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I just came back from purchasing Easy CD & DVD with the Windows 7 logo on it. I installed it, and checked for updates (it found none) and then proceeded to open a previous Creator Classic *.rcl project file.

 

The file opened (although it took probably 20 times longer to stop showing the hour glass cursor symbol before I could use the Creator Classic dialog) but when I went to the File menu looking for the Validate option, I found it missing! Why would the Roxio programmers do something stupid and remove a useful function from a prior version? Don't these people ever use their own software in a real world? In any case, I later discovered that when you click the BURN button and commit to a burn, CC10 THEN attempts to validate the project (again, this is stupid, and should be something that can be performed before committing to a burn). In any case, all of this is minor nit-picking compared to the next shock. About 30% of the files in the project were discovered "not to be found" by EZCD&DVD CC10.

 

Not to be found?! The files in question are plain as day on the hard drive, exactly where they were before I upgraded to Windows 7. The files are on drive D, in the same folders, with the same file names they had. I had a drive D before the new PC upgrade, and after the upgrade the same drive D existed (a second hard drive) with the very same folder/file structure. I mirror the new 2nd hard drive from the old hard drive. So I knew the CC10 software message was totally bogus and flawed.

 

In investigating further, Roxio Easy CD & DVD Creator Classic 10 has a very serious bug, in that, many of the files that were shown as files on the old PC (using the very same *.RCL file) are showing up as FOLDERS (not files) using Create Classic 10! And then for the files that the burn process said it could not find...when I highlight those files in the CC10 interface (the bottom pane) and right mouse click > Properties, you can see the CC10 is royally screwed up. The path for these "not to be found files" in my *.RCL project are screwed up. What was d:\path1 in the original RCL file on the old PC shows up as d:\path4 when the RCL file is opened in CC10 on the new PC. One 'cannot be found' file's "From" properties shows the "From" path for one of the other "cannot be found" files and vice versa. No wonder the burn process can't find so many files... the "From" paths are mixed up and scrambled between all the "cannot be found" files. Yet if I go to my old XP PC, running CC6.2, and highlight one of the supposed "missing files" and right mouse click > Properties on it, I see the correct "From" path listed.

 

So in short, CC10 screws up the "From" paths on about 30% of the files in a RCL project file created with CC6.2.

 

Is this a known bug?

 

I have little faith that Roxio cares or has a solution.

 

 

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Brookstone,

As I told you above after testing them myself, Creator Classic in both Creator 2010 and in Easy CD and DVD Burning 9.0.554 is quite happy to use RCL files from version 6.2

 

What version of what software do you have? Have Roxio published another version of Easy CD and DVD Burning?

 

Would you go to the Help button in the Home application, and look for "About This Software" and tell us what Name, Version Number, and Build are displayed, please. [Don't give the serial number.]

 

Where did you buy this software? [Hoping it was direct from Roxio since they have a decent return policy]

 

I've left you a private message. Please click on the 'New Messages' area under the blue bar at the top of this page to receive it.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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As I told you above after testing them myself, Creator Classic in both Creator 2010 and in Easy CD and DVD Burning 9.0.554 is quite happy to use RCL files from version 6.2

 

Brendon,

 

I cannot testify for version 9.0x... All I can tell you is that version 10 which comes in a box bearing a Windows 7 compatibility logo, is getting all confused with v 6.2's RCL files. I can only assume that the RCL file has changed since v 6.2, or else version 10 (perhaps even version 9) has a serious bug in restoring the "From" paths in the RCL files.

 

What version of what software do you have? Have Roxio published another version of Easy CD and DVD Burning?

 

The Help > About window shows 101B04A ENU

 

The executable in memory shows Creator10.exe

 

Where did you buy this software? [Hoping it was direct from Roxio since they have a decent return policy]

 

I bought it from BestBuy...walk-in, on the shelf. Labeled $29.99 but rung up at the register at $14.99. I asked the clerk if they made a mistake, but they said no. What comes on the DVD is beyond what I purchased 5+ years ago from Adaptec, when the software was closer to $100.

 

 

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Okay,

 

It looks as if Roxio have taken an Easy Media Creator version 10.1 and somehow updated parts to make it compatible with Windows 7, and called it Easy CD and DVD Burning. If so, this is the third version they've given this name to. Talk about opening Pandora's box again . . . .

 

I guess it will have large pieces disabled like the other two versions, but we'll find out which bits as time goes on.

 

This part of this topic will be shifted to the Easy CD and DVD Burning forum later if it can be snipped neatly, however for the moment it's probably better to carry on here.

 

 

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Meanwhile, I'm working on a machine with 10.0 installed, and it ran that 6.2 project file and burned things happily to a CD. It is a simple directory tree though.

 

Were the paths which showed up broken on yours, long or complicated paths??

 

I'll clean install version 10.1 and use it for testing from here on, since your software seems to be a cut-down 10.1 - I'll also make and test some 6.2 RCLs with complicated paths if you need me to.

