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I know this was discussed in earlier articles and it doesn't appear that anything has changed but today MS has released more info.

 

Zdnet article

 

 

Microsoft is still working to finish Windows Vista, but the company wants consumers to "Get Ready" now.

 

On Thursday, the company kicked off a campaign aimed at helping customers prepare for the new operating system, which is set for a mainstream launch in January.

 

As expected, Microsoft gave details of two programs. The "Vista-capable" program allows machines that meet a minimum set of requirements to tout themselves as able to run the new Windows.

 

Computer makers who meet higher requirements will be able to tout their machines as "Premium Ready," indicating the PCs are able to take advantage of higher-end features, such as Vista's Aero graphics.

 

"There's really no reason to wait until the launch of Windows Vista to start shopping for a PC that can deliver a great Windows Vista experience or to start thinking about upgrading your current PC to windows Vista," product manager Greg Amrofell said in a telephone interview.

 

Microsoft also launched on Thursday a "Get Ready" Web site, which includes an Upgrade Advisor tool to help people determine just how Vista-ready an existing PC is.

 

The downloadable program is designed to tell people which features and versions of Vista their PC is able to run, thereby abstracting some of the complex requirements of Vista. For example, Aero graphics require a certain amount of memory bandwidth--a measurement of PC performance that few people are likely to know about in their machine. The advisor tool will simply say whether a PC will work out or not, rather than focus on specific requirements.

 

That way, customers "don't have to spend time in the footnotes of complex system requirements," said Mike Burk, the PR Manager, Windows Client.

 

That said, Microsoft did publish official minimum requirements for Vista on Thursday, largely matching the Vista-capable specifications. Systems need an 800 MHz processor, 512MB of memory, a 20GB hard drive with 15GB of free space and a CD-ROM drive. That guarantees access to Vista's core features, but not Aero and other premium features.

 

To be classified as Vista-capable, a computer needs an 800MHz processor, 512MB of memory and a DirectX 9-capable graphics card. Premium Ready machines need a 1GHz processor, 128MB of graphics memory, 1GB of system memory, a 40GB hard drive and an internal or external DVD-ROM drive.

 

Most shipping PCs should be Vista-capable, Microsoft said. For example, all systems introduced by Dell this year are Vista-capable. The majority of Dell's Vista-capable machines will support Aero graphics and more than three-fourths of its models can be configured to run the fancier graphics. Dell is also offering 17 custom-configured systems that are designed to support Aero.

 

"Our sense is that the vast majority of PCs do meet the requirements for the Vista-capable logo," Amrofell said. As for Premium Ready, he said that "a good number of PCs do meet the bar, and that's going to grow over the next few months."

 

The marketing programs and upgrade tool are designed to ease some of the uncertainty around Vista well ahead of the back-to-school and holiday shopping seasons, the two biggest PC selling times of the year. Vista had long been expected to arrive by the 2006 holidays, but Microsoft said in March that it would not arrive on store shelves until January.

 

Kevin Johnson, head of the business unit that includes Windows, said in an interview with CNET News.com this week that Microsoft is likely to have some kind of discount or upgrade program to help those who buy a PC this holiday season upgrade to Vista.

 

"Yeah, there's likely to be something," Johnson said, without giving specifics.

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To be classified as Vista-capable, a computer needs an 800MHz processor, 512MB of memory and a DirectX 9-capable graphics card. Premium Ready machines need a 1GHz processor, 128MB of graphics memory, 1GB of system memory, a 40GB hard drive and an internal or external DVD-ROM drive.

 

SD or RD Ram, 100 or 133 buss speed, AGP 4x,

Yea Right!

 

cdanteek

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SD or RD Ram, 100 or 133 buss speed, AGP 4x,

Yea Right!

 

cdanteek

 

LOL! RD Ram still rules. Unfortunately, no new motherboards support it. I could use another 512MB in my backup computer, which uses the RAMBUS.

 

That P4 2.2GHz, with 512MB of the PC800 RAMBUS, can run circles around this machine, on some processes.

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Whew,

 

It was quite a relief to read that, Paul.

 

Reading this ABC news item http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ZDM/story?id=1977797 I was told . . .

 

Microsoft have this real good PR thing they do?, they release 10 different media releases of the minim Spec PC configuration, and they are all different, then when users go out and buy it, and it doesn't work, then they can find the media letter that gets them off the liability of providing clear information on what users should have... dam brilliant plan... why didn't i think of that.

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.... a 20GB hard drive with 15GB of free space and a CD-ROM drive. That guarantees access to Vista's core features, but not Aero and other premium features.

