Project size is too big! error

[daniel942]

Does anyone have a solution for the "Project size is too big!" error in Roxio DVDit 6.4?

 

I can burn a 20gb blu-ray with single or dual layer... If I import that same file twice or use a 30gb file, an error pops-up "Project size is too big!" even though it's obviously not even close to 50gb.

 

Thank you!

[daniel942]

Trying to figure out where the impolite part was. Best I could guess was the forum smarties part, which was meant literally. There are smart people on this forum who take there time to help each other out and it is a great thing!

 

Now, this has been a problem for a lot of people. If you do a search for the 'project too big error', there are quite a few posts, no solutions. If you have a solution to it that would be GREAT. I am not sure what you mean by 'split your incoming file in two pieces' Do you just mean have two movies instead of one? People on the forum seem to indicate that it is any time the project is two layers on bluray (>25gb) then the error occurs whether it is one movie greater than 25gb or many movies that total over 25gb.

 

Thanks again for the help smart people in the forum (formerly forum smarties....)

 

Mark Miner

 

I don't think that the splitting is a guaranteed idea -- I had taken a 20gb video file, inserted it into DVDit twice (i.e. 40gb total) and got the Too Big error. **This same video burned fine individually (i.e. 20gb total) for a single-layer disc.

 

Scenarist works.

[daniel942]

It's a known issue, I would try creating a new project, add each clip and do a build, then see if one of the clips is causing the problem (your typical debugging method for DVDit )

 

Anything over 25gb and it won't work. I can tell it turn burn a 20gb file in dual-layer and it works. But if I duplicate that same file, "Project size is too big!"

[mjolnarn]

Might be an encoding prob for those having it, I am using preencoded m2v files.

 

To extend my own knowledge, I just made a 48 gig folder, source media was 3 preencoded m2v files and 3 wav files, no reencoding was done, neither for the video nor the audio.

[ciscoheat]

For what its worth, here's an update on what I know. Furthermore, I know someone on an AVID board that did have success. I'm trying to gather more details. If you had success, please post and let us know. I don't know if this problem is still widespread (widespread being relative to those few burning to dual layer blu-rays) or just with me! Anyway, here's my update:

 

I have tried to create several different image files (and volumes), but I can only create them when I limit the project to a certain size (apparently). I use the following Encode Settings:

 

VBR

Min: 5,000 kbps

Target: 20,000 kbps

Max: 40,000 kbps

 

This yields a 35 GB project with SUCCESS.

 

Using all of the EXACT same assets but changing to the following will NOT yield success:

 

VBR

Min: 5,000 kbps

Target: 24,000 kpbs

Max: 40,000 kbps

 

This yields a 42 GB project with FAILURE.

 

I've also tried the following:

 

VBR

Min: 5,000 kbps

Target: 23,000 kpbs

Max: 40,000 kbps

 

This yields a 40.5 GB project with FAILURE.

 

I'm going to try 22,000 kpbs as the Target yielding a 39 GB project and then 19,000 kbps just to see what happens. Is it possible that there is simply a typo and its expecting a size under 40 GB instead of 50 GB? The size on the computer of all the gi files match what DVDit Pro is suggesting (or at least as close to the nearest GB).

 

Thanks,

 

Shannon

[danny]

BD-CMF is the cutting-master-format, equal to DVD-CMF, but it´s a bit different. there are 2 versions of it BDCMF and sony CMF. DVDitHD is using sony CMF v0.92. it will implement the mandatory AACS-encryption to the data.

 

within DVDitHD you need to have a ISAN-number to create a replication-premaster, otherwise you wont be able to create your premaster for replication. you need to get your ISAN-number from here: http://www.isan.org/docs/How%20to%20get%20...%20for%20HD.pdf

 

if your working with a MAC ( as I´ve seen your talking about DVD SP), there is another possibilty to creat BDCMF for replication with this application from you muxed BDMV-folder: http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/

 

very easy to use and solid proofed.

 

 

danny

[mjolnarn]

I too am using pre-encoded files. There is no re-encoding being done. I use an m2v and an ac3 file that work fine and have no re-encoding. I am doing it exactly the same way that I always do it with the single layer size bluray except when I get over the 25gb limit it wont do it....

 

Are you burning it, or writing it to an iso or a volume?

 

thanks!

 

Mark Miner

 

I am creating a voulme, or, as I call it, export to a folder, I never create image files cause of the ridicolous gi exporting that was introduced after 6,3.

 

I also never go direct - to - disc from any editing app, lots of work and lots of hours can dissapear if there is something wrong with the disc or the burner, a created file is always a file, it never dissapears.

