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Hi everyone,

 

I've run into some issues trying to create DVDs using AVCHD video files. The files in question are mts/m2ts file from a Panasonic Lumix camera that uses the AVCHD-Lite codec. File specs are: 1280x720 @ 59.94 fps (uses two "frames" for each image). The rate varies a bit but is usually a bit under 15000 Kbps.

 

Initially, I did a test to see how the HD video would be rendered. I created an AVCHD DVD to test out on my Blu-ray player. When adding movies to MyDVD that consisted of either a single mts/m2ts file or a VW project consisting of a single mts/m2ts file, MyDVD would not perform any rendering/encoding and write (SmartEncode) the video clips directly to the DVD. The resultant quality was outstanding.

 

However, when trying to add VW projects (or video rendered from a VW project) that contains anything other than a single mts/m2ts file (such as two mts/m2ts files or mts/m2ts files and jpgs), MyDVD will always re-render/encode the project/video. This yields a significant quality degradation and results in video that is jerky and does not play back smoothly. SmartEncode is selected. Video card drivers are up-to-date.

 

I've tried rendering projects out to many different formats (from VW) to try to find something that MyDVD wouldn't re-render...

 

From the Export As" menu in Videowave:

-- All of the types from the "Blu-ray Authoring" menu

-- The 720p types (Blu-ray AVC EP & AVCHD 720p) from the "AVC (H.264)" menu

-- The 720p types (Blu-ray AVC EP & AVCHD 720p) from the "High Definition" menu

 

I was quite encouraged to find the "MPEG-2 High Definition 720p" option on the "High Definition" menu because it was 1280x720 @ 29.97 fps. I figured that this might be the one that would work well for this source material. Unfortunately, MyDVD still re-renders video output with this setting and the result is jerky playback. When played by itself (such as in Windows Media Player), the mpg file that this setting produces plays back smoothly. The re-rendering in MyDVD appears to be the source of the jerky playback.

 

I've tried different project settings in MyDVD as well ("Same as Original, EP, etc).

 

I had seen other posts about "jerky" video and the suggestions to use software rendering. I tested this out as well (creating an entirely new DVD using only software rendering; both in VW and MyDVD) and the result was the same, video is still "jerky" and not smooth.

 

At this point, I have two issues that I'm trying to resolve:

 

1) I would like to find a way in which I can create AVCHD/Blu-ray DVDs with movies that contain more than a single mts/m2ts file and retain the quality of the original source material (IE; don't get re-rendered in MyDVD).

 

2) All MyDVD AVCHD rendered video/projects (with the exception of single mts/m2ts files) are jerky and do not play back smoothly. My DVD appears to be where the jerkiness is getting introduced.

 

Does anyone know a way around these problems or have any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Steven

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Perhaps but please provide your computer information. The best way is to go to the My Controls at the top of this page and look to the left to edit signature/ Put in the important information regarding the computer.

 

Make sure you have recently defragged the hard drive (Auslogices defragmenter) and that you get rid of the junk files (use CCleaner)

Are you using software or hardware rendering (top menu of Video wave -tools, options). Look at where the dot is.

 

Are you encoding and burning the files at the same time? Sometimes computers can't keep up. Look at the video on making an ISO file in the Learning Center (bottom of the home page data tab). Do that except uncheck the burn to disc so you are just making the file. After the video encodes, use VLC to watch the ISO file. If it is OK, then copy the ISO to the disc. If it is still jerky, let us know,

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Perhaps but please provide your computer information. The best way is to go to the My Controls at the top of this page and look to the left to edit signature/ Put in the important information regarding the computer.

 

Make sure you have recently defragged the hard drive (Auslogices defragmenter) and that you get rid of the junk files (use CCleaner)

Are you using software or hardware rendering (top menu of Video wave -tools, options). Look at where the dot is.

