Working with both HD and SD (16:9)

[Oscarface]

I shot an event with an Canon HV20 set to HDV, and a JVC GY-DV300U (SD camera set to 16:9 widescreen).

I figured since HD is naturally 16:9, the SD 16:9 would match up, but I have the footage from both cameras in Videowave right now and the HD footage fills the whole 16:9 preview window, while the SD footage has black bars on the top and bottom.

 

I'm going to be burning this onto regular DVD for viewing on a regular DVD player (not HD), so the HD will be downconverted when I bring it all into MYDVD any burn it. I just want to know how to match up the footage so that it's not going back and forth between filling the screen and showing black bars.

 

 

 

 

[Oscarface]

I've spent 3 days searching online for the solution to this problem, when I should have been delivering my project to my client by now. So if ANYONE has an answer please let me know asap.

 

I've read about changing settings in other programs when caputuring "non true 16:9" footage, but I don't see any setting like that in Roxio when caputuring.

 

I've read that SDcopy changes the flag when capturing, but that seems to only work for newer cameras, not an older camera (JVC GY DV300U) like mine.

 

It seems that's what I need though - to somehow get roxio to detect that it's letterbox 16:9 and display it as 16:9 - filling the 16:9 preview window and not having the black bars on the top and bottom.

 

I just really need to match up my footage so that I'm not cutting from a camera shot that shows black bars to a camera that shows real 16:9 (no back bars).

 

At a standstill here,

 

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[sknis]

I shot an event with an Canon HV20 set to HDV, and a JVC GY-DV300U (SD camera set to 16:9 widescreen).

I figured since HD is naturally 16:9, the SD 16:9 would match up, but I have the footage from both cameras in Videowave right now and the HD footage fills the whole 16:9 preview window, while the SD footage has black bars on the top and bottom.

 

I'm going to be burning this onto regular DVD for viewing on a regular DVD player (not HD), so the HD will be downconverted when I bring it all into MYDVD any burn it. I just want to know how to match up the footage so that it's not going back and forth between filling the screen and showing black bars.

 

Read this; it may help with that JVC camera.

[Jim_Hardin]

The text in Production Settings is dynamic, changes with the Project… I have screen caps going back to Version 6.

 

I’ll call on a couple of others to look at this, but I believe it will come down to this…

 

You camcorder does not take true 16:9 and nothing can change that. They fill the screen horizontally so anything to eliminate the bars will either crop the sides or distort to fill the screen.

 

If you use a color panel and add the clip as an Overlay, you can enlarge it and try it different ways (stretched or cropped).

 

But since you are mixing the clips you may have to go with the side crop to make it more seamless.

[Oscarface]

Read this; it may help with that JVC camera.

 

I downloaded that program but it didn't seem to work for me. I think it's just for newer JVC cameras like the Everio.

 

My JVC camera is an older SD camera. And actually, I just read that it's letterbox 16:9, not true 16:9. So I guess that's why the black bars show up on the top and bottom of it's footage in the Videowave 16:9 preview window, while my new HV20 footage (true 16:9) fills the screen.

 

So how can I match up the footage? I spent awhile editing the footage from the HV20, and just added the footage from the JVC when I saw the problem. So, I hope I don't have to readd the HV20 footage that I edited or anything. It would be great if there's an easy way to match up the JVC footage to the HV20 footage.

 

Any ideas anyone?

[ggrussell]

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Looking at your screen shot, it is letterboxed, but for some reason is also being stretched to fit horizontal. It should have shown up like Jim's 3rd screen shot with black on all 4 sides.

 

What you will need to do is select ENTIRE SOURCE and then use pan/zoom to chop off the black bars.

[Jim_Hardin]

Couple of things have to happen before this is going to work…

 

In VideoWave, make sure you are set to a Widescreen Project before you start:

 

Then try the 'Fill screen' Production Setting (File – Production Settings):

 

The Fill Screen and Show Entire Source settings only apply to clips that are added after the setting is changed…

 

I am guessing you are set to ‘Show entire source’ now and it looks like this:

 

Changing to ‘Fill screen’ and adding the same clip, should look like this:

 

But there will be some loses at the top and bottom because it is not recorded in a true 16:9 ratio. Let us know… There are some other ways to handle this but everything is a compromise.

 

[Oscarface]

Thank you for your reply

 

Yes, my project is set to 16:9 widescreen.

 

I changed it to fill screen, and then readded the footage, but it didn't change at all. Though, in your example it says "Default handling for non-4:3 sources, and in my project it says "Default handling for non-16:9 sources" Only difference I can see.

 

Here is an image of the 16:9 (letterbox) clip on my timeline:

 

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And then the HV20 footage, of course, fills the whole 16:9 screen.