The audio in my files is uncompressed wav, I always tries to get the best possible audio when working with bd discs

 

[Mark Miner]

SOLUTION! (half way there)

 

 

Ok,

 

so I have the same problem with my current project. I have made about 25 projects with DVDITPROHD with good results. I make mpg2 video that is compliant and bring it in and author bluray without problems. I have not had any serious probs in these projects. Today, I tried to make a project with a movie that is 2hours 15 mins long and 27GB in size. (It is a compilation of two years worth of shooting in St Thomas, US Virgin Islands). Everything is great until the dreaded project too big error. It is not hd space, it is an error in DVDIT. So, as a test I tried to burn a CMF for mastering. The project completed! When it asked for a ISAN number, I put in 000000018947000000000000 a generic number from Wikipedia. The whole thing completed without problems. Now HOW THE HELL DO I WRITE MY CMF IMAGE TO A BLURAY?

 

Mark Miner

 

[daniel942]

SOLUTION! (half way there)

 

 

Ok,

 

so I have the same problem with my current project. I have made about 25 projects with DVDITPROHD with good results. I make mpg2 video that is compliant and bring it in and author bluray without problems. I have not had any serious probs in these projects. Today, I tried to make a project with a movie that is 2hours 15 mins long and 27GB in size. (It is a compilation of two years worth of shooting in St Thomas, US Virgin Islands). Everything is great until the dreaded project too big error. It is not hd space, it is an error in DVDIT. So, as a test I tried to burn a CMF for mastering. The project completed! When it asked for a ISAN number, I put in 000000018947000000000000 a generic number from Wikipedia. The whole thing completed without problems. Now HOW THE HELL DO I WRITE MY CMF IMAGE TO A BLURAY?

 

Mark Miner

 

 

I found a good site about CMF and software: http://mograph.net/board/index.php?showtopic=16700

 

Sonic Scenarist and Sony Blu-print are apparently the only software for burning CMF. I know that these programs are super expensive and rather complex to use (i.e. DVDit is very consumer friendly). I'll look into this software and write back if I have a good outcome... It might be wise to use DVDit to prepare the CMF and then just use 1 of these $$$ to burn, rather than deal with the $$$ program itself.

[West Hills Rich]

I've had exactly the same problem and have been having a stellar conversation with Roxio Support: In every response they provide links to self-help, the community forum and every type of general FAQ info other than the assistance I need and, over the last week, still have not been able to come up with the solution. When I mentioned that the problem has been on the forum for a year they respond by scolding me that they are not connected with the forum and would never have time to monitor all the problems there. They've asked for screen shots of the error message and a .txt file pouring out all the details of my system. I'm thinking that, because everything hangs up with the "too big" error message at the very last when establishing links, the .wmv in my motion menu may be the problem even though the .mpg file gets transcoded, too. I'm in the process of trying a .mpg version, in the middle of burning to a volume at this time.

 

If anyone has solved the problem on his/her own over the past year I'd like to hear about it.

[Mark Miner]

Ok, the only difference between your plan and mine is the uncompressed wave. I use a 384bit dolby file that passes without re-encoding. I always burn a volume and then use imgburn to write to bluray. I am willing to try using wav's instead. What is the best format for no re-encoding of the audio as a wav file? As I said I always use ac3 at 384.

 

I really want to get this problem behind me and continue to burn kick &%$ high def content!!!!

 

Thanks again,

 

Mark Miner

I am creating a voulme, or, as I call it, export to a folder, I never create image files cause of the ridicolous gi exporting that was introduced after 6,3.

 

I also never go direct - to - disc from any editing app, lots of work and lots of hours can dissapear if there is something wrong with the disc or the burner, a created file is always a file, it never dissapears.

The audio in my files is uncompressed wav, I always tries to get the best possible audio when working with bd discs

 

[ciscoheat]

BUMP...you guys seemed to be getting somewhat close...but then the thread drops. I can't burn to a dual layer blu-ray disc. I have over 6 GB of space left (giving plenty of room for the crappy space estimator) and still not luck. I've tried volume and now an image file. There are two start up videos, a still menu, and then two large video files. My video files are a 35mbs m2v file. I've been burning single layers for 3 years with no problems (or very few problems!) and all of a sudden, I add in a dual layer and bam...no dice.

 

Thanks,

 

SB

[Joachim]

I have created a test BD yesterdy night. It was composed of 46.2 GB (value in decimal figure, not in computer type of figure, where 1 kilo is 1024) vido (MPEG 2 720p/29.97, .m2v) plus 3.0 GB audio (uncompressed PCM, .wav). I added three menues, wheere one is a main menue and the two others are sub-menues.

