its broken DA#$%^!

[cpanon]

Hello

When will roxio admit that 8.05 is broken and does not write the tag and track labels. This worked perfectly in ver 5 & 6; I have the audio cd AND the mp3 that prove it. I have done everything suggested, uninstall all version, run roxizap(2), reinstall, upgrade, make sure CD-test is toggles. With all that done IT DOES NOT WRITE TAG AND TRACK LABELS. Yes I know that persiflage of WMA player, but why do the previously versions written with 5&6 work fine. Unless I am still doing something wrong and/or there is some untried suggestion, I will stop using and recommending roxio. Also they dont respond cognitively to that web ticket and stupid pedantic Ask Roxann is utterly useless. Sorry I am exasperated beyond patience.

[d_deweywright]

Hello

When will roxio admit that 8.05 is broken and does not write the tag and track labels. This worked perfectly in ver 5 & 6; I have the audio cd AND the mp3 that prove it. I have done everything suggested, uninstall all version, run roxizap(2), reinstall, upgrade, make sure CD-test is toggles. With all that done IT DOES NOT WRITE TAG AND TRACK LABELS. Yes I know that persiflage of WMA player, but why do the previously versions written with 5&6 work fine. Unless I am still doing something wrong and/or there is some untried suggestion, I will stop using and recommending roxio. Also they dont respond cognitively to that web ticket and stupid pedantic Ask Roxann is utterly useless. Sorry I am exasperated beyond patience.

Umm... okay. Are we to assume that you're trying to write an Audio CD from .MP3 files and expecting all of the Tag data from the .MP3 file to show up in the CD-Text? You see, since you haven't said exactly what you're doing, we don't know what your railing about. And if you're trying to do this in EMC 8 "Data", where you've posted, then my guess about what you're trying to do is a pretty big stretch.

 

If you're just writing .MP3 files to a Data CD, then there should be no problem with the Tag data accompanying the files.

 

So, take a deep breath now that you've vented some frustration, and clearly and explicitely tell us exactly what kind of disc you're trying to create, what the source is, and how you're attempting to do it, and what expected results you're not getting. The crystal ball is in the shop being shined.

[cpanon]

Hello

Okay here is the explicit process.

1. Create a new Sound Editor Project (spe).

2. Add a *.wav file

3. Drop some tracks (just press "t")

4. Save spe with all defaults

5. Right click on the clip, click on Clip Properties

6. Click Edit Tags

7. Add tag information.

8. Observe that the tag Title is replicated as the name of each Track.

9. Click Burn Audio CD

10. Select CD-Text

11. Burn the CD

12. Observe that the CD has NONE of the tag information AND all the tracks are labeled Trackxx.

 

The same problem of no tag or track labels appearing in the MP3 output.

 

Again I stress both of these production failures were NOT present in the ver 5 & 6. As stated this is a clean install, with the 805 build.

[d_deweywright]

Hello

Okay here is the explicit process.

1. Create a new Sound Editor Project (spe).

2. Add a *.wav file

3. Drop some tracks (just press "t")

4. Save spe with all defaults

5. Right click on the clip, click on Clip Properties

6. Click Edit Tags

7. Add tag information.

8. Observe that the tag Title is replicated as the name of each Track.

9. Click Burn Audio CD

10. Select CD-Text

11. Burn the CD

12. Observe that the CD has NONE of the tag information AND all the tracks are labeled Trackxx.

 

The same problem of no tag or track labels appearing in the MP3 output.

 

Again I stress both of these production failures were NOT present in the ver 5 & 6. As stated this is a clean install, with the 805 build.

Okay... I've never tried to burn a CD from Sound Editor. I do all my burning from within Music Disc Creator. I use Sound Editor as a sound editor, and save my burning for the burning part of the application. They do behave differently, and I believe I've heard others complain of the same problem.

 

After you're done editing your sound clips, export them to .WAV files (or .MP3 if you prefer, I prefer the lossless .WAV format) and then add those into your Music Disc Creator project. Edit the tag info as appropriate, and burn your CD from there. See if that doesn't help.

[grandpabruce]

Okay... I've never tried to burn a CD from Sound Editor. I do all my burning from within Music Disc Creator. I use Sound Editor as a sound editor, and save my burning for the burning part of the application. They do behave differently, and I believe I've heard others complain of the same problem.

 

After you're done editing your sound clips, export them to .WAV files (or .MP3 if you prefer, I prefer the lossless .WAV format) and then add those into your Music Disc Creator project. Edit the tag info as appropriate, and burn your CD from there. See if that doesn't help.

 

I love using Sound Editor, but the last thing that I would use it for is burning a CD. You are spot on with what you are saying.

[ggrussell]

12. Observe that the CD has NONE of the tag information AND all the tracks are labeled Trackxx.

What are you using to determine this? Windows Explorer and Windows Media Player DO NOT READ CDTEXT.

 

The easiest way to determine if CD TEXT was written is to pull up Roxio Label Creator and use the Content smart object.

[cpanon]

Hello

Thank you for the response. However I dont mean to be obtuse or obstinate, however how do commercial CD write CD-Text and it shows up in IE and Windows Media Player. I just dropped a cd in and from the file system it shows TrackXX, however within Window Media Player it show all the labeled tracks and the tag information. Also this was indeed working in an earlier version of Roxio, as I have the CD that I produced and they show the track labels and the tag information in IE and WMP. I just want to recover that writing ability and player readable, that was there and is in the commercial cisks. Ideas? tia.