 

Are you encoding and burning the files at the same time? Sometimes computers can't keep up. Look at the video on making an ISO file in the Learning Center (bottom of the home page data tab). Do that except uncheck the burn to disc so you are just making the file. After the video encodes, use VLC to watch the ISO file. If it is OK, then copy the ISO to the disc. If it is still jerky, let us know,

 

Hard drive is defragged and this was a completely clean install (per the posts on this site) when I installed it (to clean out everything from EMC8).

 

As stated in the post, have done the entire cycle with both SW and HW rendering - no difference.

 

I always "burn" to a file first and then burn the ISO to the DVD as a separate step.

 

Computer info:

-- Dell XPS M1210 with a Core 2 Duo running at 2.33GHZ

-- 2 GB of RAM

-- Windows XP SP3

-- Nvidia GeForce Go 7400 256MB

-- Hitachi 80 GB hard drive

-- TSST DVD+-RW TS-L632D

-- LITE-ON DX-20A3H-05 LS

 

Thanks,

Steven

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Computer info:

-- Dell XPS M1210 with a Core 2 Duo running at 2.33GHZ

-- 2 GB of RAM

-- Windows XP SP3

-- Nvidia GeForce Go 7400 256MB

-- Hitachi 80 GB hard drive

-- TSST DVD+-RW TS-L632D

-- LITE-ON DX-20A3H-05 LS

 

Thanks,

Steven

 

You have a video chip and not a video card. That chip is adequate for some things but maybe not your application. Since you have a small laptop, there is not much you can do.

 

Try this download and run "Any Video Converter" on the files. Convert hem to mpg2 HD or similar and then add them to Video Wave. Remember if you are making an AVCHD disc, you can get only about 35-40 minutes on a standard single sided DVD.

 

Make sure you have all of the power saving features turned off and are doing nothing else when encoding.

 

 

 

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You have a video chip and not a video card. That chip is adequate for some things but maybe not your application. Since you have a small laptop, there is not much you can do.

 

Try this download and run "Any Video Converter" on the files. Convert hem to mpg2 HD or similar and then add them to Video Wave. Remember if you are making an AVCHD disc, you can get only about 35-40 minutes on a standard single sided DVD.

 

Make sure you have all of the power saving features turned off and are doing nothing else when encoding.

 

Hi,

 

We're going down the wrong road here, let me summarize my initial post a bit and see if we can't refine the search for a solution...

 

I can create video segments (from VW) using the "MPEG-2 High Definition 720p" option on the "High Definition" menu that look decent and play smoothly in Windows Media Player. When I try to write that video to an AVCHD DVD (in MyDVD) it always get re-rendered (regardless of the quality setting or SW/HW rendering setting), which results in additional quality degradation, and yields a jerky, non-smooth playback (when watching the resultant DVD on my Blu-ray player).

 

I can also add single m2ts/mts files (or VW projects containing a single m2ts/mts file) to MyDVD and it SmartEncodes them (IE; does not re-render) and the resultant DVD looks great. However, if I try to add a VW project that contains more than one m2ts/mts file, MyDVD always re-renders (regardless of the quality setting or SW/HW rendering setting), which results in additional quality degradation, and yields a jerky, non-smooth playback (when watching the resultant DVD on my Blu-ray player).

 

The re-rendering being done in MyDVD seems to be the culprit here...

 

Thanks again,

Steven

 

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Are the original files all the same "quality" Resolution and bit rate?

 

Sorry. I don't have any m2ts or mts files available for trying. How much in terms of time are you trying to get on the AVCHD disc? Remember only about 35-40 minutes on a single sided disc. Any more will be re rendered. Are you using the HQ setting and burning to an Image file and then copying that to the disc?

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Are the original files all the same "quality" Resolution and bit rate?

 

Sorry. I don't have any m2ts or mts files available for trying. How much in terms of time are you trying to get on the AVCHD disc? Remember only about 35-40 minutes on a single sided disc. Any more will be re rendered. Are you using the HQ setting and burning to an Image file and then copying that to the disc?

