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I use Drag2Disk because my Second Copy backup software requires packet writing. I can read the files on the drive that created the DVD but not on any other drive. They report 4GB used but no files are visible in explorer. I have exited using "make compatible" and even tried finalizing the disk to no avail. The UDF reader doesn't help either.

 

Any suggestions on what I can try next would be greatly appreciated.

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I use Drag2Disk because my Second Copy backup software requires packet writing. I can read the files on the drive that created the DVD but not on any other drive. They report 4GB used but no files are visible in explorer. I have exited using "make compatible" and even tried finalizing the disk to no avail. The UDF reader doesn't help either.

 

Any suggestions on what I can try next would be greatly appreciated.

I'm very fuzzy about what is going on here.

 

There are no clues about what Opearting System is involved (are they the same on the different computers?), or if you are trying to transfer files, or trying to permantly lose the data (which all Packet-Writing - including but not limited to Drag2Disc, Nero's InCD, Sonic's DLA - is excellent at), or much of anything else.

 

And I've not heard of Second Copy, so can't speak to that, either.

 

However if I wanted to save data, I would (and do) burn it to R media with a sessions-based program such as Classic Creator.

 

RW media will also lose your data for you - if combined with Packet-Writing (such as Drag2Disc), it will lose the data faster.

 

Lynn

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Lou: If you used encryption during the backup, you will have to have the Second Copy program to make the files readable.

 

I suspect that the drives that cannot view the files are older DVD-ROM drives. If those drives are about 3 years old or older they may not be able to read DVD RW media.

 

If they are on XP systems, the Reader software should not be installed as XP already has a Reader built into the OS.

 

Otherwise, with XP and newer DVD-ROM drives or DVD Burner drives, the discs should be readable.

 

You may want to contact Second Chance about this too.

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I listened to the advice and decided to try Creator instead of D2D to see if the resulting DVD was readable in all drives.

The disk looked like it was being written correctly but there were major problems even on the drive it was written on!

File and directory names are present but they have 0 bytes. Some files are there but generally one level down in a directory is 0 bytes. Other drives on other systems can read the DVD but they show the same result.

Is this a Roxio or a drive issue? The drive is a Philips DVD+-RW DVD 8701 in a new Dell Precision 380 running Win XP Pro.

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If you are using Classic you will have to set your Project Properties for the File System to UDF, No Bridge and turn off Validate.

 

You were using Joliet which was written for Win9/NT and does not work well with the verbose pathname/filenames of XP.

 

These settings did not solve the problem. I still get zero byte files.

 

Here is more information:

1. Help/about reported version 6.0.0.171. I downloaded and installed the latest upgrade but help still reports 6.0.0.171. If I try to reinstall the upgrade it says I am already at the latest configuration.

2. I can perform a disk copy with a CD but not with a DVD. With a DVD the source disk cache completes but as soon as recording starts a "invalid field in parameter list" message appears.

3. I went to DVD-RW to save disks. I have a disk which Roxio says "drive in use by Roxio drag to disk kernel". How do I clear this? Is this related to my problems?

 

Sorry to be such a bother. Should I give up on Roxio? I was going to upgrade to 8.0 but I am hesitating due to 6.0 not working on my system.

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These settings did not solve the problem. I still get zero byte files.

 

Here is more information:

1. Help/about reported version 6.0.0.171. I downloaded and installed the latest upgrade but help still reports 6.0.0.171. If I try to reinstall the upgrade it says I am already at the latest configuration.

2. I can perform a disk copy with a CD but not with a DVD. With a DVD the source disk cache completes but as soon as recording starts a "invalid field in parameter list" message appears.

3. I went to DVD-RW to save disks. I have a disk which Roxio says "drive in use by Roxio drag to disk kernel". How do I clear this? Is this related to my problems?

 

Sorry to be such a bother. Should I give up on Roxio? I was going to upgrade to 8.0 but I am hesitating due to 6.0 not working on my system.

