you have to look at each scne to see what in it, etc I find it much better to set the scenes manually at the places I decide.

 

Exactly what do you want to do with the scenes afterward? How do you want to use them in Videowave?

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