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Choppy video capture from VCR

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Just picked up Creator 2010 with a video capture USB. OS is Windows 7 64-bit. USB capture card installed fine and appears in the Device Manager (see image below). I am getting consistent sound from the VCR and some video, but the video is extremely choppy. It is not usable at all the way it is...

 

Any advice would be appreciated!

 

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Videowave has some Production Settings that you might want to look at but that is after the fact. Perhaps one of the GURUs will chime in with a solution.

Well, I fear I may muddy the waters here, but here goes...

 

What file type are you capturing to, .AVI or .MPG? (Please answer this, it's important.) At this point, I would suggest going for .MPG format and let the capture device do the hardware conversion and keep the USB bandwidth down. It appears I may be mistaken and that the USB device may not be doing the conversion to MPG, but knowing what format you're capturing to is still important.

 

If you're already capturing to .MPG, then I would ask, can you play a DVD on your laptop? And how does it look? Smooth or choppy? In my mind, even with a low-end video chip, the capture should be fine since that's only dependent on the USB/HD throughput. I believe the encoding is done in the capture device. (Even if the preview appears choppy.) Which brings up the next question, when you say it's choppy, are you referring to the preview as you're capturing, or playback after capturing. (In which case, we need to know about playback of a DVD on your PC.)

 

So, the next thing you might try would be to get a powered USB 2.0 hub on the off chance that your USB port is only providing marginal power to the capture device, which might be causing the capture device to have problems.

 

There's actually quite a bit there to try out and to respond to, so let us know.

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Just for kicks, I hooked up another DVD player (with a different composite red/white audio cable and s-video) to see what kind of signal I could get off of a commercial DVD and the video/sound feed is just as poor: very choppy and unusable for editing or anything else.

 

I need more help with this!

 

 

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How many posts will it take to find out YOUR definition of a "unusable signal"??

 

No need to get snippy - unless it's for highjacking Daffodils thread!

 

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...st&p=308197

 

Reference thread above. Unusable = laggy video and sound. And it's not a little laggy: I get about 80% of the sound and about 30% of the video.

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No need to get snippy - unless it's for highjacking Daffodils thread!

 

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...st&p=308197

 

Reference thread above. Unusable = laggy video and sound. And it's not a little laggy: I get about 80% of the sound and about 30% of the video.

 

 

Who's "highjacking Daffodils thread"?

 

Are you now posting your problems?

 

Notebook, ATI Radeon HD 3200, is an onboard (shared Memory) graphics chip (on the RS780M chipset)..

 

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Who's "highjacking Daffodils thread"?

 

I did

 

Are you now posting your problems?

 

Yes

 

 

Notebook, ATI Radeon HD 3200, is an onboard (shared Memory) graphics chip (on the RS780M chipset)..

 

Yes... do you think this is a problem? Would that impact sound quality, too?

 

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I did

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

 

Yes... do you think this is a problem? Would that impact sound quality, too?

 

What is your capture setting? Have you tried short captures?

 

Your capturing from the VHS tape, you need horse power to keep up...

 

I don't understand all the folks that buy a notebook/laptop and try to do video work on them? :wacko:

 

IMO, it's like buying a Volkswagen to pull a 18' cargo trailer... :rolleyes:

 

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What is your capture setting? Have you tried short captures?

 

I have tried all of the settings with similar results - which one is the least demanding? The capture itself seems to work OK - in other words, what the system captured is what it saw. When I am in the "Video Capture" Roxio Media Import window, the feed I see (before hitting "capture") is very laggy.

 

I understand that this is not an optimal video system - it was never intended to be. I purchased the Roxio software after checking the hardware requirements on the box and not seeing anything that this system should not have been able to handle.

 

If it is not possible for my system to capture the VHS signal, then I need to know that so that I can return the software.

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I have tried all of the settings with similar results - which one is the least demanding? The capture itself seems to work OK - in other words, what the system captured is what it saw. When I am in the "Video Capture" Roxio Media Import window, the feed I see (before hitting "capture") is very laggy.

 

I understand that this is not an optimal video system - it was never intended to be. I purchased the Roxio software after checking the hardware requirements on the box and not seeing anything that this system should not have been able to handle.

 

If it is not possible for my system to capture the VHS signal, then I need to know that so that I can return the software.

 

 

If you watch the VHS tapes on the VHS player connected to the TV is there this " laggy." business?

 

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I went and updated all the drivers I could think of - the video card, the USB drivers, sound. I tried Debut this morning and got the same results until I dropped the settings to something like 16 fps. I am guessing horsepower is the problem.

 

Unless there is a way to drop the frame rate down in Creator, I am guessing I am out of luck.

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Bought - yes - paid for, even! but receipts will be hard to come by as they were purchased a l-o-n-g freakin' time ago...

 

Macrovision - there are no indicators on or around any of the tapes that lead me to believe that anyone would ever have used the word "macrovision" to describe them - so...

 

bought = "yes" but I am not sure this is what you are asking. If you are asking if they contain commercially produced content, the answer is "no".

 

macrovision = "no"

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Bought - yes - paid for, even! but receipts will be hard to come by as they were purchased a l-o-n-g freakin' time ago...

 

Macrovision - there are no indicators on or around any of the tapes that lead me to believe that anyone would ever have used the word "macrovision" to describe them - so...

 

bought = "yes" but I am not sure this is what you are asking. If you are asking if they contain commercially produced content, the answer is "no".

 

macrovision = "no"

 

 

Now, your talking like a lawyer to me..

 

but receipts will be hard to come by as they were purchased a l-o-n-g freakin' time ago

 

If the tapes are bought, commercially produced, they probably have macrovision..

 

Google for a definition..

 

Are you understanding what I'm asking now?

 

If not I'm done here...

 

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That driver isn't signed and is non-functional atm. Haven't bothered with it yet.

 

The article is good - I tried some of it, but not the reprioritization and shutting down of all startup services. I will give it a shot - thanks!

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If you are asking if they contain commercially produced content, the answer is "no".

 

OK - no commercially produced content, no macrovision - they were plain blank VHS video tapes.

 

After trying the suggestions contained in the article referred to earlier:

 

1. Confirm minimum system requirements met (I thought so based on what I read on the box)

2. Update Roxio (SP1, in this case)

3. Update drivers (USB 2.0, video, audio, etc.)

4. Disabling all startup processes

5. Switching to hardware rendering

6. Adjusting hardware acceleration (not an option with my video "card")

7. Maximizing priority of relevant Roxio application

 

... I am still where I started.

 

The only success I have had getting an "un-choppy" video/audio feed has been to use Debut freeware and turning the resolution down. I was not successful at finding a Creator resolution-reducting alternative.

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Thanks, Big_Dave - I have installed SP1. To clarify, the problem I am having is not an issue with burning DVD's. Video is being captured and is modifiable, but the video is very poor - picture quality is OK, but the video comes through very laggy. It grabs intermittent bits of video - maybe 1-2 seconds of video that freezes for 4-5 seconds. Audio is playing 100% and does not lag.

 

Thanks very much for taking the time to respond!

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