 

Yes, all of the original files are the same "quality" and were created with identical camera settings. The rate varies a bit but is usually a bit under 15000 Kbps. I just did a quick test and created an HD mpg2 file and a VW project that contained multiple copies of the same m2ts/mts file. The only elements in the mpg file and VW project were three copies of the same m2ts/mts clip, in both cases, MyDVD wanted to re-render it. I'm not sure how much the VBR may be playing into all of this.

 

The discs that I'm trying to create are merely for test purposes and only contain a few minutes (total) of video. I've tried all of the settings in MyDVD but was concentrating on the "Same as Original" and "EP" settings as those would yield the same sized target (1280x720). I always render out to an ISO file and then do the burn as a separate step.

 

If you'd like, contact me and I can set some m2ts/mts files up that you can download and tinker around with.

 

Thanks,

Steven

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HD MPEG2 will ALWAYS be rendered when you choose AVCHD on DVD. Two completely different codecs. NOt sure how MPEG 2 got involved. :)

The files in question are mts/m2ts file from a Panasonic Lumix camera that uses the AVCHD-Lite codec. File specs are: 1280x720 @ 59.94 fps (uses two "frames" for each image). The rate varies a bit but is usually a bit under 15000 Kbps.
Back to square one. What are you wanting to do? Create a AVCHD disc with these files? IF you edit the files in Videowave, this may trigger a render depending on how much editing, transitions, effects you have added. in any case, those areas should definitely be re-encoded.

 

If you would like to post a sample file, we would be happy to check it out.

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HD MPEG2 will ALWAYS be rendered when you choose AVCHD on DVD. Two completely different codecs. NOt sure how MPEG 2 got involved. :)

Back to square one. What are you wanting to do? Create a AVCHD disc with these files? IF you edit the files in Videowave, this may trigger a render depending on how much editing, transitions, effects you have added. in any case, those areas should definitely be re-encoded.

 

If you would like to post a sample file, we would be happy to check it out.

 

Hi,

 

Here are some sample files:

 

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/69...208_121240.m2ts

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/69...208_121339.m2ts

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/69...208_121630.m2ts

 

I'm trying to figure out how to create an AVCHD/Blu-ray DVD without having these files get re-rendered in MyDVD. If I add a single one of them (or a VW project containing a single one of them) to an AVCHD/Blu-ray session in MyDVD, that particular "movie" will be smart-rendered (IE; not re-rendered) and the resultant video looks great. However, if I add a VW project that contains one of these files and something else (maybe a second m2ts file or jpgs or something), the entire "movie" will be re-rendered with a noticeable loss of quality and the jerkiness that I've referred to previously.

 

Thanks,

Steven

 

 

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I download the last two and then added your third one to Video Wave. It took an extrodinately long time to load. I had a nothing to show it was loaded in storyline and no view in the timeline. I clicked to output to a file to same as original and I got the Stream sign. It took a few seconds to encode. I encoded it to AVCHD and that also took a few seconds. They both looked like the original.

 

I added the second and it also took some time to load. I'm not sure what is happening. Check my signature for computer specs.

 

Once loaded, I output same as original and that took just a few seconds and looked like the original. I also output to an AVCHD file (1080). It is interesting that the first video (your third) did not have the brightness as the second (my and your second). I redid it in AVCHD 720 (again Stream) and there was a definite difference betwen that and the 1080 AVCHD. Are you seeing the brightness change?

 

I noticed that the video was 60 fps. If you select anything other than same as original, they will be rendered to 24 fps for AVCHD. Can you try filming some footage in bright sunlight at 30 or 24 fps - whatever your camcorder will do and see if you get the same performance.

 

I see no jerkyness in any of this.