 

A 20 GB hard drive with 15 GB of free space? :huh:

 

I guess they don't expect you to install any other programs on that computer.

 

And we all know that to run WinXP, you really need 512 Mb RAM. I wonder what the real recommendation will be for Vista.

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I just scanned my computer with their upgrade advisor and got these results....Congratulations! Your PC can run the core experiences of Windows Vista.

 

 

 

This despite the fact that they don't have drivers for my i/o controller, usb controllers, or network adapters. :)

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I guess I'll just sit back and read and listen to all the "Hype" and wait till vista is actuall out and then after that, I'll wait some more before I go out and buy it or build another computer that fits all the necessary requirements :)

 

Frank....

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I think I'll wait even longer - like a few years when Service pack 1 for Vista comes out. Then I'll decide whether or not to purchase a computer with it preinstalled.

 

In the mean time, I'm looking for a nice AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ or 4800+ with 4gig mem with Windows media Center.

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Hey Gary, that sounds like a mean machine !! I was playing around with a computer last week that had Windows Media Center and I'm not sure I liked it. I guess I'm just to set on the one I have now. The older I get the less I want to change :):huh:

 

Frank....

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Hey Gary, that sounds like a mean machine !! I was playing around with a computer last week that had Windows Media Center and I'm not sure I liked it. I guess I'm just to set on the one I have now. The older I get the less I want to change :):huh:

 

Frank....

IMO, Windows Media Center is just ok. I've mentioned many times that I use GB-PVR to record shows to my pc and it does much more than MCE. And, it's free! (I donate yearly) It's got a great forum too.

But, since many people put pc's in bedrooms, dorms and offices and want a tv, MCE does what's needed.

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My main thoughts were, if using W Media Center, if in any way there might be some conflicts with EMC 7 or 7.5. Or ver. 8 for that matter. There has been a couple of posts on the forum where some OP had a certain problem, and had mentioned that their system was using Windows Media Center. And I always wondered if that could have played a part in their problems. Either software wise or possibly a hardware problem with drivers, firmware or ?

 

Frank....

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My main thoughts were, if using W Media Center, if in any way there might be some conflicts with EMC 7 or 7.5. Or ver. 8 for that matter. There has been a couple of posts on the forum where some OP had a certain problem, and had mentioned that their system was using Windows Media Center. And I always wondered if that could have played a part in their problems. Either software wise or possibly a hardware problem with drivers, firmware or ?

 

Frank....

 

Sorry Frank, I can't answer that. I'm testing Vista and it has the latest MCE included but I have it installed on a separate drive and don't have EMC installed with it. I don't know of any problems with MCE running with EMC but I have seen a few posts that suspected the 2 might be causing problems. Hopefully, more people running both will chime in with their opinions.

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had mentioned that their system was using Windows Media Center. And I always wondered if that could have played a part in their problems.

Possibly.... WMC is based on Windows XP Professional and I have seen more problems posted here with WinXP Pro that go unsolved.

 

To get Dual processor or Dual core processor support, you need Windows XP Pro or WMC. The Home Edition may take advantage of Hyperthreading, but will not recognize dual processors. I understand that all versions of Vista will recognize dual core processors. I'm not sure about SMP though.

 

As for WMC, I probably would never use the multimedia interface.

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I'm aware of the duel processor requirements Gary and I too have heard that the the XP Professional O.S. does have problems with some programs. Although I'm not aware of any with EMC. Just getting some information ahead of time before I ever think about changing systems. The few posts that I remember reading regarding some conflicts between EMC and the new system, were probably the same ones you were eluding to Paul.

 

Frank....

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All I can think of was the pre-release hoopla over XP only to discover that vast numbers of third-party software vendors did not have ready products or drivers, including those who wrote applications for XP itself. I don't know what made me think of that, apart from Gary's post, but it just crossed my mind.

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All I can think of was the pre-release hoopla over XP only to discover that vast numbers of third-party software vendors did not have ready products or drivers, including those who wrote applications for XP itself. I don't know what made me think of that, apart from Gary's post, but it just crossed my mind.

I find that funny too. And, waiting in line at midnight to get new releases is hard for me to understand. I guess some people get their new OS at midnight and are still having driver problems at 5 am.

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And you're not kidding either Paul. I know of a few that have done exactly what you are describing. A store advertises that they will have a new software program out on a given day and time and an hour before the store opens there will be a line a mile long waiting to buy the product. How does that go----LOFLMAO :)

 

Frank....

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