 

DVDit Pro-HD showed 1.06 GB of remaining space with HD-transcode setting "High Quality VBR" with target bitrate 24Mb/s (minimum 15 Mb/s, maximum 30 Mb/s) and Dolby Digital (2/0).

 

I started compiling into a volume, which has run all the way up to the "write volume" phase. Here it stopped with the "Project Size too big" error.

 

The indication of available space (bottom left) has changed and showed 2.03 GB too big, now. For a quicker test, I replaced the original video and audio files with the transcoded files from DVDit. They are slightly smaller (video 44.6 GB plus Dolby Digital audio 0.74 GB). The storage indication at the bottom left did not change and still showed 2.06 GB too big for a dual layer BD. Nevertheless, I started compiling an ISO file. It has run up to "Creating Links" and stopped again with the "Project Size too big" error.

 

Now I changed the transcoding parameters to target bit rate 20 Mb/s (minimum 15 Mb/s maximum 30 Mb/s). The storage indication now changed to 4.65 GB remaining. I started compiling a volume, which ended successfully. The size of the created volume 43.7 GB (decimal notation).

 

Summary: DVDit ProHD can handle disk sizes above 40 GB. The indication of available disk space (bottom left) is not accurate and should only be taken as an aproximation. It is advisable to have about 10% disk space left, i.e., the used disk space should not exceed 45 GB.

 

I hope this helps others to overcome similar problems.

[plee]

Does anyone have a solution for the "Project size is too big!" error in Roxio DVDit 6.4?

 

I can burn a 20gb blu-ray with single or dual layer... If I import that same file twice or use a 30gb file, an error pops-up "Project size is too big!" even though it's obviously not even close to 50gb.

 

Thank you!

 

It's a known issue, I would try creating a new project, add each clip and do a build, then see if one of the clips is causing the problem (your typical debugging method for DVDit )

[daniel942]

I've had exactly the same problem and have been having a stellar conversation with Roxio Support: In every response they provide links to self-help, the community forum and every type of general FAQ info other than the assistance I need and, over the last week, still have not been able to come up with the solution. When I mentioned that the problem has been on the forum for a year they respond by scolding me that they are not connected with the forum and would never have time to monitor all the problems there. They've asked for screen shots of the error message and a .txt file pouring out all the details of my system. I'm thinking that, because everything hangs up with the "too big" error message at the very last when establishing links, the .wmv in my motion menu may be the problem even though the .mpg file gets transcoded, too. I'm in the process of trying a .mpg version, in the middle of burning to a volume at this time.

 

If anyone has solved the problem on his/her own over the past year I'd like to hear about it.

 

 

I went through a month of trying everything with Roxio support, to the point where they wanted me to format my computer and start over. I decided to get a refund instead (and complain plenty in the process).

 

My feeling is that it's a programming issue, where Dvdit won't work properly with certain computers/configurations/other software installed. I was hoping that Roxio support could find out what triggers this error... perhaps, there's some behind-the-scenes calculation issue?

 

I'd be suspicious that your media is the problem >> As I mentioned, I had a 20gb video clip that burned fine whether in the single-layer or dual-layer setting. If I placed that same video clip in twice (40gb), it gave the "Project size is too big!" error. I had no menu/chapters/audio/etc. when trying this in order to simplify things.

 

I would recommend trying other blu-ray burning software. They won't do Metadata Importing (for chapters), which is why I got Roxio... but, they will work for you. Of course, if you ever find a solution from Roxio please post, I would re-purchase the software.

I imagine that formatting my computer (and then installing Roxio before anything else, after Windows XP) may have fixed it -- but I haven't got the time to do this and mess up other software.

[daniel942]

I found a good site about CMF and software: http://mograph.net/board/index.php?showtopic=16700

 

Sonic Scenarist and Sony Blu-print are apparently the only software for burning CMF. I know that these programs are super expensive and rather complex to use (i.e. DVDit is very consumer friendly). I'll look into this software and write back if I have a good outcome... It might be wise to use DVDit to prepare the CMF and then just use 1 of these $$$ to burn, rather than deal with the $$$ program itself.

 

What format is this CMF >> is it an .IMG?