Ah ha! You have formatted the disc!! Be advised that the primary use of formatted discs is for permantly losing data. It will lose the data faster when RW media is used.

 

To format a RW disc does NOT result in a "great-big floppy-disc". RW media will burn exactly the same as R media, and if a file is deleted you don't get the space back until you erase the ENTIRE discs. True, formatting it for Packet-Writing will give something that acts like a floppy until it fails (which is normally before a DVD/RW is filled), but as mentioned, Packet-Writing is NOT a safe way to do backups.

 

If you use R media (or for that matter, if you use RW media), and don't have it marked to close the disc, it should be possible to add files subsequently. Use it with a BLANK blank, directly out of the package or off the spindle. If you format the disc, then only the formatting program can use it (and different programs use different methods of formatting, so they aren't compatible between manufacturers and sometimes even between versions - unlike a real floppy disc.)

 

There are no clues about what drive you have, but some drives don't work with DVD plus and some don't work with DVD dash - and some don't work with DVDs at all.

 

I think that's the next thing to be checked. If you don't know how to find the drive id string, check the FREQUENT ANSWERS post pinned to the top of the board.

 

Lynn

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Things are getting a little mixed up here in that we are talking about 3 separate programs…

 

Disc Copier will copy a disc as long as it has not been formatted for packet writing (D2D). It copies the disc exactly the same way it finds it.

 

The settings I mentioned are the only thing that will work in Classic if you are having trouble with Zero byte files. I think it works in all versions but I don't have the original version anymore.

 

I suggest these steps:

 

Scan your PC for any virus/spyware. These can cause burning problems.

 

Make sure you have your V6 CD as well as the downloaded update. Make sure the update is the right one, there are 2!!! One for Basic and one for Platinum (retail).

 

Download Roxizap, here.

 

Check for any firmware updates for your burner and apply them.

 

From Control Panel, remove all of V6. Reboot.

 

Run Roxizap twice, rebooting after each run.

 

Install your V6, reboot and run the update.

 

Using RW media, not formatted or erased if it was, open Classic and copy some files to both CD and DVD media using the settings I mentioned.

 

Eject them and then read them with Windows Explorer.

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Things are getting a little mixed up here in that we are talking about 3 separate programs…

 

Disc Copier will copy a disc as long as it has not been formatted for packet writing (D2D). It copies the disc exactly the same way it finds it.

 

The settings I mentioned are the only thing that will work in Classic if you are having trouble with Zero byte files. I think it works in all versions but I don't have the original version anymore.

 

I suggest these steps:

 

Scan your PC for any virus/spyware. These can cause burning problems.

 

Make sure you have your V6 CD as well as the downloaded update. Make sure the update is the right one, there are 2!!! One for Basic and one for Platinum (retail).

 

Download Roxizap, here.

 

Check for any firmware updates for your burner and apply them.

 

From Control Panel, remove all of V6. Reboot.

 

Run Roxizap twice, rebooting after each run.

 

Install your V6, reboot and run the update.

 

Using RW media, not formatted or erased if it was, open Classic and copy some files to both CD and DVD media using the settings I mentioned.

 

Eject them and then read them with Windows Explorer.

 

 

I have had a major success but a problem remains. I followed your advice and I now can write DVD's using Creator!

However, disk copy still does not work. The cache process completes but when writing starts an "invalid field in parameter list" error message appears and the process ends.

I have two drives, a DVD-ROM and a DVD burner. Before the burn starts they both report properly- the ROM shows the source and the burner shows a blank DVD+R.

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I have had a major success but a problem remains. I followed your advice and I now can write DVD's using Creator!

However, disk copy still does not work. The cache process completes but when writing starts an "invalid field in parameter list" error message appears and the process ends.

I have two drives, a DVD-ROM and a DVD burner. Before the burn starts they both report properly- the ROM shows the source and the burner shows a blank DVD+R.

