Who likes Version 8?

[mantis4]

Okay. Today was a rainy day and we spent quite a bit of time reviewing the differences between versions 7.5, 8 Suite, and 8 Deluxe. We have all three!

 

We have come to the conclusion that other than a higher quality import of VHS and analog Camcorder files (yes, Dazzle does work and the video quality is fine), we cannot see ANY advantage over 7.5.

 

It appears that Roxio added a few more transitions (like who needs that many anyway) and some Photo Suite extras but took away some very good features from 7.5 (like color picking overlays) with version 8 Suite. They neglected to inform us that productions created in 7.5 were not upward compatible with version 8. I am in the computer business and I have NEVER had an upgrade installed that was not compatible with previous versions. And if features are removed, we NOTIFY potential users that this is the case.

 

Roxio marketed version 8 Suite as an enhancement to 7.5. To those of us who were suckered in, we soon realized that 8 Suite gave you a few bells and whistles but NOTHING over 7.5. Then Roxio comes out with the Deluxe version, which includes SOME things that were taken away with 7.5, and they have the audacity to call it a Deluxe version!. We seriously feel we were ripped off by Roxio.

 

If ANYONE can list advantages of 8 (Suite or Deluxe) over 7.5 please have a go at it and we will aplogize and retract our statements.

 

In the meantime, we hope Roxio is reading this email and maybe THEY can respond as to why ANYONE should fork over an extra $50 to $100 bucks for version 8 (Suite or Deluxe).

 

[ggrussell]

Easy... HD video editing. Editing 16:9. Combining 16:9 and 4:3 in one project which NO OTHER PRODUCT on the market will do as easily as Videowave 8. People have different tastes so more transitions is a good thing. I happen to like the new UI much better, but I suppose that's a personal opinion.

 

You are also concentrating your focus on only two parts of the SUITE. How about DVD MUSIC? JPEG file sharing over the net in Media Manager.

 

I'll agree that they shouldn't have removed some 'features' only to add them back in the Deluxe version. Personally, I feel that EMC 8 Deluxe is well worth the MSRP $149 and then some. You get the Pinnacle Dazzle device, the entire suite plus the two DVD Menu Style packs they sell separately.

[Merv]

Okay. Today was a rainy day and we spent quite a bit of time reviewing the differences between versions 7.5, 8 Suite, and 8 Deluxe. We have all three!

 

We have come to the conclusion that other than a higher quality import of VHS and analog Camcorder files (yes, Dazzle does work and the video quality is fine), we cannot see ANY advantage over 7.5.

 

It appears that Roxio added a few more transitions (like who needs that many anyway) and some Photo Suite extras but took away some very good features from 7.5 (like color picking overlays) with version 8 Suite. They neglected to inform us that productions created in 7.5 were not upward compatible with version 8. I am in the computer business and I have NEVER had an upgrade installed that was not compatible with previous versions. And if features are removed, we NOTIFY potential users that this is the case.

 

Roxio marketed version 8 Suite as an enhancement to 7.5. To those of us who were suckered in, we soon realized that 8 Suite gave you a few bells and whistles but NOTHING over 7.5. Then Roxio comes out with the Deluxe version, which includes SOME things that were taken away with 7.5, and they have the audacity to call it a Deluxe version!. We seriously feel we were ripped off by Roxio.

 

If ANYONE can list advantages of 8 (Suite or Deluxe) over 7.5 please have a go at it and we will aplogize and retract our statements.

 

In the meantime, we hope Roxio is reading this email and maybe THEY can respond as to why ANYONE should fork over an extra $50 to $100 bucks for version 8 (Suite or Deluxe).

 

 

 

I, for one, am not a salesperson nor do I work for Roxio/Sonic. I do not feel the need to justify to you that what you have purchased is worth the money. You have previous versions of EMC so you can judge for yourself. Should you determine that the upgrade was not worth the money, contact Roxio.

[Beerman]

I have to agree with Gary that 8 is a very good product. Yes, 7.5 has given me a little better final DVD project quality but I like the 16:9 support and the extra tweaking power of MyDVD and Videowave. However, if it's worth the extra money for those who have 7.5.....that's a personal opinion based upon your own experiences and needs.

[Patty]

I agree with Paul, I definately think it is worth having. I have 7.5 & 8 and use them both in different ways. I found a long time ago you never get everything you want it one application, I use an assortment, but I always put every project together in Roxio and burn it there.

[ladutton]

I agree with Paul, I definately think it is worth having. I have 7.5 & 8 and use them both in different ways. I found a long time ago you never get everything you want it one application, I use an assortment, but I always put every project together in Roxio and burn it there.

 

 

That assumes that Roxio will actually let you burn what you just put together. I have now spent the better part of a week trying -- unsuccessfully -- to figure out why 8 will not burn a very small project that uses .mov video clips (and yes, I have Quicktime).

 

I had 7 with all it's problems. Then 7.5 Now, I hoped that 8 would iron out previous problems.

 

Since I have a brand new Dell XPS 690, the technology should be able to handle it all.

 

I just get fed up with all the fussing with these programs. You'd think that by version 8.0 they'd have it nailed.

[sknis]

Quicktime in V-8 VW and MYDVD works for some people; not for others. I'm one of the people where the video works OK but the sound does not. Quicktime plays the file for me with no problems. I have another old video editing program on my computer that will take the video and audio correctly and out put a compliant mpg2 (or avi) file. What is the source of your mov files? Mine are from a digital camera and I have yet to find out why the audio format doesn't work. I have used several audio conversion programs and only that one video program does it correctly. You may have to look for a program that will do the conversion.

 

That assumes that Roxio will actually let you burn what you just put together. I have now spent the better part of a week trying -- unsuccessfully -- to figure out why 8 will not burn a very small project that uses .mov video clips (and yes, I have Quicktime).I had 7 with all it's problems. Then 7.5 Now, I hoped that 8 would iron out previous problems.Since I have a brand new Dell XPS 690, the technology should be able to handle it all.

I just get fed up with all the fussing with these programs. You'd think that by version 8.0 they'd have it nailed.

[REDWAGON]

I have versions 7 and 7.5, both updated and find both of them to be excellent. I do not have the version 8 (YET), but probably will sooner or later. Not having EMC8, I would still like to give an opinion of buying any kind of software. First, one should do a good deal of looking around for a program that does do what you want it to do, before you buy. Everyone has a little something different that they really want in a software program. I am no different. For one thing, If you have EMC 7 or 7.5 and it is doing what you want it to and you are having no problems, then in my opinion, stay with it.

 

However, if you are wanting to do something that is not available in those versions, then check out carefully to see if an upgrade will do what you want. If it does then you just have to make up mind if the cost is worth it . AND---One way to find out what the EMC8 will do is by joining this forum group and start asking questions. You will find out very soon what you want to know. And BTW, I don't work for Roxio/Sonic either. I am just one very satisfied EMC user that has had some extremely good help from these forums to get the software to do some really remarkable DVD and Audio productions !!!

 

Cheers

Frank......

[mantis4]

Okay guys. Thanks for the input. We do see some things that are better in version 8. For those people that are considering upgrading we would suggest going straight to the Deluxe version and bypass Suite altogether.

 

Our frustration is that Roxio touted and flouted version 8 Suite and we purchased it not knowing the Deluxe version would soon follow. That's just wrong.

 

Anyway, we reinstalled version 7.5 and now have the best of both available.