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I download the last two and then added your third one to Video Wave. It took an extrodinately long time to load. I had a nothing to show it was loaded in storyline and no view in the timeline. I clicked to output to a file to same as original and I got the Stream sign. It took a few seconds to encode. I encoded it to AVCHD and that also took a few seconds. They both looked like the original.

 

I added the second and it also took some time to load. I'm not sure what is happening. Check my signature for computer specs.

 

Once loaded, I output same as original and that took just a few seconds and looked like the original. I also output to an AVCHD file (1080). It is interesting that the first video (your third) did not have the brightness as the second (my and your second). I redid it in AVCHD 720 (again Stream) and there was a definite difference betwen that and the 1080 AVCHD. Are you seeing the brightness change?

 

I noticed that the video was 60 fps. If you select anything other than same as original, they will be rendered to 24 fps for AVCHD. Can you try filming some footage in bright sunlight at 30 or 24 fps - whatever your camcorder will do and see if you get the same performance.

 

I see no jerkyness in any of this.

 

I've uploaded the various "support" files that go along with the video files that I posted previously. There are three small files that accompany each video file. I did not need them in order to load or work with these files but perhaps you do? Here is a link:

 

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/69...upportFiles.zip

 

Put those files in the same directory as the video files. Leave all of the names and extensions the same.

 

Regarding brightness, the first video was taken from a different spot and overall is a bit less "bright" than the other two. The last two have more water surface reflecting the sun.

 

My camera only does 60 fps for HD (AVCHD-Lite) although it's really 30 fps with each frame being used twice. When I use VW to "Output-> Export As" any of these files, in every format that I've tried (with one exception), the resultant video is not smooth. The one exception is: the "MPEG-2 High Definition 720p" option on the "High Definition" menu. The output of this format plays smooth, I believe it is because the frame rate of this option is 29.97 fps which is exactly half of the 59.94 fps of my video files and it's also 720p, which is a match.

 

In order to see the "smoothness" I was referring to, in the first video that I uploaded, watch the head of the woman that walks through the scene. When I keep my eyes focused on her, I can really see how the video "jerks" (with the exception of video rendered with the option that I described in the previous paragraph). I believe that this is due to frame-rate mismatches.

 

What do you get when you try to create an AVCHD/Blu-Ray DVD in MyDVD using VW projects with these m2ts files? Try one VW project that contains one m2ts file and a second VW project that contains two m2ts files. When I do this, only the first one (containing only one m2ts file) will be smart-rendered in MyDVD.

 

Thanks,

Steven

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Here is what Media Info says about your files. (see image) The Panasonic is definitely using AVC.

 

The extra files are not needed by Videowave. Which Panasonic Lumix is this so I can label the files later. THanks

 

I will play around with the files tonight and get back to you. Did you add any transitions or effects? Any editing?

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I can see the jerkiness when the woman walks by in Video wave. I don;t put much stock in that because it is just an unrendered preview. I'm sure you would not want to wait until the video is fully rendered before you could work on it. Play the file with VLC and it is smooth.

 

I'm download the first video now but it will be several days before I can burn a blu-ray disc.

 

What camcorder do you have? Mine records at 60fps but I can set it to 30fps.

 

Have to tried to crate an image file of the project and then mount it as a disc image. I'm not sure VLC will do HD and you would need CinePlayer BD or the program that came with the blu-ray burner to play it on your computer. If you do that do you see any jerkiness?

 

Note: Same thing, it takes me a long time to load that video into VideoWave. Once it is there I could do some editing if I wished.

 

I hope that someone else is trying this because loading that video file takes forever on my "fast" computer.

 

I found that the best perform ace for my CanonHV30 camcorder is to render to as close to the same resolution as the native file. For you that would be the AVCHD 720. Anything else might do more hard than good.

 

BTW, what are you defining smart rendering? Regardless of if I use one or two files, my ATI card does rendering (Stream) regardless of output - same as original or AVCHD 720.

 

I'm apparently not going to be able to offer more suggestions.