 

[Mark Miner]

I absolutely do not need to replicate a bluray. The program does not work when making a bluray dual layer burn or image or volume. Everytime it says project too big. (it is NOT too big) For some stupid reason, the CMF writing module will still work with the project. (I used a generic ISAN number that I got from wikipedia). Now I have this CMF volume on my drive that I want to make a bluray from. Is there any way? Again I do not need copy protection or any of that. I am simply trying to make a bluray dual layer that will work. (I have made at least 25 single layer projects that all work fine. This is my first project that goes over 25gb necessitating the dual layer!) This is a well documented, never handled by Roxio bug that I (and many others) are trying to work around.

 

Again, the bullet

 

I have a CMF volume on my hard drive and I need to burn it to a bluray myself, are there any programs that will do it?

 

Thanks forum smarties!!!

 

 

 

Mark Miner

www.miners.com

video and photography solutions.

 

 

BD-CMF is the cutting-master-format, equal to DVD-CMF, but it´s a bit different. there are 2 versions of it BDCMF and sony CMF. DVDitHD is using sony CMF v0.92. it will implement the mandatory AACS-encryption to the data.

 

within DVDitHD you need to have a ISAN-number to create a replication-premaster, otherwise you wont be able to create your premaster for replication. you need to get your ISAN-number from here: http://www.isan.org/docs/How%20to%20get%20...%20for%20HD.pdf

 

if your working with a MAC ( as I´ve seen your talking about DVD SP), there is another possibilty to creat BDCMF for replication with this application from you muxed BDMV-folder: http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/

 

very easy to use and solid proofed.

 

 

danny

 

[Mark Miner]

Actually it is a directory with a bunch of files in it that DVDIT pro made for CMF. It is not a single file. The extensions are weird, they are not common BDMV files.... For me it is a dir with about 29gb in it. (which is about right for my project.)

 

 

What format is this CMF >> is it an .IMG?

 

[firenhancer]

Here is some info from Apple DVD Studio Pro User Manual -

 

"The Cutting Master Format:

 

There are some features of the DVD specification that you cannot include on red laser DVD-R discs that you burn with your system. These features, which must be added by a replication facility, include:

 

- Copyright management (including CSS and Macrovision)

 

- Double-sided disc information

 

Traditionally, the only way to include these features on your replicated disc was to use a DLT drive. The Cutting Master Format (CMF) has been adapted to the DVD-R format so that now you can burn a DVD-R disc on your system and a replication facility can use that disc and include these features on the discs they make. CMF for DVD-R is only supported by authoring drives and media.

 

Not all replication facilities support CMF discs; be sure to check with them ahead of time. Also, discs formatted as CMF may not play correctly on all DVD players. Only use CMF when supplying a disc to a replication facility.

 

Important: Only a replicator can create DVDs with copyright management features. Using CMF discs allows you to format the data properly so that the replicator can add the copyright information."

[mjolnarn]

Thanks forum smarties!!!

 

Due to other reasons, I am not using Dvdit so much for bd creating nowadays as in the past.

 

I have no probs creating a 25 + iso image however, just split your incoming file in two pieces, works well, at least at my sys.

 

And this forum seems not to be moderated, could we please be a bit more polite to eachother maybe ??

 

Regs

Tomas

 

[Mark Miner]

Trying to figure out where the impolite part was. Best I could guess was the forum smarties part, which was meant literally. There are smart people on this forum who take there time to help each other out and it is a great thing!

 

Now, this has been a problem for a lot of people. If you do a search for the 'project too big error', there are quite a few posts, no solutions. If you have a solution to it that would be GREAT. I am not sure what you mean by 'split your incoming file in two pieces' Do you just mean have two movies instead of one? People on the forum seem to indicate that it is any time the project is two layers on bluray (>25gb) then the error occurs whether it is one movie greater than 25gb or many movies that total over 25gb.

 

Thanks again for the help smart people in the forum (formerly forum smarties....)

 

Mark Miner

 

 

Due to other reasons, I am not using Dvdit so much for bd creating nowadays as in the past.

 

I have no probs creating a 25 + iso image however, just split your incoming file in two pieces, works well, at least at my sys.

 

And this forum seems not to be moderated, could we please be a bit more polite to eachother maybe ??

 

Regs

Tomas

 

[Mark Miner]

I too am using pre-encoded files. There is no re-encoding being done. I use an m2v and an ac3 file that work fine and have no re-encoding. I am doing it exactly the same way that I always do it with the single layer size bluray except when I get over the 25gb limit it wont do it....

 

Are you burning it, or writing it to an iso or a volume?

 

thanks!

 

Mark Miner

 

 

 

 

Might be an encoding prob for those having it, I am using preencoded m2v files.

 

To extend my own knowledge, I just made a 48 gig folder, source media was 3 preencoded m2v files and 3 wav files, no reencoding was done, neither for the video nor the audio.