Better encoding with DVD It 6?

[RonCz]

I currently use Creator 2010, I'm thinking of purchasing DVDit 6 Pro with the expectation I would get better burns that work in more DVD players. I wonder if the compression would be better or the quality of encoding would be better or that the disc would play more widely.

 

also what makes a better burn? the software? the burner? Can you get good burns with consumer DVD burners? Remember I'm not thinking HD at this time.

 

 

[sknis]

I currently use Creator 2010, I'm thinking of purchasing DVDit 6 Pro with the expectation I would get better burns that work in more DVD players. I wonder if the compression would be better or the quality of encoding would be better or that the disc would play more widely.

 

also what makes a better burn? the software? the burner? Can you get good burns with consumer DVD burners? Remember I'm not thinking HD at this time.

 

Save your money for Taiyo Yuden brand DVDs. They will be the easiest, less expensive upgrade.

 

Compression? Do you mean encoding or trying to compress more than 1 hour of video on a DVD? When you make your projects, are you using the two step process of making an Image (ISO) file or folder set and then copying that to a DVD?

 

What are your computer specs?

[RonCz]

Save your money for Taiyo Yuden brand DVDs. They will be the easiest, less expensive upgrade.

 

Compression? Do you mean encoding or trying to compress more than 1 hour of video on a DVD? When you make your projects, are you using the two step process of making an Image (ISO) file or folder set and then copying that to a DVD?

 

What are your computer specs?

Well not concerned about the Media I will buy the best I'm concerned about software. Does DVDit 6 make a better burn then Creator 2010?

 

1. Is The video quality improved or better then creator 2010? Such as better Mpeg 2 encoding?

 

2. Can DVDit 6 compress video better then Creator? put more video on disc. or are all burning software (nero, sony etc) all the same?

 

Yes I do follow the two step process, burning .iso first

 

 

 

AMD athond 64 processor (running 32 bit)

3200+

2.0 GHz

2 GB Ram

OS: XP Home sp 3

 

Graphics

Radeon X550

256 RAM

[Jim_Hardin]

You "questions" indicate little understanding of what is going on…

 

Good Media burned with a Good Burner makes Good Discs!

 

No Codec or software in the world can make up for Poor media or a Poor burner

 

Commercial DVD's are NOT burned! They are pressed and that is why they work better.

 

DVDit Pro is a disc authoring software. It does not even have an editor and strictly makes Menus and burns them to disc with pre-edited files.

 

Why don't you read through the Forums and see what goes on with that software.

 

[RonCz]

What I take from your answer is that:

1. The burner is more important then the software.

2. Not sure about encoding, I guess your answer is, “it’s no different then Creator 2010?”

3. Both programs (Creator & DVDit Pro) will compress video the same.

3. DVDit Pro is just a menu and burner which is exactly what I’m after as I edit in other programs not video wave.

 

What do you mean by “Good burner” and “Poor Burner”? Are you talking the difference between $50 Best buy versus a Sony DRU-720a or Plextor PX-716A?

 

[sknis]

$500 just to make menus? I have DVDiT Pro and don't use it because I can use or make the menu styles in Edit DVD, DVD Builder, My DVD or other to my liking.

 

DVD it Pro is more professional than consumer and will allow you to do a lot more complex menu navigation. For the general consumer public. Creator 2010 or one of the feature removed version is good enough for most people.

[RonCz]

Getting back to my original question does DVDit Pro provide a better burn (then Creator 2010) that plays in more DVD players?

 

According to Roxio sales engineer Anna Marie after checking with a co worker the answer is yes. By choosing the best quality on DVDit 6 the optimization that DVDit pro provides is superior to Creator 2010. When pressed why she did not know.

 

I’m not concerned about bells and whistles.

 

[firenhancer]

Getting back to my original question does DVDit Pro provide a better burn (then Creator 2010) that plays in more DVD players?

 

According to Roxio sales engineer Anna Marie after checking with a co worker the answer is yes. By choosing the best quality on DVDit 6 the optimization that DVDit pro provides is superior to Creator 2010. When pressed why she did not know.

 

I’m not concerned about bells and whistles.

 

Simple answer is DVDitPro is much superior and is pro DVD authoring product ONLY using pro coders and is used to output video content for pressed glass masters in addition to regular DVD content, unlike Roxio Creator Suite which has plethora of modules/functions. As far as looking at the compatibility of being able to play in more DVD players, almost all products in the industry that offer functions to create DVD Video follow industry spec for DVD Video creation. However, one cannot guarantee the playback failure due to cheap or flawed media use to output.

[d_deweywright]

Getting back to my original question does DVDit Pro provide a better burn (then Creator 2010) that plays in more DVD players?

 

According to Roxio sales engineer Anna Marie after checking with a co worker the answer is yes. By choosing the best quality on DVDit 6 the optimization that DVDit pro provides is superior to Creator 2010. When pressed why she did not know.

 

I’m not concerned about bells and whistles.

When you say, "better burn", that implies the how well the disc has been written physically. That is controlled by the burner, not the software.

 

As for what the sales person told you, that would be the encoding part of the equation, which would be reflected in the image quality on the screen, pixelization during fast movement and the like. That all happens before you get to physically writing the disc.

 

These two items are not so tightly related. Whether or not the disc can be read is determined by the burner, the media, and the player. Counter-intuitively, the more expensive players often have more trouble reading burned discs than the cheap, $30 Wal-mart/KMart/Sam's Club specials! If the disc is readable on the player, then the quality of the image is determined by the encoding. If it's not readable, then a different brand of media may solve the problem, or going from DVD-R to DVD+R (or vice versa) may be the solution.