 

 

 

10.0 still has the Validate ability if you go to Files > Project Settings in Creator Classic. They should be in the same place for version 10.1

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10.0 still has the Validate ability if you go to Files > Project Settings in Creator Classic. They should be in the same place for version 10.1

 

Brendon,

 

Yes, I understand this, and I confirm that "Validation" is available under Project Options. My complaint about this is that it should be on the "File" menu, like it was with v 6.2, which allowed me to validate a project at any time, without having to click the BURN button...which is what v 10 does. V 10 requires you to start a BURN before a validation takes place. I want to validate a project regardless of whether I burn a CD or not...which only makes sense, which proves that Roxio/Sonic programmers don't have much sense, since they removed something much more useful and replace it with something less useful.

 

 

 

 

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I’ll take a walk through Best Buy tomorrow and see what this is…

 

There's no guarantee that your BestBuy has the Win7 version. I know that the Staples Office supply store right next to the BestBuy where I bought this was selling the Vista/XP version (no Win7 logo).

 

You do understand that an RCL file contains nothing that can be burned, but only a few notes on what to burn the settings???

 

Yes, I understand the RCL points to the path of the original file(s), along with the new name (if any) of the "to be" burned file(s).

 

 

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OK I found an bought one at Best Buy ($15.00) :D

 

PUt it on my Win7 PC and created a EMC 6, Creator Classic RCL file on one of my old PC's.

 

I load the the RCL as well as the file that I used in that project into a Thumb drive and took it to my Win7 PC.

 

It loaded and burned without a complaint!

 

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So we know it works, now we need to figure out where yours is breaking down...

 

The one 'consistant thing I did was create a Copy1 directory on the EMC 6 PC.

 

I then copied it to the Thumb drive.

 

When I opened Creator Classic on the Win7 PC, I opened the RCL file by navigating to the Thumb drive.

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OK I found an bought one at Best Buy ($15.00)

 

Was it labeled as "$29.99"?

 

So we know it works, now we need to figure out where yours is breaking down...

 

You can see from the screen snapshot below how Easy CD & DVD v 10 is royally broken:

 

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In addition to all of the previous bugs, here are even more...

 

1) The Sonic programmers don't have enough sense to save the Easy CD & DVD Burning (version 10) window size, window position, or maximized state. I have to resize the window every time I launch EZCD/DVD Burning v 10.

 

2) If I open a RCL file from Creator Classic version 6.2, then immediately click FILE > SAVE PROJECT from within Easy CD & DVD Burning v 10, then exit, then try to open the very same RCL file in Easy CD & DVD Burning v 10, I get "There was an error opening the file". This happens for every single V 6.2 RCL file that I open and immediately click "FILE > SAVE PROJECT" for. No exceptions. v 6.2 RCL file after RCL file gets corrupted by simply opening it and clicking FILE > SAVE PROJECT.

 

3) On some of the RCL files I open, the software window displays a spinning "Please wait" cursor, and the app title shows "Not responding". 30 seconds can go by before Easy CD & DVD Burning v 10 frees itself.

 

4) RCL files are getting saved/modified without ever prompting me. I suspect when I burn a CD, and the validation process is complete, that the program is auto-saving the RCL file without my permission.

 

5) Surprisingly I can open the same RCL file 6 times, and half the time you see the screwed up "From" properties and the "folder" icons on actual EXE/HTML file, while the other half of the time the "From" properties are all correct and the folder icons are no longer used to display HTML/EXE files....all loading the very same RCL file!

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Big Jim has the same version as you, Build 101B04A.ENU

It will be interesting to try and duplicate your problem with the same software.

 

All,

 

I can supply my old RCL files should you wish to try the FILE > OPEN PROJECT > FILE > SAVE PROJECT file corruption test.

 

You could even load the RCL file in v 6 and right mouse click PROPERTIES on the files and see what "From" values show up between v 6 and v 10. Just let me know how to get the files to you.

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Right, I got hold of Brookstone's .RCL files. There's definitely something strange happening in his system.

 

Firstly the 6.2 file he loaded and saved immediately was corrupted somehow, and would not load into any version of Creator Classic after that. I verified that, and could never get that file to load with any version of Creator Classic. The file was quite broken.

 

Secondly, sometimes some of the files mentioned in his 6.2 .RCL were assigned folder icons in his Creator Classic, and their source path [where the files were stored on his machine] was lost. He shows this in his screen clips.

 

While waiting for the new RedBox Easy CD and DVD Burning v10.3.104 to arrive, I tried Brookstone's .RCL files in Creator Classic from EMC 10 running in Vista, and from Creator 2010 Pro running in Windows 7. They worked fine, and I couldn't get them to misbehave.

 

When Easy CD and DVD Burning v10.3.104 arrived I tried Brookstone's files with some I made myself in version 6.2 and also EMC 8. Apart from that broken file, they all worked fine. They could also be loaded into Creator Classic, saved, and then reloaded again. Earlier version .RCLs can be loaded into the current Creator Classic, but its saved .RCL files are not backward compatible with versions 6 and 8.

 

I'm at a loss to explain why Brookstone is having trouble that we can't reproduce, but I don't think it's the software. His system was brand new, 2 weeks old, with a virgin install of Windows 7. If files sometimes change in memory and sometimes don't, I wonder if he has a RAM timing problem between his new motherboard and the RAM that has been used ?

 

That's the progress to date. I'm posting this and hoping Brookstone will let us know if he finds a cause/solution.

 

 

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