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I can see the jerkiness when the woman walks by in Video wave.
I can see a small amount of jerkiness just playing that file with WMP12 on Win7 full screen (1920x1080p). I loaded all three at once and only took about 3 seconds before VW was ready to edit. Preview is just as good as WMP. These files do not seem to do any smart rendering even if I choose 'Same as Original' output.

 

If I choose AVCHD 720p, render seems to zip right by, but I do see the preview. I haven't done much AVCHD editing so I'm not sure what the smart render should look like.

 

Just played the results of a render to AVCHD 720p output and it is indeed 'jerkier' than the original. I'll try out AVCHD to disc later. Time for dinner. :)

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Ok, so I created a AVCHD on DVD folder and played it back on Cineplayer. Quality was poor, brightness was light, and jerky. However, I played the .mts file in the BDMV folder with WMP12 and the colors were great, much better quality (jaggy edges), but still jerky.

 

I can't tell if it is smart rendering or not. All I know is that I do see the preview when it encodes.

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I can see a small amount of jerkiness just playing that file with WMP12 on Win7 full screen (1920x1080p). I loaded all three at once and only took about 3 seconds before VW was ready to edit. Preview is just as good as WMP. These files do not seem to do any smart rendering even if I choose 'Same as Original' output.

 

If I choose AVCHD 720p, render seems to zip right by, but I do see the preview. I haven't done much AVCHD editing so I'm not sure what the smart render should look like.

 

Just played the results of a render to AVCHD 720p output and it is indeed 'jerkier' than the original. I'll try out AVCHD to disc later. Time for dinner. :)

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Ok, so I created a AVCHD on DVD folder and played it back on Cineplayer. Quality was poor, brightness was light, and jerky. However, I played the .mts file in the BDMV folder with WMP12 and the colors were great, much better quality (jaggy edges), but still jerky.

 

I can't tell if it is smart rendering or not. All I know is that I do see the preview when it encodes.

 

Hi,

 

The camera is a Panasonic DMC-ZS3 Lumix.

 

In the VW projects in question, I'm using no transitions or editing of any kind. Just one (or more) m2ts files.

 

I've noticed the same thing, when using the "MPEG-2 High Definition 720p" option on the "High Definition" menu to output from VW, the "render" is very fast. This was encouraging because it seemed as if VW was basically just streaming through the source file, writing out every other frame, and not doing any encoding. And the output file from this plays very nicely on my machine in WMP. But, these files get re-rendered (and lose their quality and smoothness) in MyDVD.

 

I have a Panasonic Blu-ray player (DMP-BD60) but do not yet have a Blu-ray burner for my PC. That is why I've been doing some testing using AVCHD DVDs (my Blu-ray player will play them).

 

If I add "movies" to an AVCHD/Blu-ray DVD in MyDVD that are single m2ts files (or VW projects containing only single m2ts files), those "movies" are smart-rendered when burning (I see no preview of those movies/projects, the progress meter will just jump during the "Encoding Movies" step). The video from these smart-rendered "movies" plays beautifully on my Blu-ray player.

 

Any "movies" added that are anything other than what I stated in the previous paragraph get re-rendered and lose their quality and smoothness.

 

I'm hoping that there is some way to get the program to work as it does for regular DVDs (previously rendered mpg video in a project is smart-rendered and remains untouched, for example).

 

Thanks,

Steven

 

 

 

 

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I don't see this "jerkyness"???

 

I used the RAW clip in MyDVD as well as a second clip I did an Export As from VideoWave to mp4.

 

The Export As in VW was rendered with the SAME AS setting. The resulting mp4 shows – 1280 X 720 @ 59fps.

 

And in MyDVD I used both Software as well as Hardware Render settings, no difference.

 

Played the disc and I do not see anything beyond the young ladies halting stride which is typical of the flip flops and the heel first impact.