 

So, DVDit may do a better job encoding, I can't say. But if you are editing in another application, and using that program to render to DVD compatible bit rates, to a final size that will fit onto a DVD, then it's your editor that may determine the final encoding quality. (Not burn quality.) At least Creator 2010 and MyDVD will usually 'smart render' and use your file as-is in that case. (I don't know about DVDit.)

 

Does that help at all?

[RonCz]

If the disc is readable on the player, then the quality of the image is determined by the encoding.

 

So, DVDit may do a better job encoding, I can't say. But if you are editing in another application, and using that program to render to DVD compatible bit rates, to a final size that will fit onto a DVD, then it's your editor that may determine the final encoding quality.

 

Simple answer is DVDitPro is much superior and is pro DVD authoring product ONLY using pro coders and is used to output video content for pressed glass masters in addition to regular DVD content, unlike Roxio Creator Suite which has plethora of modules/functions.

 

Thanks for answering my question right on, it seems the sales agent was trying to explain all this. DVDit seems to in the end provide a more quality finished product.

 

What started all this is when I presented a finish DVD to my sister who claimed the last menu button did not work. Although it worked in other DVD players hers would not load the last menu. She did have a ten year old symphonic DVD player.

I just wanted to make sure I provide the best possible disc media, burned on a good burner with the best encoding I can provide, the rest is up to the customer.

[d_deweywright]

Thanks for answering my question right on, it seems the sales agent was trying to explain all this. DVDit seems to in the end provide a more quality finished product.

 

What started all this is when I presented a finish DVD to my sister who claimed the last menu button did not work. Although it worked in other DVD players hers would not load the last menu. She did have a ten year old symphonic DVD player.

I just wanted to make sure I provide the best possible disc media, burned on a good burner with the best encoding I can provide, the rest is up to the customer.

Yes. Be prepared, however, to offer the customer another disc using +(plus) or -(dash) media if the first choice doesn't work.

[Jim_Hardin]

Yes. Be prepared, however, to offer the customer another disc using +(plus) or -(dash) media if the first choice doesn't work.

You were probably using 'plus' media and a Player that old most likely requires the bit setting to be changed to DVD-ROM for 'plus' media…

 

That is a switch that is turned off or on in your burner but no Roxio/Sonic program addresses it.

 

[cdanteek]

Thanks for answering my question right on, it seems the sales agent was trying to explain all this. DVDit seems to in the end provide a more quality finished product.

 

What started all this is when I presented a finish DVD to my sister who claimed the last menu button did not work. Although it worked in other DVD players hers would not load the last menu. She did have a ten year old symphonic DVD player.

I just wanted to make sure I provide the best possible disc media, burned on a good burner with the best encoding I can provide, the rest is up to the customer.

 

 

If the disc played fine up to "the last menu button did not work". It's not a "bit setting to be changed to DVD-ROM for 'plus' media" problem!

 

Use a free trial of DVDInfo Pro (Google for download) or Opti Drive Control (#3 in my signature) and check the disc for read errors. If none are found it's the soiftware or something used in that project...

 

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[RonCz]

Well again thanks for all the help as it turned out, none of my authored copies I tried played all the way through on the symphonic player, including a version I broke in split in order to get high quality, so I had a part one and part two; however when we put the same disc in a newer player it played well. The same disc played fine in my laptop, and my home computer and DVD player.

 

I like Hardin's idea about "bit setting to be changed to DVD-ROM for 'plus' media" I guess it's just the player. I tell people to try it out on someone else's player to make sure it's not the disc.

 

One other problem I notice when I give a disc to someone to try, they put it in the same player that the kids use to play their dirty, sticky, scratched disc in so that the laser heads are out of alignment.

 

[cdanteek]

Well again thanks for all the help as it turned out, none of my authored copies I tried played all the way through on the symphonic player, including a version I broke in split in order to get high quality, so I had a part one and part two; however when we put the same disc in a newer player it played well. The same disc played fine in my laptop, and my home computer and DVD player.

 

I like Hardin's idea about "bit setting to be changed to DVD-ROM for 'plus' media" I guess it's just the player. I tell people to try it out on someone else's player to make sure it's not the disc.

 

One other problem I notice when I give a disc to someone to try, they put it in the same player that the kids use to play their dirty, sticky, scratched disc in so that the laser heads are out of alignment.

 

 

Do you think laser heads ride around on a DVD like a Long Playing Record Needle carving it's way through 'the kids dirty, sticky, scratched disc in so that the laser heads are out of alignment'?

 

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[Brendon]

I like Hardin's idea about "bit setting to be changed to DVD-ROM for 'plus' media" I guess it's just the player. I tell people to try it out on someone else's player to make sure it's not the disc.

That idea's not quite right. Almost, but no cigar. It sounds as if there's something inferior about DVD plus discs.

 

Many of your older players were designed to accept only DVD-ROM discs, the pressed silver discs you get commercially. DVDs have a flag which shows the 'booktype' to the player, and these old players may not react well to other types of discs such as DVD-R or DVD+R etc.

 

DVD plus media have the added advantage that a burner can change the booktype they show. Unlike DVD dash media, you can change the booktype on the disc to show DVD-ROM, and that enhances the compatibility of these discs in the old players.