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Crossfading use makes cd playback flakey...

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I am having problems.

I have Creator Classic, and love the cross-fading and fade in and out controls.

However, it seems thet when I use them, the burnt cd's rarely play properly - track one and maybe track 2 don't play, though if I start playback on track 3 I can rewind back to track 2 and it then plays.

Buring a cd direct is fine, leading me to think it is not my optical drive.

I am thinking of buying EMC 2009, and am currently trying it out, but the first cd I have burnt does the same thing.

So, any clues what is wrong ?

Do I need a new optical drive maybe ? As said earlier, it seems to work fine for any other disc I make...

 

Thanks all !

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Wow that must be old – all Audio Projects were removed from Creator Classic many versions ago…

 

I would suspect it is your media or your Player – perhaps both!

 

Verbatim is media of known quality!

 

Burners use a Laser and like any light, they wear out over time. Still, I may have suspected a Burner a time or 2 but never solved a problem by replacing it :lol:

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I am thinking of buying EMC 2009, and am currently trying it out, but the first cd I have burnt does the same thing.

 

 

Thanks all !

 

How are you trying it out? Where did you get a Trial Version of the software?

 

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Wow that must be old – all Audio Projects were removed from Creator Classic many versions ago…

 

I would suspect it is your media or your Player – perhaps both!

 

Verbatim is media of known quality!

 

Burners use a Laser and like any light, they wear out over time. Still, I may have suspected a Burner a time or 2 but never solved a problem by replacing it :lol:

 

 

Well, I use verbatim , imation and TDK media, all with the same results, and the burner would seem to be the logical cause, but it burns straight copies, even using Roxio software without a problem.

I guess I have to try a new optical drive really.

 

As for the free trial download, I cannot remember, but googled it - there are several offering it - this is one..

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/CD-DVD-Tools/...a-Creator.shtml

 

Not being a big internet user I assume it is a legal download..?

I am also trying out a couple of other similar bits of software, and am waiting for a copy of EMC6.5 to arrive that I got from Ebay.

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Yes that is a very old trial version – been out of production for about 2 years… It was replaced by EMC 10, which in turn was replaced by Creator 2009… It’s old!

 

I don’t really do audio so I cannot advise. As far as your burning problems your media does look good.

 

Best I can tell you is that if you buy Creator 2009 directly from Roxio, you get a 30 day refund guarantee.

 

Buy it from a Retail store and you are at the mercy of their policy.

 

Oh there never was anything called EMC 6.5…

 

There was an EMC 6.2 back in 2003.

 

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Yes that is a very old trial version – been out of production for about 2 years… It was replaced by EMC 10, which in turn was replaced by Creator 2009… It’s old!

 

I don’t really do audio so I cannot advise. As far as your burning problems your media does look good.

 

Best I can tell you is that if you buy Creator 2009 directly from Roxio, you get a 30 day refund guarantee.

 

Buy it from a Retail store and you are at the mercy of their policy.

 

Oh there never was anything called EMC 6.5…

 

There was an EMC 6.2 back in 2003.

 

 

Ha - my mistake - it is a version of EMC 6 I have bought..!

As you correctly say, I have downloaded a version of EMC 9, not 2009 as I said.

My problem with buying is that unless I know it will work, then I do not want it.

Can I download it and then 'return it' - if so, then how - do they de-activate my key or something ? I am loathe to get anything posted to me in Spain, as our postal system is such that little ever arrives here.

I guess I will try a new optical drive first, then see if my old software works. I have no need at all for all that EMC2009 offers, I just want to burn cd compilations that play with easy-to-use editing, and Roxio used to do it perfectly...

Progress, eh...!!!

 

Thanks for the replies guys !

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Yes you can do the download and your Product Key is emailed separately.

 

Actually, many people prefer the AudioCentral program that was last included in EMC 6. You could try a Custom Install an just put the minimum of the Suite on with EMC 6.

 

But I will warn you that EMC 6 is dated and Windows Updates since it was written may break it…

 

I suggest you make sure you have a System Recovery Restore Point set before you install it.

 

Since you are not really interested in the Video portion, another consideration would be RecordNow 10 products – Here. The same return policy would apply to a download.

 

I wish some of the other Gurus with more audio experience would chime in here.

 

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Jim, You are giving all the right answers.

 

I would have the same suggestions that I would give it the issue was a one with video.

 

1) Update any firmware for your CD burner (if here is one available)

2) Update your audio drivers. Do you have an audio chip or audio card?

3)Burn to an image file (C2d or whatever option you have.)

4) Use top quality write once discs. as Jim said. I don't know what you have available but there are some garbage discs out there.

5) Try playing the disc on multiple players; perhaps the ones you have need a good cleaning with compressed dry air.

6) Make sure you have a lot of free space on your computer and that it has been checked for viruses and other malware and has been recently defragged.

 

What do you have for a computer and OS?

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I am having problems.

I have Creator Classic, and love the cross-fading and fade in and out controls.

However, it seems thet when I use them, the burnt cd's rarely play properly - track one and maybe track 2 don't play, though if I start playback on track 3 I can rewind back to track 2 and it then plays.

Buring a cd direct is fine, leading me to think it is not my optical drive.

I am thinking of buying EMC 2009, and am currently trying it out, but the first cd I have burnt does the same thing.

So, any clues what is wrong ?

Do I need a new optical drive maybe ? As said earlier, it seems to work fine for any other disc I make...

 

Thanks all !

The only thing I can think of is that when it's burning the disc and doing the cross-fading, the processor isn't keeping up, which means that you're getting some buffer underruns during the transitions. These are corrected, but aren't playing well. You could test this by "burning" the disc to an image file, .CIF first, and then burning the .CIF image to CD. That way all the processing for the cross-fade can be done first, then the actual burn can happen in a separate step.

 

Try that and see if it solves the problem, at the expense of making it a two-step process.

 

Hope that helps!

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Jim, You are giving all the right answers.

 

I would have the same suggestions that I would give it the issue was a one with video.

 

1) Update any firmware for your CD burner (if here is one available)

2) Update your audio drivers. Do you have an audio chip or audio card?

3)Burn to an image file (C2d or whatever option you have.)

4) Use top quality write once discs. as Jim said. I don't know what you have available but there are some garbage discs out there.

5) Try playing the disc on multiple players; perhaps the ones you have need a good cleaning with compressed dry air.

6) Make sure you have a lot of free space on your computer and that it has been checked for viruses and other malware and has been recently defragged.

 

What do you have for a computer and OS?

 

Just an update, and sorry for the long silence - I have been away with the inlaws who don't even have a computer..!

My pc is all pretty new, with an Asus P5q pro mobo, 8400 core duo CPU, 4 gb ram, 2x1tb HD space, all clean and defragged, and XP pro, so it ought to be up to the job. I also have an M-Audio 2497 (i think thats the number) audio card.

I have just returned with a new optical drive to try out, only use TDK or verbatim blanks, and the main cd player at home is a Naim Audio that really ought to be up to the task - it plays everything else perfectly !

I have not had time yet to try installing my copy of EMC 6, but will report back soon, but I really do appreciate the help and input here, especially you Jim !!

 

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Just an update, and sorry for the long silence - I have been away with the inlaws who don't even have a computer..!

Did you have to chop wood for the stove???

 

As far as your PC being “new” – it doesn’t mean a thing!!! They leave the factory out of date when they are made! It is called manufacturing… Sorry, there are no little elves personally looking after your welfare on the assembly line :lol:

 

If you don't have Creator 2009 then we need to move this to the EMC 6 area, it does not belong to this forum.

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