CD Text not displaying on burned Enhanced Audio CDs

[griffgirl]

(Using Intel Mac OS 10.5.8)

To burn the Enhanced Audio CD, I have done the following:

 

- selected Mac/PC format under Data

- added data (just a PDF)

- switched to Audio section

- Select Enhanced Audio

- added audio tracks (AIFF files) named by track title

- ensured Add CD-TEXT is selected at bottom

- burned disc

 

 

When I put the disc in my car stereo (Alpine CDA-9886), track titles, artist/album info show up. When I put the disc into a PC, it plays fine, but there are no track titles, artist info or album title.

 

Disc is for replication; replicator says the master has CD-Text errors. Not sure what program is being used to determine this, but I do know that the client this is for was also unable to get CD text to come up on his computer.

 

Is this because it's an enhanced audio CD and is dependent on/varies by whatever is reading the disc?

[patatrox]

Hi (neighbor)!

 

So effectively, there is NO way for a PC user to be able to insert this disc into their computer and see the album and track titles? I just popped the CD into a PC and opened it up in Windows Media Player (I'm a total Mac user, so I have NO idea what a "typical" music player is on a PC), where of course there is no cd text info. My customer is insistent that the CD text info be readable on a PC too. I'm not quite sure how to explain to him that it's a constraint of the PC and that it's not that the disc Master is faulty. It just seems like a really weird limitation of the PC.

 

Install iTunes on the PC and use that to playback the disc instead of Media Player, iTunes support for CD-Text was added some time ago.

 

[griffgirl]

Hi (neighbor)!

 

So effectively, there is NO way for a PC user to be able to insert this disc into their computer and see the album and track titles? I just popped the CD into a PC and opened it up in Windows Media Player (I'm a total Mac user, so I have NO idea what a "typical" music player is on a PC), where of course there is no cd text info. My customer is insistent that the CD text info be readable on a PC too. I'm not quite sure how to explain to him that it's a constraint of the PC and that it's not that the disc Master is faulty. It just seems like a really weird limitation of the PC.

 

In the various attempts of reburning the disc, each time I'm able to see the CD text in Toast. In fact, I was able to starting with the original customer supplied master - albeit it took a minute for that text to populate, which must have been iTunes searching the CDDB (iTunes launches automatically on audio disc insert).

 

Thanks for all your help.

[Larry]

Hi (neighbor)!

 

So effectively, there is NO way for a PC user to be able to insert this disc into their computer and see the album and track titles? I just popped the CD into a PC and opened it up in Windows Media Player (I'm a total Mac user, so I have NO idea what a "typical" music player is on a PC), where of course there is no cd text info. My customer is insistent that the CD text info be readable on a PC too. I'm not quite sure how to explain to him that it's a constraint of the PC and that it's not that the disc Master is faulty. It just seems like a really weird limitation of the PC.

 

In the various attempts of reburning the disc, each time I'm able to see the CD text in Toast. In fact, I was able to starting with the original customer supplied master - albeit it took a minute for that text to populate, which must have been iTunes searching the CDDB (iTunes launches automatically on audio disc insert).

 

Thanks for all your help.

 

Windows Media Player does not support CD texxt. that is why you weren't seeing the info. There are plugins for it that can be added that would allow it to. Other pc software players will read the CD text. There's plenty of free ones they can install that will if they don't want to add a plugin to WMP

[griffgirl]

Well, poop. I'll explain that to my client and hope he understands.

 

I did notice that WMP did ask if I wanted to retrieve the track info from the internet? I guess once again that goes back to the CDDB, like with iTunes.

 

Thanks again to you both for your help with this.

[tsantee]

CD Text typically is not read by computers. Computers only see the audio tracks and not the separate file with the CD Text info. You already know the CD Text info is there because your car stereo can read it. If you drag the audio tracks from the CD back into Toast it should read the CD Text when loading those tracks. You also can see the CD Text information by choosing Disc Info in Toast's Recorder menu.

 

When you insert an audio CD in a Mac for the first time the OS automatically searches the online CDDB for something that matches the number of tracks and track length of the audio CD. If a match is found the info is downloaded to the Mac's cdinfo database file and appears as if the info was being read from the disc (which it isn't). The cdinfo database file can only be edited within iTunes. That's where you manually enter info on a disc that is not recognized by CDDB. You also can upload info to CDDB. This can be done in Toast or iTunes. If done in Toast you must first eject and reinsert the burned audio CD in order for the upload option to become active.

 

There is a CD Text to cdinfo applescript at dougscripts.com for automating the transfer of CD Text to the cdinfo database file via iTunes.