 

But if you look at the water, waves, and others moving, not there...

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That is a digital camera that takes video also and not a camcorder. I would expect some issues.

 

BTW, read your manual. cnet says this "Movie-specific options include size and quality, a choice of area or face detect for AF, continuous AF, color, and wind filter. The ZS3 shoots 1,280x720 30fps (720p) HD video, which gets saved in the AVCHD Lite format. " (bolding is mine)

 

I'll ask again, take some video with the camera set to 30fps and see if you have the same issue.

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That is a digital camera that takes video also and not a camcorder. I would expect some issues.

 

BTW, read your manual. cnet says this "Movie-specific options include size and quality, a choice of area or face detect for AF, continuous AF, color, and wind filter. The ZS3 shoots 1,280x720 30fps (720p) HD video, which gets saved in the AVCHD Lite format. " (bolding is mine)

 

I'll ask again, take some video with the camera set to 30fps and see if you have the same issue.

I have read the manual and I'll say it again... My camera only does 60 fps for HD (AVCHD-Lite) although it's really 30 fps with each frame being used twice - there is no way to change the fps setting for this. Here is the manual, see page 128:

 

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/DMCZS1.PDF

 

Ultimately, the real issue here is that MyDVD re-renders (and degrades) m2ts files in all but the most trivial of cases (IE; a single file). When it doesn't re-render, the quality is terrific. Perhaps this will be fixed in a Service Pack or later version...

 

 

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Ultimately, the real issue here is that MyDVD re-renders (and degrades) m2ts files in all but the most trivial of cases (IE; a single file). When it doesn't re-render, the quality is terrific. Perhaps this will be fixed in a Service Pack or later version...

You are wrong!

 

Go back and re-read my post (#16) with the tests I did using your files and VideoWave as well as MyDVD.

 

For your 'jerkiness' try setting the Render option to Software (Tool-Options-Render).

 

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You are wrong!

 

Go back and re-read my post (#16) with the tests I did using your files and VideoWave as well as MyDVD.

 

For your 'jerkiness' try setting the Render option to Software (Tool-Options-Render).

Hi,

 

I've tried creating AVCHD DVDs as you did in your post. It is true that using VW to render to "Same as Original" does yield video with a 60 fps frame rate. For me, those mp4s that VW produces (using HW or SW rendering) do play smoothly and look pretty good but do display a quality loss. Here's a sample, I notice a fairly obvious pixel "flashing" (look at the trees as the video plays) whether I play this in MM, VLC, QuickTime, etc. Do you see this as well?

 

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/69...est2-SAO-SW.mp4

 

I created a number of test AVCHD DVDs using the "Same as Original" video from VW. I used source rendered both with HW and with SW (the Graphics Test always chooses HW, BTW). I then created the DVDs using both HW and SW rendering, using the "Same as Original" setting in MyDVD. In every case, the video was re-rendered. The final output exhibits the same jerkiness (it's as if frames are missing, the motion jumps from scene-to-scene and you can tell that frames are missing). This is very noticeable watching the woman and girl walk through the first sample file that I uploaded for you guys.

 

When using the "MPEG-2 High Definition 720p" option on the "High Definition" menu to output from VW, the resultant file quality is excellent. The "render" is very quick as I believe it is just going through and throwing out every other scene to yield a file with a 30 fps. Take a look, appears to be just like the original (to me).

 

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/69...20720p%20SW.mpg

 

What I'm finding is that, with the exception of single m2ts files, MyDVD re-renders every type of video (from VW) that I throw at it. When it does this, it introduces the "jerkiness/uneven motion" that I've mentioned. This can be seen when I play the AVCHD DVD in my Blu-ray player.

 

I can't find an output type (from VW) that won't get re-rendered in MyDVD. Does anyone have any info on this? Is there any format that I can create with VW that won't get re-rendered? What are the specs of what it's rendering to when I use the "Same as Original" setting in MyDVD, does anyone know?