[d_deweywright]

Hello

Thank you for the response. However I dont mean to be obtuse or obstinate, however how do commercial CD write CD-Text and it shows up in IE and Windows Media Player. I just dropped a cd in and from the file system it shows TrackXX, however within Window Media Player it show all the labeled tracks and the tag information. Also this was indeed working in an earlier version of Roxio, as I have the CD that I produced and they show the track labels and the tag information in IE and WMP. I just want to recover that writing ability and player readable, that was there and is in the commercial cisks. Ideas? tia.

They don't, but since it is a commercial and "popular" disc, that information gets put into the on-line databases like Gracenote, which is where WMP goes to look for the information. In fact if you submitted the data for your custom CD to Gracenote, it would showup in WMP as well, but I honestly don't know if Gracenote would let everybody and his brother submit the information for their own custom CDs. If you took a new, commercially pressed disc, unplugged your PC from the internet, and inserted the disc into your drive, WMP would show: Track 01, Track 02, .... etc. (assuming you'd never played that disc in your PC before).

 

Hope that helps!

[cpanon]

They don't, but since it is a commercial and "popular" disc, that information gets put into the on-line databases like Gracenote, which is where WMP goes to look for the information. In fact if you submitted the data for your custom CD to Gracenote, it would showup in WMP as well, but I honestly don't know if Gracenote would let everybody and his brother submit the information for their own custom CDs. If you took a new, commercially pressed disc, unplugged your PC from the internet, and inserted the disc into your drive, WMP would show: Track 01, Track 02, .... etc. (assuming you'd never played that disc in your PC before).

 

Hope that helps!

 

Hi

Thanks d_. That was very complete. However, I am feeling delusional, what Roxio product/version did I use in 2005 that created a CD and an MP3 with the title of "Chrismation and Baptism" for a recorded lecture with a Dr. I guarantee you that is not on Gracenote. If I could only answer how that was indeed, empirically accomplished as the useable disk are incontrovertible proof, then I would understand all, grin.

 

I cant believe it, but could it be the CD-drive. I have recently used only Sony CD/DVD drives. I dimly(yes comments) remember the original disks were made with TDK CD/R. I also wear the color brown exclusively on M, T,W...

 

They don't, but since it is a commercial and "popular" disc, that information gets put into the on-line databases like Gracenote, which is where WMP goes to look for the information. In fact if you submitted the data for your custom CD to Gracenote, it would showup in WMP as well, but I honestly don't know if Gracenote would let everybody and his brother submit the information for their own custom CDs. If you took a new, commercially pressed disc, unplugged your PC from the internet, and inserted the disc into your drive, WMP would show: Track 01, Track 02, .... etc. (assuming you'd never played that disc in your PC before).

 

Hope that helps!

 

Hi

Thanks d_. That was very complete. However, I am feeling delusional, what Roxio product/version did I use in 2005 that created a CD and an MP3 with the title of "Chrismation and Baptism" for a recorded lecture with a Dr. I guarantee you that is not on Gracenote. If I could only answer how that was indeed, empirically accomplished as the useable disk are incontrovertible proof, then I would understand all, grin.

 

I cant believe it, but could it be the CD-drive. I have recently used only Sony CD/DVD drives. I dimly(yes comments) remember the original disks were made with TDK CD/R. I also wear the color brown exclusively on M, T,W...

[d_deweywright]

Hi

Thanks d_. That was very complete. However, I am feeling delusional, what Roxio product/version did I use in 2005 that created a CD and an MP3 with the title of "Chrismation and Baptism" for a recorded lecture with a Dr. I guarantee you that is not on Gracenote. If I could only answer how that was indeed, empirically accomplished as the useable disk are incontrovertible proof, then I would understand all, grin.

 

I cant believe it, but could it be the CD-drive. I have recently used only Sony CD/DVD drives. I dimly(yes comments) remember the original disks were made with TDK CD/R. I also wear the color brown exclusively on M, T,W...

Well, the questions I would have for that are:

 

1) "...a CD and an MP3"? Maybe this was a Data CD with an MP3 file on it? In which case, of course the title of the .MP3 or the Tag information would be displayed. So, was that disc an Audio CD or an MP3 CD?

 

2) If the disc in question was an Audio CD, some standalone players do display CD-Text, some don't. Some standalone players also play .MP3 CDs, and would also likely display Tag information.

 

As for your habits, some have also found sacrificial chickens offered before or during the burn of their CDs to be of benefit.

[ggrussell]

Thank you for the response. However I dont mean to be obtuse or obstinate, however how do commercial CD write CD-Text and it shows up in IE

As far as I know, Internet Explorer does not play or read audio CDs. Even the standard Windows Explorer does NOT show track information. All you will get is track#.cda.

 

As for Windows Media Player, like Dave posted, gets thta info from the INTERNET - not from the disc. Yes, some commercial disc do have CD TEXT. Some don't. Some players read it. Some don't. CD TEXT just is not a wide spread standard.

 

You're best bet is to stick with MP3 files if possible. Most CD Players that support MP3 will also support ID TAGs -- or at least most of the ID TAGS. On three of the DVD players in my house which all support MP3, they all will show the artist and title, but only one will show more than that like genre and year.

 

As for the disc that you burned before, nothing has changed. CD TEXT is still written just like it has been for years.