 

Try using the Burner as both the Source and the Destination. That will keep the DVD-ROM drive out of the process.

 

A variation would be to copy to file, then burn the file as a separate step. Of course this shouldn't be necessary but see if this will eliminate the error message.

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Try using the Burner as both the Source and the Destination. That will keep the DVD-ROM drive out of the process.

 

A variation would be to copy to file, then burn the file as a separate step. Of course this shouldn't be necessary but see if this will eliminate the error message.

 

 

Using the burner as both Source and Destination did not work. The system asked for a blank disk and when the disk was available the "Invalid Field in Parameter List" error appeared immediately.

 

Copying to an ISO file and then burning did work! I'd hate to have to do this since I installed two drives to facilitate disk-to-disk copying.

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Frankly I am out of ideas…

 

The message you receive is issued from your burner. Normally a firmware update will fix such things.

 

I have made suggestions that you do the scans for virus/spyware and check-update your video card drivers and burner firmware.

 

You have not indicted that you done any of these things. You seem to keep trying something a little different in the hope it will somehow work this time. Without taking all of the suggested steps, I can assure you it is never going to work.

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Using the burner as both Source and Destination did not work. The system asked for a blank disk and when the disk was available the "Invalid Field in Parameter List" error appeared immediately.

 

Copying to an ISO file and then burning did work! I'd hate to have to do this since I installed two drives to facilitate disk-to-disk copying.

When I had ECDC 4, I could copy from the CD-ROM to the CD-RW @ 4x.

When I had Version 6, the CD-ROM could only pick it up at 1x.

When I subsequently had ECDC 5, I could again copy from the CD-ROM to the CD-W @ 4x.

 

That may or may not be relevant, but it is possisble. (Neither drive is particularly new.)

 

Uh ... I assume you aren't mixing DVD plus and DVD dash ...

 

Lynn

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I don't mean to butt in on this conversation but are you sure that you are finalizing the disc you are trying to copy?Disc Copier won't copy a disc that isn't finalized,I believe.I looked up the error in the knowledge base and it looks like you guys (and gal) have tried most of the things it talked about.

What I did notice is you were talking about using CC with an open session like D2D.Doing this would leave the disc unfinalized,thus stopping Disc Copier from copying it.

Sorry if I'm just blowing smoke here.It was just a thought.

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Frankly I am out of ideas…

 

The message you receive is issued from your burner. Normally a firmware update will fix such things.

 

I have made suggestions that you do the scans for virus/spyware and check-update your video card drivers and burner firmware.

 

You have not indicted that you done any of these things. You seem to keep trying something a little different in the hope it will somehow work this time. Without taking all of the suggested steps, I can assure you it is never going to work.

 

I'm sorry I neglected to mention that I have been doing everything you have suggested including a virus/spyware scan and firmware updates. I thank you for your suggestions and they have gotten me to a state where I can at least make disk copies. If you are out of ideas do you have any suggestions for my next step?

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Lou: Thanks for the updated info.

 

Terry, you are always welcome to chime in! As is Lynn or anyone who can contribute something.

 

If the source is a Data Disc written with Session, V6 Disc Copier will copy it without a hitch. – just tried it with an Session CD-R in my DVD-ROM, writing to a CD-RW in my burner. No problem

 

Note that DC does Finalize the copy whereas the source was left appendable.

 

Of course none of the version will copy a D2D disc.

 

If I am understanding Lou, he cannot copy Drive to Drive but can copy Drive to HD (iso) then burn the ISO.

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I don't have V6 installed any more.Does it have a Raw mode in the advanced options when burn is initiated?If so that may be another thing to try.

 

Yes there is RAW under the Options drop down. However it is limited to Single Session discs and cautions that both drives must support Raw Mode.

 

It also cautions that it should be used as a last resort as the copy may not work correctly.

 

So maybe this is something Lou should check and turn Off if it was what he was using…

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