 

Thanks,

Steven

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Just to beat a dead horse. :o

Your camera will also do HD video at 30 fps. It is mjpeg format. The page you sent me to in your manual says:

 

Motion JPEG

1280 × 720 pixels / 848 x 480 pixels / 640×480 pixels / 320×240 pixels

( Only when using an SD Memory Card)

30 frames/second with stereo audio

 

Having posted that, mjpeg is not supported in this program although some people have reported that they heve been able to use that format. :P

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Have you tried rendering "up" to 1080 and selecting 2 pass encoding? Is that any better?

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I can't find an output type (from VW) that won't get re-rendered in MyDVD.
I think the issue is here is the format of the original file. Even if I put just one file in Videowave, it is still re-encoded. Using Media Info, your file is indeed 29.97 fps but has frames doubled. It appears to me that Videowave does not support frame doubled as an output format and therefore always re-encodes it. Even the audio is re-encoded so the output isn't even close to 'Same as original'.

 

I also see some of the colors 'vibrate' on a one second cycle like the brown surface when the girls walk by. This looks very bad on a large screen TV.

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Downloaded your files and my results are identical to yours.

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It is display related… I got my wife to look at it and she found that if you move your mouse around the screen when that file is playing, the pixels follow the mouse!

 

Unlike Gary, looked pretty good on larger TV with output set to 1080P.

 

And it falls back to your PC. As I stated before, I took the untouched file made an mp4 with it (same as original) and created a MyDVD AVCHD project using the untouched and my mp4 and it comes out without this problem…

 

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Not display related here. I don't have to move my mouse. There is a definitely ONE SEC cycle with the pixels jumping or vibrating in his first file. My 42" monitor is always at 1080p and the vibrating pixels are noticeable from across the room. I get the exact same thing when I output the original file using VW. In fact, I have seen this same issue since V8 off and on with different computers and different video cards. This is one of the many reasons I stopped using Videowave completely. Videowave is too inconsistent when it comes to output. Sometimes MyDVD won't smart render output from Videowave for me and IMHO, it should 100% of the time.

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Not display related here. I don't have to move my mouse. There is a definitely ONE SEC cycle with the pixels jumping or vibrating in his first file. My 42" monitor is always at 1080p and the vibrating pixels are noticeable from across the room. I get the exact same thing when I output the original file using VW. In fact, I have seen this same issue since V8 off and on with different computers and different video cards. This is one of the many reasons I stopped using Videowave completely. Videowave is too inconsistent when it comes to output. Sometimes MyDVD won't smart render output from Videowave for me and IMHO, it should 100% of the time.

You have to download the original m2ts file (…_121240.m2ts) in post 9 and run it.

 

saculver is having trouble viewing that one or doing anything with it. It follows that if he created a file from that one, his problems would follow with it!

 

Only the one he created from it, has had problems. With that one, do the mouse test and see what I mentioned. If the problem follows the mouse cursor, that is a hardware problem…

 

I have run the original file on both of my PCs, in Win7 and XP as well as making an AVCHD with it as described in an earlier post and no problems.

 

I made a couple of screen caps, trying to get as close as I could to the same frame.

 

Remade file w/shimmer:

 

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Original file:

 

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I think the moral of the story is "Don't take videos with a digital still camera unless absolutely necessary! B) and then live with the results.

 

I added the first video to Pinnacle Studio 14 and saw the shimmering/jerkyness without doing any rendering. That program allows for a full screen play back of the video file. I then rendered it to several other formats. The shimmering/jerkyness stayed the same or got worse. The best was converting it to a 1440 by 1080 video format. Note there is no same as original option so everythng is converted. I even converted it to standard definition and saw the same thing.

 

Suggestion. There are several suppliers of video editing software; many with free trial versions. Try some of those and buy one that works for you.

 

Did your camera come with software and have you tried that?

 

 

 

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